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VGA to HDMI possible?
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durks
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14. May 2007 @ 06:18 |
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Interesting thread.
But my problem is the opposite way round.
I think my question was answered previously, but things seem to have become a bit muddled, and left me in a more confused state than before.
I have a Toshiba 42WP46 that is HD compatible but has no HDMI input port and a Cable TV Drive with HDMI out, but am forced to use scart to connect the 2.
Is there any way to go from HDMI to either VGA or RGB without it costing megga bucks.
Im not too fussed about pure HD images, but cable from scart on a plasma is terrible to behold.
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Durks
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taltamir
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24. June 2007 @ 15:38 |
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lots of people here are spewing HDMI-HDCP propaganda crap...
HDMI is really not that good, in fact, you are probably going to get a better signal with DVI or simply component.
As for WHY would someone want to make the conversion... its because most laptops have a VGA and MAYBE S-Video outputs... S-video provides for crap resolution. So being able to take the VGA and somehow plug it in to your shiny new HDTV would be a really nice thing. (it eliminates the need to build a dedicated HTPC for 700$, or buy one for 2000$+)
In fact, I found this thread for exactly this very reason! I was looking for some way to plug VGA to HDTV. I found out that they make VGA to Component cables... but they do NOT work with PC output, it requires component over VGA (which apparently some retarded devices use for some reason). Sometimes I think the electronics giants are pushing crap like that intentionally to spite us. I mean, HDCP? A digital signal over DVI / HDMI that does NOT have error correction / transmission verification?
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E_Zmoke
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8. July 2007 @ 15:09 |
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WOW !!! Call me confused, can somebody please re-explain this in English, I'm so lost...I just bought a new 50" LCD HDTV 1080p, It has HDMI imputs on the tv, and everything else but no VGA imput, I simply want to hook up my computer to the TV, my computer has no other outputs except VGA. Should I brake down and spend the $400 on a convertor to HDMI ? Can I just buy a VGA to HDMI crossover connector and HDMI cables and plug it in ? Which is the best way to go about hooking my computer into my TV and still having a clear picture ? What about sound ? If I hook up via VGA then I have no Sound ? And is their a way to hook up my computer to my house stereo? WHY CAN'T THEY JUST MAKE ONE CABLE TO PLUG INTO EVERYTHING ? or is that what HDMI is supposed to do ? Another option I was thinking about was a New Graphics card that has an HDMI output on the back of the PCI slot ??? LOST and confused, just want electronics to be simple...thanks
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mystero
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9. July 2007 @ 05:37 |
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very interesting and cheap VGA, YPrPb , CV, Sv to HDMI 1080p converter you can find under www.rosato-solutions.com
contact:rosatost@tin.it for prices
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taltamir
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9. July 2007 @ 17:50 |
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I finally found it out! there IS a way to properly connect an HDTV to a computer...
Look at your video card, good chance it has an "s-video" plug... well look again. In most new gen video cards (geforce 7 and 8 for example) this isn't an s-video plug, but a VERY similar look special plug into which you connect a splitter that splits it to component and s-video outputs... connect THAT to your HDTV.
Basically nvidia and ATI each have different schemes to connect TVs, using various proprietary adapters that are unique to each video card line. Look up the one that fits your specific video card!
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video4531
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10. July 2007 @ 19:38 |
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no advertising unless you pay for it. edited by ddp
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 12. July 2007 @ 08:12
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taltamir
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11. July 2007 @ 17:29 |
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Great, spam!
Great idea, get a VGA to HDMI converter box for hundreds of dollars... I have a BETTER idea. Upgrade to a cheap GeForce7/8 card that has HD out via component and it will cost you less, and have the benefit of a more powerful video card.
