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TorrentSpy Accuses MPAA of Hiring Hacker
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article published on 25 May, 2006
The company behind popular Bittorrent search engine TorrentSpy has countersued the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA), alleging that it hired a hacker to infiltrate its' e-mail and trade secrets.
The suit alleges that the MPAA paid a man $15,000 to steal information from Valence Media, parent company of Torrentspy, of whom the MPAA has accused of helping copyright violators. ... [ read the full article ]
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26. May 2006 @ 10:04 |
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Thank you guys for the answers on ip tracing.
I read somewhere a while back, that you can spoof your ip, have a shell account, and a program that stops dns tracking.
I am just wondering if any of this is feasible, without paying to any anonymity ip based sites, and I am sure its been done before... I am just wondering how to do it from your pc at home. Any takers?
I think it should be a must to conceal our ip's, we don't know who is watching and why they are watching.
Is it even legal for them to trace your ip? That's what I've been wondering, that and being riddled with a many questions me seems...
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26. May 2006 @ 10:08 |
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@dunknrun
I have mixed feelings about what they did to you, technically speaking, you payed for Showcase, and have a legal right to view the show on the network. Therefore, if you download an episode that you missed on that network, than you have a legal right to catch up on that episode elsewhere, as long as it is inclusive on that channel...Right?
What I am saying is, you can watch a tv show on your television, but when it comes to your computer, that's illegal????
That's ridiculous, they are using scare tactics and intimidation, dictating where and only where you can and can't watch your show.
This has to stop.
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26. May 2006 @ 15:02 |
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The informant will "go missing" and will be given $500,000 by the MPAA to hide and keep his mouth shut. MPAA wins the frivolous lawsuit, Torrentspy gets shut down, whoopdedoo, tomorrow's another day.
It'll happen. Call me a cynic, but the idiots in Congress just don't seem to see why they should be stopping the stampede of anti-fair rights movements the MPAA are dishing out. It does indeed have to stop, but it's not going to, since why would the law be written against an organisation designed to protect it? I'm glad I'm not in the USA, mainly because of them, but I still protest...
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26. May 2006 @ 18:38 |
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@ducknrun,y is it illegal to download a tv show when u can legally record the show, tivo it etc? I dont see any difference from having the show on ur HDD than having it on a VHS or on a tivo.
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26. May 2006 @ 21:40 |
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@Sammoris
The U.S. is literally in a mess from top to bottom. AIPAC, and other significant lobbyists dictate U.S. policies and interests, laws are enacted to protect major corporations and other elite significants, the President never got elected yet he is still there and has a very shady history, the media is government controlled propaganda as a means to subvert free thinking outside the box of conformity, the Patriot Act robs people of their freedom (also enacted in Canada, so it pisses me off), and the list just goes on and on, on how many major and unattended problems the U.S. is facing...Lest I forget, the energy crisis, the huge deficit, the War in Iraq...ouf.
Anyways, back to the topic at hand, I think the MPAA hired a cracker and not a hacker, because hackers usually create or contribute something fruitful, and follow a strict code of ethics. Therefore, I believe he or she is some lowlife cracker, willing to earn a quick buck regardless of what is morally right and wrong.
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26. May 2006 @ 21:45 |
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hot_ice ,if its so bad here in the USA you can move your ass to iraq buddy!!! and see how you like it , another person thats bought the lies!! so lay off bashing the USA and keep on topic
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26. May 2006 @ 22:22 |
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A quick educated guess...hot ice lives in canada. And I believe that he IS on track. Small minded people have to deal with small issues. In the movie swordfish hugh jackman went to jail for corrupting a government program to read ISP providers emails...um, wake up. The UNpatriot act gives the government the LEGAL RIGHT to do what the MPAA paid a measly $15,000 grand for. Whether it be sheep or lemmings, the good people of the USA and CANADA are being screwed over by the government. If the MPAA were smart they would use the so called patriot act as a precident and could win. I hope not, because TorrentSpy, I believe, is the one thats been wronged...as we all have.
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27. May 2006 @ 07:09 |
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aabbccdd, No way I can keep on topic. That is one hot babe!
BTW. It's hard to disagree that Bush is one of the worst presidents we've ever had. His whopping 27% and falling approval rating sums it all up.
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27. May 2006 @ 07:22 |
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It seems to me that MPAA is wrong for stealing. Also TorrentSpy is an avenue for copyright violators, we all know that.
If TorrentSpy is right about the hacker, then they have a very strong case.
For MPAA's suit. The question is, is TorrenSpy's involvment in copyright downloading an illegal activity? This seems to be the big question. Much like Tiffany's suit against eBay. eBay is a vehicle for millions of fraudulent auctions, yet is eBay in the wrong under the law?
If Tiffanys and the MPAA wins their suits, it could set precedents that will literally change the online commerce world.
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27. May 2006 @ 07:23 |
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Let the flaming begin>which begats bannings. Politics not good at AD. Doesn't matter which side, you're gonna pi$$ someone off.
