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Just curious: how many people in this forum DONT have anyDVD?
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28. October 2006 @ 07:01 |
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Quote: when people are so stubborn as to make the argument for free programing,
@diverj
i only work six months out of the year, so the rest of the year i have all the time in the world. i have no problem with four steps.
if i had less time, i might go a differen't route. but that's not the case. like i have stated in many of my other posts in differen't threads. i think AnyDVD is a great proggy. do i have it? no... will i buy it? ...definitely. when i need it.
...and secondly, since you used my post for your "quote", i didn't make an argument for anything. all i did was state the system that i use, and that works for ME. so, i don't appreciate being called "stubborn".
it's members like you that take this stuff so seriously that make me laugh when i read your posts....
tjedwards.
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28. October 2006 @ 07:31 |
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fight,fight,fight.LOL.
me do ripit4me(fixvts checked)/Recode2 or shrink/ IMGBurn. main movie only is where is at. whatever "at" means.LOL.
Nero Recode2 or Shrink using deep analysis and AEC/ fabdecrypter or anydvd running in the background/ IMGBurn to burn/main movie only mode= perfect.
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28. October 2006 @ 07:32 |
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There is no reason to get upset or hostile over this. Like I said several posts ago, if your way of doing a backup works for you, keep using that system and programs. If the final result you get is a backup dvd that plays when you want it to, then its all you can ask for. I have see heated debates over quality scans between program usage. Its a backup copy, not the original. If its plays and can be watched then its good enough for me. I have compressed movies at 50% and they still play well. If I get a slight glitch now and then I don't really care. I'm not trying to pass off my backups as originals. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, so just keep it calm if you need to keep the debate going. Creaky may need to stomp on you if it gets out of hand,LOL.
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28. October 2006 @ 07:54 |
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i'll force everyone to use DVD Shrink, that'll stop the arguing :)
not really...
it seems this is one of those subjects that will burn on forever more.
I use free, but only because it does the job; i don't get bogged down with ALL the free stuff, partly as i don't need to, DVDFab Decrypter (so far) just does the trick.
I could easily buy AnyDVD, no real reason that i haven't, it's certainly not a cost thing, AnyDVD costs naff all. i'm just happy with the handful of (simple to use) programs that i have. Everyone's different, i'm a bit lazy and just use the right tools for the job (my tools just don't happen to be everyone else's choice of tools). As long as my tools still work i'll still use them; but a key thing here is i appreciate that other's use other programs, and for a few different reasons.
So i just don't see why this argument rages on :P
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28. October 2006 @ 08:17 |
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no argument here.
i just don't like being called stubborn. (which i am)LOL!
it just kinda bothered me when diverj used my 1st post for his "rant" when all i did was state the system that i use. it does not matter to me what proggy people use, as long as it works for them......GREAT!
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28. October 2006 @ 14:14 |
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The main point of this thread is "the original poster" posted: "Just curious: how many people in this forum DONT have AnyDVD?" Of course with this kind of question asked, there are some that doesn't used AnyDVD at all. Isn't it ironic when the thread is asking "who don't have AnyDVD?" yet AnyDVD users jumped in and started to cry to some of us that loves free tools?
I seriously don't see the point of someone (some people) constantly saying; "why not use AnyDVD + CloneDVD2? Why used 3 programs to get things done?" Simple and easy, yes... if it works for you, then use it and let it be. Stop complaining; stop crying out loud to those that don't use AnyDVD and CloneDVD2. Now let alone "quality" and don't even go there.
I don't come here and tell AnyDVD lovers/users to ditch AnyDVD. That being said, my point is... if I'm happy with what I used and it works, then why should I care for AnyDVD? Money is NOT an issue for me; $39 is pretty cheap if you'd asked me. So why go around and criticizing those that are using free tools instead of AnyDVD?
There are 3 kinds of people when it comes to DVD ripping and burning; (1) the few (the advanced) that would never pay for anything, but simply using some good ole free tools. (2) Those that will pay for anything and (3) those clueless that will pay for tons of programs/softwares, yet still lost when issues arise.
Again, I must repeat, money is NOT an issue for me. Hence, if I want to get AnyDVD, I will and I can even if it cost $200 or $300 just for that piece. However, we're entitled to our own judgment (to each own), plus I have my own reason not to.
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28. October 2006 @ 15:00 |
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I do not have AnyDVD! Never had any reason. DVD Shrink for me and on a few of the newer ones DVDFab Decrypter first. Very good and very simple.
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28. October 2006 @ 17:52 |
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Quote: yet AnyDVD users jumped in and started to cry to some of us that loves free tools?
Many of us, and probably most of us, that use AnyDVD and CloneDVD, couldn't care less what you use. When we offer the advice to use AnyDVD and CloneDVD, we're offering an option, that we know WORKS.
