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dvd rip speed with smartripper
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12. October 2002 @ 09:47 |
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harvey713
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12. October 2002 @ 12:00 |
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When I use SmartRipper to rip to my hard drive the rate always fluctuates between 1x and 5x. I don't know what the problem is. These are normal measurments. You could have a 50X DVD-ROM drive, but that's only a theoretical maximum that at best could only be sustained for a fraction of a second. AND1's stats are normal.
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12. October 2002 @ 12:02 |
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DVD Decrypter gives you better readings, as it gives you the average ripping speed. I achieve 5.0 - 6.5x ripping with my 16x Pioneer.
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harvey713
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12. October 2002 @ 12:09 |
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dRD, I guess that makes me a big time loser. As I have only a Sony 5X (DDU-220) and a DVR-104. I guess it's time for an upgrade. The problem is my old stuff works so well, and seems to run as fast as everybody else's that I don't see any compelling reason to change it.
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12. October 2002 @ 12:14 |
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Doesn't make much of a difference, specially if you encode the clips into DivX/SVCD/VCD (with DVD-R, the case is different), since the ripping part is only an extremely small chunk of the full time its gonna take to convert the DVD :-) So, even that I can rip nicely, I still run on P3/500 and I use CCE 4-pass for encoding ;-)
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harvey713
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12. October 2002 @ 12:37 |
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dRD, I shouldn't respond to this but since you're the "go to" guy, I have to. I don't do VCD/SVCD or DivX. DVD rocks and will continue to do so until a better format comes around. Until then I'll continue to copy my Blockbuster Favorites until they bust me. Of course I'm referring to movies that I purchased and backed up for archival purposes in accordance with the law.
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12. October 2002 @ 13:05 |
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I agree, DVD-R is the way to go and I guessed that since you referred to your A04 in your previous email, that's why I noted the DVD-R case separately.
And obviously everybody in these forums backups their own movies, we wouldn't even dare to suggest otherwise, since we all know that crime doesn't pay, etc. *grins*
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jr_romero
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14. October 2002 @ 12:49 |
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as I said, it takes me about 6 to 18 minutes to rip a DVD with smartripper and a 16X LiteON DVD-ROM, it's amazing that you seem to get 1 to 5X speeds only, sorry.
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malum
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15. October 2002 @ 00:32 |
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If your IDE controller is running in PIO mode even though it says 'DMA if available' and you are using XP then you need to uninstall the IDE controllers and have it pick them up on a reboot to get it running in DMA mode. This is a 'feature' of XP it disables DMA after 6 errors and you can't re-enable it without reinstalling the controllers
If you have a Via chipset there is a utilty you can download that enables you to change the DMA settings to the optimum for the drive (which it will also tell you) I don't have the link here I#ll post it later if anyone is interested
Having said all that I have a Pioneer 104 which is set to DMA on a different IDE to a 60GB defragmented 7200 HD set to UDMA5, Win XP and NTFS, Athlon 1700XP and 512 MB DDR Ram and I still only 2x ripping speed.
If I ever figure out why I'll let you know.
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25. November 2002 @ 04:36 |
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I have a Pioneer slot-loading DVD drive. Not sure what speed it is, prolly 16x.
Anyways. With the original (i.e. non-patched) firmware it'd rip at 2x max... Then I popped off to www.firmware.fr.st , downloaded my region-free patched firmware and now the damn thing rips at 6x or more. However, individual results tend to depend on whether the disc is dual-layer or not... Dual layer discs rip slower initially then get progressively much faster once the layer has changed, whereas single layer discs just rip at a constant fast speed.
So perhaps updating your firmware may help...
For all those of you who are telling that person to enable DMA in their system options: in 2000 (and XP - retch) the DMA option isn't shown. You have to either use In Windows. Alternatively, there _is_ a long way round, but it's not obvious.
[i](copied and pasted from http://web.ukonline.co.uk/cook/Hidden.htm)[/i]
[i]6. ENABLE DMA: DMA (Direct Memory Access) allows your IDE hard drive or CDRom to access memory directly, bypassing the CPU. This can free up CPU resources, especially when you are running many programmes simultaneously (multitasking), or using very CPU intensive programmes. You may also see this referred to as Ultra DMA, which is basically the same thing, but allowing for higher burst speeds. Firstly your drives must be DMA capable, most new drives will have this capability, secondly, all drives on a particular channel must be DMA capable too. In Windows 2000 DMA is enabled per channel, not per device: therefore if you have two devices on one IDE channel, both must be DMA capable - this is important as some CDRom drives are not DMA capable. To set DMA mode, click Administrative Tools, and then follow these steps to configure the DMA/PIO settings for a controller:
Click Administrative Tools, and then click Computer Management. Click System Tools, and then click Device Manager. Expand IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers. Click the specific controller for which you want to configure DMA/PIO settings. Click the Advanced Settings tab. In the Transfer Mode box, click either PIO Only or DMA if available.[/i]
Oooh oooh oooh - I just remembered TweakCentral has a VERY good page on setting up DMA.
http://tweakcentral.com/dma.htm
Hope this at least helps to solve your problem.
