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raiderj
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28. February 2007 @ 07:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'd also recommend www.mod-chip.com. Excellent service, and Ostermann has been happy to replace any bad chips that I've received (which have all been DMS4 SE Pro).

The Toxic OS is certainly a nice feature for the DMS chips, but the Crystal Chips are getting all the updates (and Toxic OS is no longer supported). With HD Loader + patches, you can have even more compatibility with games on the hard drive.
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28. February 2007 @ 08:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
well, it is nice to have the old version of PS2. If i buy the thick one now, i'm affaid the laser is weak. That is why i want to buy a new PS2.

So it is going to be slim version. and the hdd can't not be use. Modchip is the only option for me. I will visit mod-chip.com to check out the chip.

I just have few questions about the chip.

After install modchip, do i need to flash or to upgrade bios? how to do so? is there any apps in the bios? if so, can you tell me which bios are good? what are the purpose for 2M, 1M memory on the modchip?


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This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 28. February 2007 @ 08:37

raiderj
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28. February 2007 @ 08:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Typically, yes, you need to install a BIOS before you can really do much with a chip. This just means you run a CD with the latest update and you're done.

More memory onboard means you can run more programs from the chip itself. More is better, but if you just plan on running backups, it really doesn't matter much.

For simplicity, I'd recommend the DMS4 Pro with Toxic OS. For more features and future upgrades, go with the Crystal Chip that has 2MB onboard memory.
yeahboi
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28. February 2007 @ 13:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok, i know i am probly starting to be a pain in the ass but it still won't work. i cut off the connector of the ground wire, stripped the wire back a bout a 1/8 in., and soldered it to the copper looking ring with the little silver dots that i tryed to ground it to before and it still brings up a black screen. i turn on the switch and hit the reset or open buttons and it kinda flashes once, but thats it. is there a certain way that the ribbons need to go in? there is blue tape-like-stuff on one side and nothing on the other, is there a difference? i don't really want to try to remove the "piggyback" chips, er bio and dsp, er whatever they are called because i heard that it probly won't work after removing them and putting them back on. i am really confused and if any1 could maybe show a pic of any kind of suggestion, or help some more in any way i would really appriciate it. thanks for all the help so far, and sorry about bein a pain
raiderj
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28. February 2007 @ 13:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What chip are you installing? If its a DMS4 EZI, I've heard those are hell to get working.

Some of my install pictures are here.
yeahboi
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28. February 2007 @ 15:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
this is the link to it, its a solderless DMS4 pro
http://www.consolesource.com/ecomm/catal...hip-p-2507.html
raiderj
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28. February 2007 @ 15:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ah, I can't really help you out then. I would advise removing everything from your PS2 and seeing if your system still works. If it does, then send it in to either Team Modders or NorCal Mods and have it soldered in.

I've heard nothing but horror stories with the no solder chip. Half the time that they do work, they get knocked loose and cause other problems.
yeahboi
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28. February 2007 @ 16:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
well that just sux lol. do you think that the ps2 will still work with originals if i remove the chip? i don't know if i want a modchip if im gonna have this much trouble. i might go with some other chip later on or something, but if it won't work at all once i take it out, i'll probly shoot it er somethin. lol. do i need a modchip to use a harddrive? i still dont know very much about them, but it seems to be a easier solution. thanks for all the help man, really
boodaddy
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28. February 2007 @ 16:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by yeahboi:
well that just sux lol. do you think that the ps2 will still work with originals if i remove the chip? i don't know if i want a modchip if im gonna have this much trouble. i might go with some other chip later on or something, but if it won't work at all once i take it out, i'll probly shoot it er somethin. lol. do i need a modchip to use a harddrive? i still dont know very much about them, but it seems to be a easier solution. thanks for all the help man, really
Welp. It sounds like you have a wire soldered on wrong. You need to double check your diragram and see if it is the same. You really don't need to take the chip out to test to see if it's working. Just unhook the wires to the chip and put it back together. If you don't have your wires ran correctly and they are crossing other chips that will make it go black to because of frequency interference. Here is a check list below.

If you PS2 fails to boot (black screen)
a) Check points D thru N
b) Check your power and ground wire connections
c) Ensure that ALL wires are laid flat against the motherboard
d) Make sure you havn't solder bridged and adjacent pins or pads
If it still is black after you have check these steps. Take all the wires off the modchip and put your console back together and turn on.

You can use a harddrive without the chip, but it must be an external harddrive and it is slower then using cd's. The point about internal harddrives is it can have faster load times, and zero cd's to mess with. The chip install process can be a pain. It took me over 9hrs of install time to get the wiring and everything looking smooth.

Also make sure you are using something to ground yourself with like a strap. I don't think you did but you can take your motherboard out real easy with one static touch. It is better to tuff it out and take the time to get it right because you won't have a day that goes by disappointed. It's the Bomb

Did you get your chip from mod-chip.com? Because it comes with very good instructions on installing.

Let me know if this helps.
Thanks,
Bobby
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28. February 2007 @ 17:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Welp. It sounds like you have a wire soldered on wrong. You need to double check your diragram and see if it is the same. You really don't need to take the chip out to test to see if it's working. Just unhook the wires to the chip and put it back together. If you don't have your wires ran correctly and they are crossing other chips that will make it go black to because of frequency interference. Here is a check list below.

If you PS2 fails to boot (black screen)
a) Check points D thru N
b) Check your power and ground wire connections
c) Ensure that ALL wires are laid flat against the motherboard
d) Make sure you havn't solder bridged and adjacent pins or pads
If it still is black after you have check these steps. Take all the wires off the modchip and put your console back together and turn on.