For whatever reason, people have a lot of trouble using a lot of the free software. I, and others, also use some free software, in conjunction with AnyDVD. And we get the job done. We suggest AnyDVD because it works. It's that simple.
Look around the forums, and you'll find more threads where people have trouble making backups with Shrink, DVD Fab Decrypter, Vob Blanker, DVD Decrypter, IMGBurn, RipIt4Me, etc..........
You'll find a few that have trouble with AnyDVD and CloneDVD too. But not that many. I think those that have problems with them, have something on their computer, that conflicts with them somehow.
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28. October 2006 @ 19:24 |
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supose someone who wasnt going to pay for AnyDVD or clonedvd2 was reading this forum? wich is better regaurdless of price? its gotta be AnyDVD with clonedvd2. two steps. start avydvd and insert dvd. open clone dvd2 and press copy. two steps. thats it. literaly like 4 clicks or something, dont have to worry about deleting things or anything. and i havent found a dvd i couldnt copy yet and i have been usuing a copy of AnyDVD from months back.
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28. October 2006 @ 23:26 |
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I don't know what all the fuss'in is about. I've got all the free ones, and the other ones too.
I just love trying new software to see what it is capable of.
If one proggy won't do what I want ( which of course could be operator error or lack of knowledge), TRY something else until you accomplish what you've set out to do in the first place.
If a proggy gives you the results you're looking for then end of story!
Peace,
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29. October 2006 @ 00:43 |
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indeed..
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29. October 2006 @ 15:43 |
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tjedwards
You mistook my post. I used your quote to back up my thoughts, however, I never once called "you" stubborn. I was talking in general terms...."when people" I never mentioned your name, and it was never my intent to call anyone personally to the floor. You have a perfect right to use any method you prefer of course. I just do not understand the mentality it takes to go through more steps and time for free programs, when one will do (even if I have to pay for it) the job as well or better. I find paid programs better built, better documented, and it makes no sense to put ones self through multiple steps for the same quality output. Now, if the paid program cost 600 dollars and it took that to create a better output, then YES, I could see using free, but just to save 29 dollars? To me, the argument would be useless and stubborn.
Do not fool yourself, or attempt to fool me. You take this stuff serious, or you 1) would not be making backups of your movies 2) would not be reading and responding to posts in a forum when you are satisfied with the way you do things 3) responding to posts and stating " you do not appreceiate...." when someone says something you do not like instead of "just laughing" as you state you do, forgetting it and moving on. If you do not take this stuff seriously you would be doing none of the above. Since you had to call me on the carpet alerts me that you DO TAKE THIS STUFF SERIOUSLY.
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29. October 2006 @ 18:32 |
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.....laughing again.
and now.....unsubscribing from this thread.
If your not a little scared.....youre not riding hard enough!!!
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29. October 2006 @ 19:31 |
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Quote: Many of us, and probably most of us, that use AnyDVD and CloneDVD, couldn't care less what you use. When we offer the advice to use AnyDVD and CloneDVD, we're offering an option, that we know WORKS.
For whatever reason, people have a lot of trouble using a lot of the free software. I, and others, also use some free software, in conjunction with AnyDVD. And we get the job done. We suggest AnyDVD because it works. It's that simple.
Look around the forums, and you'll find more threads where people have trouble making backups with Shrink, DVD Fab Decrypter, Vob Blanker, DVD Decrypter, IMGBurn, RipIt4Me, etc..........
You'll find a few that have trouble with AnyDVD and CloneDVD too. But not that many. I think those that have problems with them, have something on their computer, that conflicts with them somehow.
And your point is...?
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29. October 2006 @ 20:10 |
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CloneDVD 2 + AnyDVD user <<<<<<<<<<< for the most part
its a time issue and maybe because i am a little lazy lol
but i have used most of them and i am very impressed with "RipIt4Me"
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30. October 2006 @ 03:22 |
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Your quote:
Quote: And your point is...?
Also your quote:
Quote: yet AnyDVD users jumped in and started to cry to some of us that loves free tools?
My quote:
Quote: Many of us, and probably most of us, that use AnyDVD and CloneDVD, couldn't care less what you use.
I see MANY more people, that use nothing but the free stuff, crying, because we suggest something that costs a little bit. Nobody is forcing anybody, to buy anything!
I agree with everyone else. Use what works for you. But don't cry at us that offer the suggestion of using AnyDVD, to people that seem to want something that works. They want suggestions...........we offer what we know that works. You offer what you know that works. Then they can decide.
That's my point.........
