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dkruskie
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28. December 2006 @ 07:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
meatwagon-I sent you a pm with my email for that pdf too :)

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alias84
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28. December 2006 @ 07:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Can you please upload that pdf to one of those free file-hosting servers for everyone else?

Thanks!
meatwagon
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29. December 2006 @ 01:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Tell me a good one, I'll post it.
I'm hoping before too long one of our colleagues will have an English translation.
Hisam
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1. January 2007 @ 03:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hello there!

Could you please send us the results
in English please,
because the description of XviD ADS settings
is no longer available at the ADS site.

They managed an amusing compression,
and I would like to know how :-)

Happy New Year
meatwagon
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1. January 2007 @ 07:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Beyond amusing, their compression rendered high quality 50 min. videos at ~ 125 MB. Allowed building dvd's with 4 episodes and a menu, instead of 1 or 2.
Hisam
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1. January 2007 @ 07:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sorry - ASD
i have just missed the order,
but they are really doing well...

Thanks if you could get their settings!
kowalwsky
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8. January 2007 @ 11:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@meatwagon
could I have that too please? I'm looking for that for long time
i sent you my email-address per pm. thank you!

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meatwagon
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2. February 2007 @ 06:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have forwarded the polish version of the XviD asd procedure for producing their high quality, high compression AVI files to several of you. I wonder if any of those receiving the file have had any luck in translating.
Hopefully you will be able to give us a status update.
Thanks
Hisam
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2. February 2007 @ 09:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Meatwagon:
Hi, I have just sent you a PW
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5. February 2007 @ 20:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Wow. I just got one of these files, and it's pretty amazing how they keep such decent quality at the bitrates they compress at. I got interested in it and started downloading Hellsing, and the first episode has a video bitrate of 326kbps. Even the audio sounded decent at 48kbps for being MP3.

And by the way, if you're set up to play normal XviD files, then these shouldn't be a problem to play. I'm using Media Player Classic with FFDShow and it works fine.

There must have been a lot of quality tweaking in order for them to keep it this well maintained at this size. Here's the info from using AVIcodec:

File : 61 MB (61 MB), duration: 0:22:50, type: AVI, 1 audio stream(s), quality: 36 %

Video : 53 MB, 326 Kbps, 23.976 fps, 640*480 (4:3), XviD = XviD MPEG-4, Not checked

Audio : 7.83 MB, 48 Kbps, 24000 Hz, 2 channels, 0x55 = MPEG Layer-3, Supported

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DaisyF
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6. February 2007 @ 03:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Rikoshay : There must have been a lot of quality tweaking in order for them to keep it this well maintained at this size
If you use VirtualDub to re-encode one of your 350MB episodes with the settings you described (video 326 Kbps, audio 48 Kbps 24kHz) while using 2-pass XviD, you will get that 'asd'quality. No extra tweaking needed. It's my opinion that there is nothing 'extra' or 'special' about 'asd-xvid'; it's just XviD (or DivX)-encoding at low bitrates. If there is something EXTRA, I really would like to know, and would appreciate specific information.

I archive my series with 24 episodes on one dvd, using those low settings, and the quality is just like the encodes delivered by the guys from the http://www.tvshows.yoyo.pl/index-e.html website. Just try for yourselves : VirtualDub or virtualdubmod, doom9 for a guide and the XviD codec; nothing to it.

Daisy D Fetherweight

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Hisam
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6. February 2007 @ 09:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It is H.264, not XviD

I will try the VDub 2 pass, low settings.
I think I will get some garbage :-)
DaisyF
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7. February 2007 @ 03:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Which show do you get h264 ? Dit g-spot tell you this? Strange since all my asd-episodes are XviD.

:) and it says XviD-asd, not h264-asd :)

Good luck with your testing, let me know how it works out

Daisy D Fetherweight

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Hisam
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7. February 2007 @ 21:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi Daisy,

yes, you are right :-)

Gspot screen link

That is what GSpot says

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Hisam
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Hi,

the testing was done.
I got 110Megs of 44 minutes video,
and a quiet good quality.

I used the general AS@L3 XviD settings
with 330 kbps.

That's all.
tqnth
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8. February 2007 @ 20:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Hisam:
Hi,

the testing was done.
I got 110Megs of 44 minutes video,
and a quiet good quality.

I used the general AS@L3 XviD settings
with 330 kbps.

That's all.
tqnth
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8. February 2007 @ 22:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I used VirtualDub and with all the setting in place, and it did not convert to the decompress file that i want.

Here's the settings that I used:

Video: 326 kbps
23.976 fps
640 x 480

Audio:
48kbps
24,000 Hz
2 channel

Profile@Level:
Advanced Simple@L3 (I'm not sure if this is the correct setting)

As a result, the file that i wanna shrink down did not do its part. The file size is more than the original file.

I'm confused on which twopass to use (the twopass-1st pass or twopass-2nd pass).

Is there a guide in which I can use to do a better job of decompressing my files. Tahnks in advance.
DaisyF
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9. February 2007 @ 12:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Quote:
tqnth
Profile@Level:
Advanced Simple@L3 (I'm not sure if this is the correct setting)

As a result, the file that i wanna shrink down did not do its part. The file size is more than the original file.

I'm confused on which twopass to use (the twopass-1st pass or twopass-2nd pass).
You're mixing things up. If you do two pass encoding :) you have to use both 1st AND 2nd pass.

