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Pirate Act makes yet another appearance in the U.S. Senate
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article published on 10 November, 2007
U.S. lawmakers are once again trying to get the Department of Justice to take up the case of corporate copyright holders. It seems that Senators Patrick Leahy and John Cornyn apparently are concerned that big corporations don't get enough copyright protection from the law, and feel it's in the country's best interest to assign FBI agents and U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) prosecutors to ... [ read the full article ]
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13. November 2007 @ 04:20 |
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Originally posted by area_51:
I know what will fix everybodys problem. Stop downloading movies and music of the net and don't buy any cds or dvds. Also stop going 2 the theater!
Not a option, I'll cherry pick what gets my time thank you ^^
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13. November 2007 @ 12:07 |
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Originally posted by area_51:
I know what will fix everybodys problem! Stop downloading COPYRIGHTED movies and music off the net, and stop buying dvds, cds, games, and going 2 the theater. Open a savings account and take that money and put it back. Otherwise, stop your b****ing because as long as you are consuming you are a slave! You are giving away money which is power!
no thanks I only give money to used markets and my ISP ^^
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15. November 2007 @ 12:14 |
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This is interesting! Even the Justice Department didn't want to be involed in this tight spot. I wonder what's in it for these two fine lawmakers.
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Even folks in the Justice Department thought it was a bad idea, as they had no desire to be Hollywood's private enforcement arm.
And here is the link.
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16. November 2007 @ 07:46 |
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area_51 your solution although effective if everyone on the planet didn't buy anything, isn't for everyone. I guess we could all go off into the woods and live like we did 10,000 years ago. Personally, I like to live the way I do.
The law will... Source: CNET
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This legislation is a simple bill that would give the Department of Justice the authority to prosecute copyright violations as civil wrongs," Leahy said. If passed, the US Attorney General could bring civil suits against anyone caught downloading copyrighted material; criminal charges would not be allowed. The new draft also apportions a hefty chunk of cash for FBI and Justice Department investigations.
The government will take over for the media mafia. It will be kinda like the patriot act except against pirates. They will get the FBI, CIA and NSA to bug the entire phones monitor the email and anything else they need to rid the USA of pirates. It would be different if the copyright laws befitted the public but they only benefit the media mafia. The MM claims they are doing it ?for the artists'. Historically they treat the artists like the do the pirates. These guys raped the early artists getting them to sign contracts with no percentage rights, just a few bucks up front. Then they collect on their work for a century. Recently, the artists wanted a piece of the pie and the MM told them to pound sand! Now they are on strike. They sued John Fogerty because he was writing music that sounded like he wrote the music under their label. They claimed he was hurting their sales. Oh yes, these guys are the defenders of the artists!
Unlike area_51 who wants to hide, I would prefer to kick those bastards and their lackies in the balls! If this is not abuse of the federal government, I don't know what is. The government might spend $100 to save the media mafia a $1 in sales. That does not make business sense that is why they paid some whores to do their bidding and get the government to do thier work. The last time this came up 2005, again the year before elections, what a coincidence!
If you want to be patriotic write the honorable congressmen in the Judiciary committee. They are up for re-election and you can be sure the media mafia has contributed to their re-election campaign.
These sites will help if you wish to rattle some cages!
http://judiciary.house.gov/CommitteeMembership.aspx
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/findyourreps.xpd
http://www.whitepages.com/person
http://www.house.gov/writerep/
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16. November 2007 @ 08:15 |
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Pressing for a change to the Law, Leahy has said that, "...... they were Limited to bringing criminal charges with high burdens of proof."
His point is quite understandable, nobody wants the fact that they have no []proof[/b], to get in the way of a good conviction .. :D
Finding offenders could become (a lot) easier (just open the Police Station doors, and grab the first ten/twenty/ whatever, passing by), and the convictions could go through the roof ..
Only in American eh M8s .. lol
Procode ..
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16. November 2007 @ 11:27 |
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Oh, this may be part of the impetus behind this possible law. Warner Music stock was down-graded to a sell this month. Not only do they have the pirate problem but what really has the market scared is that some of the artists are dropping the media mafia and selling their own music. Some how, they did not buy the report from Warner Music that the move was an abysmal failure. The average sale price per album sold by voluntary payment was way less than what a CD would sell for in a store. But because they keep most of the profit, Radiohead made more not less money on the sales. It is a no-brainer that more big name artists will follow Radiohead and Madonna?s lead. They can take the high road and make money at the same time.
If you sell the quality music for a fair price people will buy it.
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16. November 2007 @ 16:19 |
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The Mafiaa must really be getting desperate to by off a Texas and a Vermont Senator now. All the Congressman and Senators from California can't get the job done for them so they have to go outside the state. What is suprising to me though is that the Vermont dude is a democrat while the other is a republican, mark this on your calender folks, someone from both parties working together, now we just need to get them working together on something worthwhile.