The important thing is to realise it is not important to go from VGA to HDMI, but rather, go from you COMPUTER to you TV. With that in mind a much better route of a video card's component out to HDTV becomes the ideal connection. (or DVI to DVI if your TV has DVI input)
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taltamir
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11. July 2007 @ 17:40 |
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ugh, cant update my post... anyways, I just noticed that the spammer is advertising a box that can convert a computer signal to HDMI.... at max resolution of 800*600! Thats just sad, thats not even 720p! why would you WANT to even convert it if its not the actual resolution... at that res you might aswell just plug it through S-Video
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video4531
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11. July 2007 @ 18:06 |
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no advertising unless you pay for it. edited by ddp
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video4531
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11. July 2007 @ 18:14 |
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no advertising unless you pay for it. edited by ddp
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ddp
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12. July 2007 @ 08:15 |
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conver453
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15. July 2007 @ 21:48 |
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vga to hdmi is possible by this conversion box
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E_Zmoke
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16. July 2007 @ 20:40 |
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Thank you Moderator for Deleting all this Spam, so far I think The Graphics Card w HDMI output on back of card is best scenario...is it really the way to go ?? Can anyone tell me please without putting up spam and trying to get me to buy their junk >? I really just would like to hook up my Comp to my TV and have it look good. I understand it isn't going to Transmit in full 1080P
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taltamir
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19. July 2007 @ 19:27 |
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I already replied. Through much research I found out that the only PROPER way to connect a video card to an HDTV is in one of two manners:
1. Have a DVI input on HDTV for DVI output from the computer.
2. Get a video card from at least the last two generations (geforce 8 or geforce 7600 or higher, 7300 does NOT have it. Also newer ATI cards have that aswell). All those video cards have a special "HDTV" port which LOOKS like S-Video at a glance but has DIFFERENT pins. You plug in a splitter that splits it into Component out.
Many experts actually claim that despite component being analogue it is actually of superior quality to DVI and HDMI! Due to many reasons such as the fact that DVI and HDMI transfer a "digital signal" in an analogue manner, without error correction or detection (CRC, TCP/IP, etc, etc. Nothing is used), with possible copy protection, and with lossy conversion between one digital format to another. Resulting in potentially inferior quality to that of component, while generating a lot of marketing buzz.
For example, the max length of a DVI/hdmi cable before corruption is noticed is usually 10 feet, while component can go for 100 - 150 ft. And optical audio... well... better.
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trifecor
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21. July 2007 @ 15:46 |
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Ok. I'm slightly confused. My new HDTV has a VGA port, but my computer has no VGA port. Wow I cant remember what it's called. Instead of being blue, the tip of the cables are white. DVI maybe? Well, whatever it is, my TV only has VGA. I was kind of amazed that my PC had not VGA but i'm not reall that amazed. I have a 8800gfx with 2 DVIs (as far as I know). Is there anyway I can connect my PC to the HDTV?
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taltamir
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22. July 2007 @ 19:26 |
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Originally posted by trifecor:
Ok. I'm slightly confused. My new HDTV has a VGA port, but my computer has no VGA port. Wow I cant remember what it's called. Instead of being blue, the tip of the cables are white. DVI maybe? Well, whatever it is, my TV only has VGA. I was kind of amazed that my PC had not VGA but i'm not reall that amazed. I have a 8800gfx with 2 DVIs (as far as I know). Is there anyway I can connect my PC to the HDTV?
Use a DVI (white plug) to VGA (blue plug) adapter (~10$ online) and connect your DVI video card to your VGA port on the TV. Alternatively, a Geforce 8 card like yours has the HDTV out, a cable to connect it to component (green, red,blue cables) should have came with your video card.
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lakerdude
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23. July 2007 @ 07:55 |
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Hi,
I have a 1st Generation Mits HDTV. The ONLY way it can receive a HDTV Signal is thru the RGB Connection on the back of the TV. (Actually, I had to buy a VGA Cable with BNC Connectors on one end, that are RGBHV to get my HD Signal) Id like to upgrade to Direct's new HD Receiver, but it only has HDMI, or Component HD access. So I need to go from VGA to HDMI imput to the TV. Will this Startech VGA to Hdmi do the job? Thanks for any help...
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durks
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24. July 2007 @ 04:11 |
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Arghhhh,,,
Still no luck in finding a way to go from the HDMI output on my cable box to my supposedly HDTV compatible TV that only has VGA, component and scart.
Can anyone help and recommend something that doesnt cost mega bucks that allow me to connect the HDMI out of the cable box to the VGA of the TV.