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27. May 2006 @ 07:28 |
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No politics here please.. stick to comments relevent to the news :-)
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27. May 2006 @ 07:29 |
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27. May 2006 @ 07:50 |
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"hot_ice ,if its so bad here in the USA you can move your ass to iraq buddy!!! and see how you like it , another person thats bought the lies!! so lay off bashing the USA and keep on topic"
Since the U.S. "remodeled" Iraq, I think you are more entitled to go there than I am. Besides, I wasn't bashing the U.S., I am very fond of the country and its people, I like to see justice everywhere, and I haven't lied, these are verifiable facts, just simply look them up.
In any event, back to the topic, without going on tangents, I would like to see if Torrentspy actually puts the hacker on the witness stand, and what would happen if his or her testimony were to be heard. However, the MPAA lawyers must be a force to be reckoned with, and noticing that copyright issues have become somewhat of an ubiquitous problem, its because mainly I believe MPAA can get away with anything it dishes out.
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27. May 2006 @ 11:34 |
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aabbccdd Chill out.
The Patriots Act has taken more rights away from us. As my elected brother said, "Anything that had to be called The Patriots Act, means it never should have been passed.
The other big fumble is the DCMA which took away our fair use of copyright material.
Now the rest of his post is his opinion. He is entitled to it. This is USA. IRAQ may be another Vietnam? I'm a Vet from that war so I think that allows me to at least question it. But this thread has everything to do with The Patriot Act and The DCMA, and freedom of speech. I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend your right to say it.
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27. May 2006 @ 12:29 |
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Its always nice to see a difference of opinions. I was simply arguing about freedom of speech and control. It seems as though organizations like the MPAA want to control its customers like puppets and pull all the strings, and from what the alleged accusations portend, I think they can.
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27. May 2006 @ 13:47 |
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ummmmm, so what was the original topic? Cause this is gettin out of hand.
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27. May 2006 @ 14:27 |
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TorrentSpy Accuses MPAA of Hiring Hacker was the original topic!
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30. May 2006 @ 03:29 |
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I guess the MPAA is above the law or at least they think so. They are pretty much like legal organized crime.
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30. May 2006 @ 09:11 |
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They like to think they are above the law, but in this country, they aren't!!! They should be brought to justice just like anybody else if they are found guilty. Look at the "probes" the government has put out against all the large corporations all across the country and at the number of people who are brought to justice everyday. Form the head of Enron to good old Martha Stewart, if there is a case, the wrong dooers hopefully will go down and and no matter how much money they have access to will still not be enough in the eyes of the law!!!
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30. May 2006 @ 11:51 |
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If only. "We have the law on our side". You'd be surprised, it won't be easy bringing down the xxAA as they haven't been already, people must have tried.
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30. May 2006 @ 20:50 |
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I', glad to see this, cause the host is not responable for the content that its users download, the users are. I hope the xxxx (dont respect them enough to use their initials) go to hell, this is such hypocrisy!!
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31. May 2006 @ 01:18 |
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Just use MAFIAA, and then maybe forget the last A. They brought it upon themselves.
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2. June 2006 @ 02:08 |
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Woo - hooo !!! If TorrentSpy wins this, it's just another score for the P2P/Torrent movement. Those greedy MPAA b*stards can go to HELL !!!! TorrentSpy .... U GUYS RULE !!!!
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2. June 2006 @ 07:31 |
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Mmm, they do indeed.
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2. June 2006 @ 16:40 |
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The Patriot Act only applies to investigations of potential subversives and, arguably, is political in nature.
Lets assume that person/company "X" is investigated using the Patriots Act... the information found, no matter how damaging in a civil law case, can only be used in a criminal case and, in the US at least, the criminal activity must be definable as "terrorism related". this term is generalized so they can go after those who fund them and support them by laundering that money or assist in hiding them, getting entry visas (like sponsoring and giving them a "job" and then not reporting their absence)some proof is needed that the one giving aid knew the perp likely was involved in terrorist activities but is much less proof than that which is needed to prove conspiracy.
without it one could say
"they just paid me $5000 a week to use my garage and I stayed away whenever those six Muslim extremists friends of his came to have long meetings"
and thus not be a part of the conspiracy... but I worded that with a bunch of clues that a patriot should question and thus tip off law enforcement.... if only anonymously
If that person "X" has nothing to do with terrorism, but turns out to be selling 200,000 illegal movies a week... all evidence collected via the Patriots Act will need to be destroyed... and if any of that evidence came into the MPAA's hands then it would be thrown out as tainted fruit AND since the MPAA tried to use it, anything gotten vie it would also be banned. so if a helpful agent DID send that info to someone they would be better off to throw it away and then concentrate on legally collecting it (or similar info)
But hiring a hacker (or cracker) is illegal because it is a conspiracy to break the law. the MPAA officials that knew about this should all be held accountable just as I would be held accountable if I had paid someone to illegally copy a movie.
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