You can use a harddrive without the chip, but it must be an external harddrive and it is slower then using cd's. The point about internal harddrives is it can have faster load times, and zero cd's to mess with. The chip install process can be a pain. It took me over 9hrs of install time to get the wiring and everything looking smooth.

Also make sure you are using something to ground yourself with like a strap. I don't think you did but you can take your motherboard out real easy with one static touch. It is better to tuff it out and take the time to get it right because you won't have a day that goes by disappointed. It's the Bomb

Did you get your chip from mod-chip.com? Because it comes with very good instructions on installing.

Let me know if this helps.
Thanks,
Bobby

Everything that was just posted is incorrect - ignore it all.

The reason for removal of EVERYTHING, is that the no-solder clips themselves can bridge points, causing the problems.

You can use an internal harddrive without a modchip, it's called HD Advance.

You don't need a ground strap for working on a PS2.


If your system works once everything is removed (see if it will play originals), then you can reuse the chip and have it soldered in. NorCal or TM should be able to do it for $35. If they won't, I will (assuming you still have a working system).
boodaddy
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28. February 2007 @ 18:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Welp. It sounds like you have a wire soldered on wrong. You need to double check your diragram and see if it is the same. You really don't need to take the chip out to test to see if it's working. Just unhook the wires to the chip and put it back together. If you don't have your wires ran correctly and they are crossing other chips that will make it go black to because of frequency interference. Here is a check list below.

If you PS2 fails to boot (black screen)
a) Check points D thru N
b) Check your power and ground wire connections
c) Ensure that ALL wires are laid flat against the motherboard
d) Make sure you havn't solder bridged and adjacent pins or pads
If it still is black after you have check these steps. Take all the wires off the modchip and put your console back together and turn on.

You can use a harddrive without the chip, but it must be an external harddrive and it is slower then using cd's. The point about internal harddrives is it can have faster load times, and zero cd's to mess with. The chip install process can be a pain. It took me over 9hrs of install time to get the wiring and everything looking smooth.

Also make sure you are using something to ground yourself with like a strap. I don't think you did but you can take your motherboard out real easy with one static touch. It is better to tuff it out and take the time to get it right because you won't have a day that goes by disappointed. It's the Bomb

Did you get your chip from mod-chip.com? Because it comes with very good instructions on installing.

Let me know if this helps.
Thanks,
Bobby

Everything that was just posted is incorrect - ignore it all.

The reason for removal of EVERYTHING, is that the no-solder clips themselves can bridge points, causing the problems.

You can use an internal harddrive without a modchip, it's called HD Advance.

You don't need a ground strap for working on a PS2.


If your system works once everything is removed (see if it will play originals), then you can reuse the chip and have it soldered in. NorCal or TM should be able to do it for $35. If they won't, I will (assuming you still have a working system).[/quote]He said he purchased a DMS4 SE Pro they don't have clips solder only. You need to check info bedore posting. You can't have an internal harddrive with HD Advance and copy origional games straight to the console. So actually everything above is correct.
raiderj
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28. February 2007 @ 19:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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He said he purchased a DMS4 SE Pro they don't have clips solder only. You need to check info bedore posting. You can't have an internal harddrive with HD Advance and copy origional games straight to the console. So actually everything above is correct.
He has a DMS4 Pro EZI, which do have clips. Did you see the part where he said he had a solderless chip? Obviously not.

Yes, you can have an internal hardrive and use HD Advance. He has a v7 PS2, not a slimline.
yeahboi
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1. March 2007 @ 14:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i took the "piggyback" chips off and tried plugging in the ribbons "up side down", reinstalled them, and by god it works!, well it load originals anyway. i download toxic .41, burned the cue file onto a cd and tried to load it, but it said to insert a ps2 disc...? am i doin something wrong? the only thing i can figure is that i burned the wrong file er maybe the chip isn't connected er somethin...? not real sure. it loads originals though and thats good enough for right now, but if someone could help with the toxic problem, i'd appriciate it

it is a "solderless" chip, with what i call "piggyback" chips, no wires to solder, just 2 press on clip and a few ribbon cables things, sorry for all the confusion
raiderj
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1. March 2007 @ 14:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I think you can hold down select when the system boots to disable the chip. If it says "DMS disabled" or something, then you know things are working ok. If not, then something isn't right.

The DSP clip(?) I think might control disc authentication, and the BIOS clip should do the rest of the chip functions. That might narrow down your problem.

Sorry I can't be more helpful - those EZI setups are kind of an all or nothing deal. I would still HIGHLY recommend you get the chip soldered in. The $35 you'd spend would be well worth it.
yeahboi
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1. March 2007 @ 14:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
don't i still have to have it flashed er something? im not sure what it all means but i have heard something about the dms pro doesn't play backups unless you flash it with something like toxic, but i have NO clue what any of it means, lol. but my ps2 will play originals and wont play backups...??? i want to try to get this to work and if i can't i might get one soldered in, but i want to try this first. thanks for your help dude!
raiderj
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1. March 2007 @ 15:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes, it does need to be flashed before it's really useful. But, if the chip isn't installed properly, you won't be able to flash it.

To see if you do have the chip installed properly, hold down select. If it says the chip is disabled, then you should be able to flash the chip with the Toxic OS.

If you don't see that screen, then something isn't working! Burning the Toxic OS to a CD should be dummy-proof, so it should load up right from the start.
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Josho2
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2. March 2007 @ 09:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Please ignore this, I posted it in the wrong place.

Death, it is your destiny!

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