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Durx
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ipmark
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1. August 2007 @ 06:30 |
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I've been ripping my hair out trying to solve this too. Here's my prob:
I'm trying to put together an HTPC. I have a panasonic lcd projection tv with a native 720p resolution that will accept vga, but only standard vga resolutions. The closest vga resolution is XGA which is 1280x768 and the tv compensates by compressing everything vertically. I can still see everything, but its not sharp like a real 720p output should be.
Unfortunately I picked up an HP s7600n for a great price but it only has VGA out and its so small that it only has 1 pci slot and a 108watt power supply so adding a video card is out of the question.
This chipset is supposed to support component out, but it must be disabled or something on this motherboard because I tried plugging directly into the tv with a vga-to-component cable and the picture is purple and skewed.
I'm pretty much ready to throw money at the problem at this point, I've wasted the better part of a week researching this. Does anyone know or has anyone tried the converters that are available? I'm leaning towards the Startech vga-with-sound to hdmi converter box, but I'm wary of jumping in if I can't get confirmation that I'm going to get perfectly crisp everything if I output at my tv's native 720p resolution.
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durks
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2. August 2007 @ 01:28 |
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Ipmark,
I'm leaning towards the same ting from Startek, but i am unable to get a definitive price.
just mail them again for a cost,, lets see if they reply this time.
Keep posted on how it goes.
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ipmark
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2. August 2007 @ 04:53 |
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I just won one on ebay for $101. I'll post again when I receive it.
Cheers!
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taltamir
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5. August 2007 @ 03:55 |
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Originally posted by ipmark:
I've been ripping my hair out trying to solve this too. Here's my prob:
I'm trying to put together an HTPC. I have a panasonic lcd projection tv with a native 720p resolution that will accept vga, but only standard vga resolutions. The closest vga resolution is XGA which is 1280x768 and the tv compensates by compressing everything vertically. I can still see everything, but its not sharp like a real 720p output should be.
Unfortunately I picked up an HP s7600n for a great price but it only has VGA out and its so small that it only has 1 pci slot and a 108watt power supply so adding a video card is out of the question.
This chipset is supposed to support component out, but it must be disabled or something on this motherboard because I tried plugging directly into the tv with a vga-to-component cable and the picture is purple and skewed.
I'm pretty much ready to throw money at the problem at this point, I've wasted the better part of a week researching this. Does anyone know or has anyone tried the converters that are available? I'm leaning towards the Startech vga-with-sound to hdmi converter box, but I'm wary of jumping in if I can't get confirmation that I'm going to get perfectly crisp everything if I output at my tv's native 720p resolution.
On your HTPC, in windows, go to your driver menu, and set it to not scale your display (So that it will leave black bars on the top and bottom).
Actually, what you should do is just set your computer to output XGA instead of 720p. And then you have an XGA desktop, with the movies that you play having a black bar.
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ipmark
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5. August 2007 @ 06:56 |
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Originally posted by taltamir:
On your HTPC, in windows, go to your driver menu, and set it to not scale your display (So that it will leave black bars on the top and bottom).
Actually, what you should do is just set your computer to output XGA instead of 720p. And then you have an XGA desktop, with the movies that you play having a black bar.
Well, not sure what you mean by scale my display, I don't have a monitor hooked up to the HTPC at all... but the problem is on the TV side anyway. I currently have my screen set and outputting at XGA, but thats not my tv's native resolution (its native resolution is 720p, yet won't accept vga input at 720p) so it accepts the XGA then resamples it vertically into 720p which is where you get the slight blurriness and ratio distortion.
I should be back home in a couple days and able to try out the converter box.
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taltamir
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6. August 2007 @ 02:43 |
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Go to wikipedia and read what a driver is. Then find yours, and change the display scalaing.
The problem is probably with it. Not with the TV, or the monitor, or whatever it is.
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taltamir
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6. August 2007 @ 03:00 |
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you know what, now that you explained it more concisely... if your TV takes 720p then dont SEND it an XGA signal, doing so is silly.
Your computer is perfectly capable of using 720p resultion. Make sure you have the latest drivers, and then select the resultion 1280x720.
DO NOT select the resultion 1280x764. That would cause the problems and is completely pointless.
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