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Munich & Rumor Has It
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brobear
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11. May 2006 @ 16:53 |
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I found that when I had my Plex 740a, the booktype could be set but only for that app, it would not carry over to Clone or CopyToDVD.
Couldn't maintain booktype setting with a "certain" software.
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I ended up using DVDInfoPro and the settings did carry over automatically whether the DVDInfoPro was open or not.
But, could maintain booktype setting with DVDInfoPro.
Sounds like the problem was with the software and not the hardware. Which brings up another good question, what was the poor software that wouldn't properly set the booktype? Nero, Plextools, and DVDInfoPro, all, do the job for me. I haven't tried ImgBurn. Which brings the thought to mind that booktyping in CloneDVD 2 would just be adding a utility that should come with the drive. I forget which, but one of my drives had a retail version of DVDInfoPro included in the software bundle. All the manufacturers should throw in something along those lines.
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11. May 2006 @ 17:05 |
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@brobear
It would be nice if they did through that utility in with the drive. I could set the booktype setting in DVDDecrypter and Nero. However, it would work when in that application. If I closed it down and then used Clone/CopytoDVD it would not maintain the booktype setting. Personally, I think it was stupid of Plextor to put out a drive that carried their name, but would not work with PlexTools, and that it was a BenQ drive that would not work with QSuite because it was an OEM with it's own fw ver. If you bought a BenQ1640, which is the same drive as the Plex740, it works with QSuite fine.
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brobear
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11. May 2006 @ 17:22 |
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I don't normally recommend it, but if you are sure of the cross reference on the BenQ, why don't you flash it as a BenQ drive? If they have the same chipsets and other hardware, they can use the same firmware.
That is a strange situation though, irregardless of the app, when the booktype is set, the EPROM in the drive is supposed to remember it. Booktyping is a function of the drive, not the software; the software just toggles the feature on and off.
I agree with you on the AEC and deep analysis. CloneDVD 2 could probably benefit from those additional features.
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11. May 2006 @ 17:31 |
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It does not much matter on the 740 as I returned that one and got my internal Plex 716. It was a nice drive but if I had wanted a BenQ I would have gotten one. It was a Xmas present so it was no problem when I returned it. I just wish drive mfr would tell you up front what drive you are getting, rebadging is like some guessing game.
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brobear
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11. May 2006 @ 17:47 |
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I just wish drive mfr would tell you up front what drive you are getting, rebadging is like some guessing game.
Similar to buying DVD media.
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11. May 2006 @ 18:29 |
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Had a problem backing up Munich using Recode.
Opened movie & said file too big, so I ripped movie to HD w/ AnyDVD Ripper.
Then opened Recode to put movie onto disc, it still said file too big.
I was trying to burn it onto a DL Disc though ?
Well gave up using Recode & used CloneDVD w/ AnyDVD in the background
No problem using both.
Nero Recode is always my 1st option.
CloneDVD is always my 2nd.
Of course use AnyDVD w/ both apps.
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brobear
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11. May 2006 @ 19:18 |
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Then opened Recode to put movie onto disc, it still said file too big.
I was trying to burn it onto a DL Disc though ?
What was the size of your source? Did you remember to set the target size to DVD9? I noticed it's usually set to DVD5 unless changed.
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12. May 2006 @ 04:03 |
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Why are you using Recode to do a DL disc? It requires nothing more than AnyDVD and Decrypter in ISO read and write mode or duplicate it with Nero Xpress. Either way no recoding is needed.
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12. May 2006 @ 05:22 |
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I have to agree with garmoon, there is no need for Recode if you are doing a DL. Recode is for compressing, just the same a Shrink and Shrink is really not a good program to use on a DL backup anyway. Here is a thread where layer break is discussed using transcoding programs it is interesting, don't know how scientific but it makes sense.
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=172204&highlight=layer+break
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ericbee
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12. May 2006 @ 06:57 |
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I happened to choose recode for Munich because it allowed me to set the beginning and end points. I almost always go by way of SHRINK but, this time by using recode and eliminating all of the beginning crap and all of the ending credits, I removed over 20 minutes of unneccesary audio and video and as a result, my compression was around 70%, I dont remember exactly but, it increased significantly and it only took a few extra minutes to do.
Well worth it on movies over 2 hours.
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12. May 2006 @ 07:06 |
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I'm no expert, but some of those guys at CDFreaks know less than I do. They don't even have a clue about Video_TS folders and ISO images. ISO is merely a package for handling the files. It's also pretty much the universal burn format. Most apps will burn ISO and some will burn only that format. If you look in an ISO, you find the Video_TS folder with the accompanying IFO, BUP, and VOB files. With software that allows retaining the layer break, such as Shrink, you can process the files for burning to DL and set the burner software, such as Decrypter, not to automatically set the layer break. That way the layer break is retained in the source files. It's best not to be editing or messing around with the files, just bypass the copyright protection, process and burn. It's been working for me.
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brobear
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12. May 2006 @ 07:11 |
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I am away from home at the moment however; when I do arrive I will burn it to a Dual Layer rather than compressing it toooo much.
Eric
We were going by what you said before. If you're recording to DL, there is no need to edit. There's no compression with DL. If you're transcoding to DVD5, then the layer break has nothing to do with the transcode, you're going to single layer. With DL, just set the decryption software to remove the PUO(s). Then you can click by those adverts. With AnyDVD the app can set the navigation to take you to the menu or play the movie from the start.
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brobear
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12. May 2006 @ 07:20 |
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Arniebear
I forgot to mention it, but the other side of the coin is that Shrink can take out the layer break and DVD Decrypter in the ISO W settings can set what it considers the optimal position for the layer break on a DL.
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12. May 2006 @ 08:00 |
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I have had good luck using Decrypter iso read and write, Blindwrite just direct copy and CloneDVD for dual layer backups. I just do the whole disk why bother to edit since it all fits and if I am going to edit, it is usually just movie only and a single layer works for that. I did a dl of KK and a single with RB and both looked great. The search for the perfect backup can be all consuming. I just used to be happy with 321 Xcopy and thought it was the bomb. I have progressed in my tastes in quality, and get it as near to perfect as possible, but it is never going to be the original.
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12. May 2006 @ 08:53 |
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brobear
I did have it set to DVD-9 already.
So I just said forget it & used Clone DVD instead,of course w/ no problems.
I think AnyDVD still has some slight issues, when working w/ Recode in
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brobear
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12. May 2006 @ 14:05 |
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I think AnyDVD still has some slight issues, when working w/ Recode in the background.
Simple solution, use the ripper.
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13. May 2006 @ 12:54 |
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I did use the ripper & tried Recode to open file, then put onto disc.
Got the same message.
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brobear
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13. May 2006 @ 16:41 |
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Once the files are ripped to the HD by the AnyDVD ripper, you have a cleaned and compliant source. There's nothing I know of that any other software is going to do. If from a factory DVD, that source should be less than 8.5GB. The AnyDVD even processed for compliance. What is the file size of Munich that you have after doing the rip with AnyDVD? I asked the question before, will you supply that info now? I'm just curious what the Recode was saying was too large for a DVD9 (8.5GB) dual layer backup.
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