Do -Twopass 1st pass- first (for making an encoding map) and then do -Twopass 2nd pass- (the actual encoding). The one without the other doesn't work.

Let me know which codec you are using : DivX or XviD. I use XviD and I just use the -unresttricted- profile, no need for tweaking.

Look at doom9 for a guide http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=16935

Look at XviD for a free and very good codec http://www.xvid.org/

Look at Super for an integrated encoding solution http://www.erightsoft.net/SUPER.html

Hardcore-users dig VirtualDub though

Daisy D Fetherweight

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Hisam
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9. February 2007 @ 23:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi Daisy,

thanks for the link to SUPER!
I did not know about it yet and I will try.

Take a look at
MEGUI

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Boerseun
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13. July 2007 @ 19:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi guys....I am VERY new to this "game". I need help please!!!! I've downloaded episode of Sliders with an .asd extention. I get it to play with ALC and Media Player Clasic but there is NO SOUND. I've installed FFD Show, no luck. Please HELP somebody!!!! Ideally I'd like to play it on my DVD player connected to my TV, like Hero's and others.....THANK you to the souls who take pity on me....
Boerseun
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13. July 2007 @ 20:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Me again, in relation to my msg posted earlier today. Here is what media player clasic tells me:

MPEG-1 Audio Decoder::Out
ffdshow Audio Decoder::Out
Audio Switcher::Out

Media Type 0:
--------------------------
Audio: PCM 48000Hz stereo 1536Kbps

AM_MEDIA_TYPE:
majortype: MEDIATYPE_Audio {73647561-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
subtype: MEDIASUBTYPE_PCM {00000001-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
formattype: FORMAT_WaveFormatEx {05589F81-C356-11CE-BF01-00AA0055595A}
bFixedSizeSamples: 1
bTemporalCompression: 0
lSampleSize: 1
cbFormat: 18

WAVEFORMATEX:
wFormatTag: 0x0001
nChannels: 2
nSamplesPerSec: 48000
nAvgBytesPerSec: 192000
nBlockAlign: 4
wBitsPerSample: 16
cbSize: 0 (extra bytes)

pbFormat:
0000: 01 00 02 00 80 bb 00 00 00 ee 02 00 04 00 10 00 ....?»...î......
0010: 00 00 ..


Media Type 1:
--------------------------
Unknown

AM_MEDIA_TYPE:
majortype: MEDIATYPE_Stream {E436EB83-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}
subtype: MEDIASUBTYPE_None {E436EB8E-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770}
formattype: FORMAT_None {0F6417D6-C318-11D0-A43F-00A0C9223196}
bFixedSizeSamples: 0
bTemporalCompression: 0
lSampleSize: 230400
cbFormat: 0

....and when I try to get the codecs from the net (as prompted by mpc) there is just a blank screen.

Hope this helps you techckies....Thank you...
joeako
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21. July 2007 @ 14:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey has anyone else noticed that XviD is DivX backwards?
celtic_d
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21. July 2007 @ 23:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Very old news. Basically you had DivX 3.11alpha which was just a hacked version of MS MPEG-4 V3. The same people started a project (project Mayo) to produce an opensouce MPEG-4 encoder (OpenDivX), but then they closed it, started DivX networks and released DivX 4. People who wanted to continue developing an open source MPEG-4 codec took the OpenDivX code and started XviD. Neither DivX (I would think) nor Xvid contain any OpenDivX code now.
coldet
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24. July 2007 @ 03:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It's really interesting how the ASD group keeps their method/settings secret. What's even more interesting is the fact that no one really has a decent answer. I've been downloading movies/tv episodes etc. for ever and have yet to come across an equal to the "asd" copies (file size/quality).

If there is anyone here that does have a clear answer to their settings/method, PLEASE post it here so we can finally put an end to this thread.
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coldet
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27. July 2007 @ 11:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
OK - I'm gonna try to put this to bed. But first - thank you meatwagon for sending me the translated guide in PDF. I have posted the file onto the newsservers at alt.binaries.xvid I unfortunatly dont know of a file hosting site to use.

The asd compression method in a nutshell.

1. They use Video codec XviD 1.1.0-beta2 and warn that newer versions may cause problems!!
2. Sound compressed with standard MPEG-Layer3
3. VirtualDub
4. Start VirtualDub and set Audio - Full processing mode
5. Next select Audio - Compression
6. New Window a)select MPEG-Layer3 b) on right select 48kBIT/s, 24,000Hz Stereo 6KB/s
7. Now select Video - Compression..
8. In the new window choose Xvid MPEG-4 Codec and click on config
9. New window a) click on Load Defaults b) in Encoding type select Twopass - 1st pass apply by clicking on OK.
10. Open the video file you wish to compress (warning can be ignored) then select File-Save as AVI.. give a file name and your compression will start.
11. Once complete Do not close program after first compression or you'll have to start everything from the begining. now it's time for the real compression ie. the second pass.
12. choose Video - Compression..
13. New window click on Configure
14. New window at Encoding type: change to Twopass - 2nd pass Now ....
15. In Target size (kbytes) calculate the following:
Input file size (MB)/3,5 = Target size(kbytes). Example 376MB/3,5 = 107,428 Target size rounded off to 105000. click on OK
16. Now it's time to choose File - Save as AVI.. The compression will then start.
17. Check the new file and make sure that the audio/video synchronisation is correct.

And thats supposedly all there is to it.
 
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