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16. November 2007 @ 21:13 |
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:)
I can't wait until we win. It will be even funnier considering the fact they have tried so hard to stop it from happening.
(i am pro-kill riaa, in case my post did not reflect so)
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17. November 2007 @ 14:38 |
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There is nothing wrong with living in the shadows. :)
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18. November 2007 @ 05:01 |
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["They will get the FBI, CIA and NSA to bug the entire phones monitor the email and anything else they need to rid the USA of pirates."- MEZ]Is it just paranoia on my part, but when I saw that sentence from MEZ, if this has not been said or thought of before, here, it seems that what is going on is one more way to monitor communications of private citizens without any protocols or restrictions in place. Our rights freedoms and privileges are in serious erosion and it seems to be a hell of lot bigger than the ripping/burning/"pirating" that is being used for the cause of war of sorts on the private tax paying citizen. The Governnment is not wasting, but is using our money AGAINST us in what appears to me to restriction and containment....restriction of open, free unmonitored commuication[exchange of information and dialogue which could include among other things the government's performance or lack of performance for legal taxpaying people and their dependents].. containment, restrict mobility(via higher fuel costs) of the population[not just traveling to see "Aunt May" or the Grand Canyon, but maybe to prevent significant amounts of people(i.e. Kings I got dream speech in front of the Lincoln Memorial) from physically appearing at the doorsteps of politicians. If food, fuel and housing continue to be a problem, for us the general populus, we will be to busy fighting and stealing from each other(remember the Gas Shortage about 25-30 years ago?) to notice or deal with local, state and federal governments stealing and double dealing our society away. I don't care where you live, watch how taxes keep increasing, but the revenue isn't being used for the targeted purpose, but watch in the meantime how politicians are directly and indirectly lining their pockets while your pockets and wallets are becoming leaner. The L.A. City Council voted itself a retroactive June payraise increases from a low of $170K to $200k per year. Revenues are down, there are fiscal problems aplenty and they voted and took the money. In previous years, L.A. city was getting revenues from an illegal phone tax. Now they are trying to b.s. the voters with another revenue gainer for ballot...and I don't live in Los Angeles. I ask forgiveness of this forum for my apparent ramblings, but if "piracy" was the only problem we have, then we really would not have any problems. But I am tired of us taxpayers being held accountable,blamed or lied to(depending on the subject)about; fuel guzzling vehicles, "Jobs that Americans Won't Do"(Bush finally quit repeating that lie as much)the Ozone, Global Warming, need of taxpayer financing to oil companies for research. Have you payed attention to how much food, grain, medicine and herbal production is being produced outside the U.S. and the lack of quality control on said items? But if you make candles, come out with a water recyling system or manufacture some type of consumer goods in your garage you better have governmental approval or you are trouble. To quote a leader of band of bad guys in an old movie, just before descending on a peaceful, idyllic town: "If they weren't meant to be sheep, they would not have been meant to be shorn". Hmmmmm!
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Mez
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20. November 2007 @ 09:32 |
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TRAVELMGR, I was a little toung & cheek about the CIA and NSA but I would guess the optimum law would monitor all sources of communication. The law makers are already talking about defining privacy for the patriot act. They want to collect information from all types of communication. The problem is, serious wrong doers will not be sending their plans in an email or on the phone. We are just giving up our privacy for nothing.
The targets of the anti-piracy have been mostly parents who have provided their children a computer and internet access to help educate them. Their crime is not being computer savy enough to monitor what applications are on the computer and recognise when one of over a dozen P2P software packages are on the computer.
The law makers should spend their time trying to help our nation before it goes down the tubes. Most of this downward trend has been created by them making bad laws because some special interest group paid them to pass the law. On average, our cars use more gas than they did in the 1980s. The US is getting so weak that the Euro will become the new world currency. Still our law makers are doing business as usual.
I hope you wrote our senator to give him a blast.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 20. November 2007 @ 09:37
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1. December 2007 @ 17:51 |
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this will go back and forth and many changes will be made before anything substantional happens.
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31. January 2008 @ 15:40 |
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Today is 013108mst 88045USA and the website in issue has ceased download and directs to its purchase. I looked around for it at the Legislature Law Forum, and found nothing.
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Mez
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1. February 2008 @ 07:24 |
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rrsvt, the radiohead giveaway only lasted a month or two. The full stats are in. Even though the music industry claimed the sale/giveaway was a disaster, radiohead claimed they averaged $6 per almum and kept nearly all that money. The sale of that CD during the year sold more CDs than any other. I am sure the industry would have loved to have a disaster like that.
Our liberties are being fought for as I write! Bush wanted to cram a bill through the senate that would abolish privacy rights for US citizens. Warrents would have been a thing of the past except for a physical search. He was able to ram it past the house but the senate got lots of nasty grams an figured it was safe to hold the line.
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