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30. October 2006 @ 06:36 |
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The problem with threads like this is its about opinions, and EVERYONE has one of their own. As long as you state you opinion thats fine. Once you start to QUOTE other members it takes on a personal note and sometimes becomes a heated debate. I was a firm believer in DVD Shrink and DVD Decrypter until all support for them died. At that time, AnyDVD was about the only program that worked 99% of the time on the new encryptions that were coming out then. It was one of the few programs that was still updated to cover all new encryptions as it does today. Slysoft's location keeps them safe from the long arm of the law. Its not a matter of money VS free as long as everything works. Its just that I have seen many good FREE programs die because the law gets to them or someone buys them out and starts charging for something that was free. I never try to force my opinion on anyone. I just state facts so others can make their choice. As long as support is there for the present FREE programs I see nothing wrong with them. They do work with a little extra effort. I made my choice over 2 years ago and haven't looked back. I do try the free programs as they come out or when updated to see how they work, but my main choice for backups will still be Clonedvd/Anydvd. Again this is only my opinion and I will never try to force my choices on someone else.
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30. October 2006 @ 11:32 |
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I just use Alkohol's guides. They're simple and well documented. There are many ways of doing one thing and that's the great part about it.
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30. October 2006 @ 11:35 |
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absolutely.....
..however i can't see why people get sooo heated about having a few simple choices in life. free or not free, or even free and not free. i don't see the problem. i personally could care less as long as movies purchased via my hard-earnt money is backed up in some way or another...
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30. October 2006 @ 16:35 |
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I was reading through different areas of the forum when I accidently came across this thread.
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/410490.
I try not to throw fuel on a burning fire, but this is exactly why I stick with Clonedvd/Anydvd. Some of you FREE program users posted in that thread. It seems the free programs didn't exactly work as expected in that thread where as Clonedvd/Anydvd did work with out much of a problem. Again, this in no way states I am against them or think they are junk. It just shows the difference between a program with great support because it is purchased and those that have free support. I did not go looking for this thread,LOL.
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30. October 2006 @ 17:11 |
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i rarely get involved with threads on the new movies, sometimes i lurk on the more prevalent ones for giggles; the good thing about being in the UK (i guess there had to be one single good reason to live here LOL) is that we tend to get movies after everyone else, and as such the tools (free AND non-free) tend to have been updated by then to cater for the latest films, and i personally very very rarely have trouble with any single movie out there. It never ceases to amaze/befuddle me how so many people out there have quite so many problems with each new movie that comes out :P
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30. October 2006 @ 17:35 |
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Your right Creaky, all it takes is one difficult movie and you will see every possible combination of programs and ways of using them. It makes me wonder how many different programs can be used at the same time to accomplish one task. Makes for good reading when you have the time.
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30. October 2006 @ 22:48 |
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Quote: It never ceases to amaze/befuddle me how so many people out there have quite so many problems with each new movie that comes out
creaky i am with you lol
here is what i think causes most the problems
1. people using box PC systems that have inferior drives/burners without updated firmware.(they just will not rip/transcode some movies correctly)
2. transcoding/burning on a machine thats not clean (disc cleanup and defragging often is important).
3. folks NOT using good blank media , remember nOObs use Taiyo Yuden and or Verbatim theres no reason to use anything else
4. and of course some people just don't know what there doing or the correct way to do it lol . which in turn makes us post and repost the same thing over and over and over again !!!!
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31. October 2006 @ 18:50 |
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This forum use to recommed Ridata blank DVDs and I started using them back when. I still use them 100 percent of the time, and have never had any trouble with them. I have purchased several hundred to date, no problems. I do not know why folks stopped recommending them. Perhaps Scuba Pete was the only one and I have not seen any posts from him in ages. Wonder what happened to him. Anyway, Ridata still good discs to use.
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Hey interseting stuff even though this thread is a bit old but im going to give you a newbies point of view i just started learning how to burn dvds about 6 months ago the first time i tried to put the dvd in and and copy the files and then burn well that didnt work so i thought well there got to be a way so i googled it came up with DVD Shrink and DVD Decrypter downloaded them and tried again with the triple xxx movies and used a memorex DVD-RW and it worked i was happier then a coke head in columbia si kept practicing and ran into a problem couldnt burn a movie thata when the IT Guy at my job put me up on AnyDVD and wouldnt you know it it worked and i have been happy ever since and i still use the same tools DVD Shrink & decrypter and i keep AnyDVD on at startup so i just put a disk in it strips it open shrink makes it smaller then burn it with shrink onto dvd thats it and i keep all my movie files on external hardrive i have a 1 terabyte HD to keep all my movies files just in case i scratch the copy i burn it again and the originals i never touch again im just giving you a newbs point of view as to how everyone chooses whats best for them im sure as i get more exp. i might try other things but for now this works.... happily burning for 6 months :]
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