Christopher.
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malum
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25. November 2002 @ 05:00 |
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The enable DMA option is shown as clear as day in my copy of XP, and I suspect it isn't unique.
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25. November 2002 @ 05:28 |
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But which version of XP is it... I'd put money on the fact it's XP Pro. XP Home doesn't have the option (I think, I'm never going to install XP as I hate its guts and would dearly like to rip off Bill Gates' head and spit down his neck because he ever released it).
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malum
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25. November 2002 @ 05:34 |
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It's Pro
XP is by far the best OS that Microsoft have produced. If you don't like the extras (which is the only objection I can see that you might have) then you can turn them off.
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malum
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25. November 2002 @ 05:35 |
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It's Pro
XP is by far the best OS that Microsoft have produced. If you don't like the extras (which is the only objection I can see that you might have) then you can turn them off.
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kdr008
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25. November 2002 @ 07:14 |
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just in case someone is still following this thread.
I suspect XP is the problem for those slow disc ripping results people are getting here..
Before I installed XP Pro, I had W2K, I was able to get very good result from my 2 DVD drives ( on avg. 6x ), after I did a fresh installation to XP Pro, the ripping speed dropped down to 1.5x or less, depends on the disc. (I used NTFS on both installations)
Believe me, I tried just about everything, even changed one of my DVD Rom drive.. nothing seems to help under XP.
Of course, DMA on your IDE controler, dual layer disc and dvd's encryption also has a lot to do with the speed. But.. what can you do about XP.. :(
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 25. November 2002 @ 07:16
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joecap
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26. November 2002 @ 12:49 |
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I have got the same problem since i installed Windows XP. Smartripper worked perfectly with the exact same configuration when i runned Windows 98. My drive (Pioneer DVDA106) does not have aspi access anymore when using XP. I had a likewise problem when running Windows 2000 but when i set the drive to PIO mode it actualy did rip ! At low speed do (2X) but worked for me. But when using XP now it doest do SHIT !
Smartripper cant even unlock the drive and rips at 0.1x speed and give lots of errors probably by that. Please give my helpfull advise ! I see a lot of the same problems on forums everywhere when searching on the internet about this problem like also on this forom, but non of the awnsers there and here are working for me.
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malum
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26. November 2002 @ 23:16 |
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Just install the aspi layer
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joecap
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26. November 2002 @ 23:58 |
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i did
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malum
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27. November 2002 @ 00:04 |
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Dare I sugest that you didn't do it correctly?
Try forcing it
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joecap
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27. November 2002 @ 00:52 |
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Please explain forcing it ? (I installed XP SP1, latest adaptec aspi drivers who are actualy in systems use..., set drive to PIO mode, even reinstalled IDE controler, installed powerdvd, removed other drive that whas on same channel, etc.)
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malum
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27. November 2002 @ 01:03 |
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There is a download (on here I think) to force the aspi layer on win XP, if not search google.
Use the aspi tester to see if it is installed corrctly (you must use the win XP specific one or you will get a false positive)
Why are you telling it to use PIO mode?
Sorry for the lack of links but I'm v. busy at the moment
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joecap
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27. November 2002 @ 01:49 |
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No prob, youre trying to be helpfull anyway.
But the aspi checker did give positive results !
The reason i set it to PIO earlier whas because smartripper worked with that setting when i used W2K.
But i have switched the drives channel back to DMA offcourse when that didn't work with XP.
But i now do got on to a trick to unlock the drive !!!!! The trick is to play to movie first for a sec with Powerdvd ! But it would be nice if smartripper can gain aspi access.
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phranco
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27. November 2002 @ 21:59 |
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Where to change setting of PIO to DMA in WINDOWS XP:
Right click on My Computer then go to Properties then Hardware tab, then Device Manager > Device Manager button> click (+) sign in front of the IDE ATAPI controllers, then right click on the IDE you want then go to Properties then Advanced settings. Change it from DMA to pio or PIO to DMA, your done.
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phranco
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28. November 2002 @ 00:17 |
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This DMA configuration is also available in XP Home, contrary to what some people here would like to NOT believe.
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28. November 2002 @ 13:33 |
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:D hehehe
But you gotta admit... If XP causes all these problems, then why are people branding it, quote, "the best OS Microsoft have produced so far" unquote... ?
2000 works great, no problems, XP = lots of messing about to make it work at least half as well as 2000 straight outta the box. I'll stick with 2000 for now. And forever more. XP = 2000 with its guts ripped out. Oh, and it has an interface made out of Duplo.
Great if you're a 7 year old.
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