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Despite Bourne, Blu-ray still wins week
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article published on 28 December, 2007
After taking a week off for the holiday season, the official HD disc sales data are in from Nielsen VideoScan, and the results are not surprising.
Despite very strong sales of the HD DVD-exclusive "Bourne Ultimatum", Blu-ray won the week ending December 16th by a 61:39 margin. "Ultimatum" outsold Blu-ray's best title, "POTC: At World's End" by an almost 2:1 ratio, but Amazon's Blu-ray ... [ read the full article ]
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Damn it. Im tired fo this. The article says Blu Ray still sold more than Hd dvd this week, here comes the fanatism yelling yeah but Sony this Sony that Sony's evil and Toshiba... give it a rest already. Panasonic got more patents we all know that. And also Disney and Fox support it so why I dont see people saying their just as evil as well? It gets tiring after a while to read the same thing over and over of how Sony's got an evil anti consumer plan and got such a tight grip in hollywood that it deliberatly 'forced' Fox, Disney, Apple, Panasonic and all the blu ray exclusives companies, to just release films on Blu Ray...
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30. December 2007 @ 07:35 |
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The public domain is a disgrace to the forces of evil says, SONY, DISNEY AND FOX! lets DRM everything and claim rights for 170 years so our culture does not advance unless we get PAID!
Originally posted by nextgen76:
Originally posted by 26r0cK:
Since there's so many BOGO wit blu-ray you'd probably think that maybe the price of one Blu-ray movie is actually the amount of 2. So really a Blu-ray movie is about $15 a piece. Producing disc isnt too expensive. and if that were tru then HD-DVD had be rippin many ppl off witout offering alot of BOGO til now lol. Just my thought ehehe XD
Lets not forget the week Bourne & Harry Potter launched they both was included for HD-DVD bogo sell & HD-DVD still didn't outsell BD that week minus no BD bogo that week, how much more does Warner & Universal need to make the switch.
lets not forget that >7 million drm-ray players, vs <1 million hd-dvd players and there is only a 60/40 split in sold media nextgen.
imho, both formats should be allowed to continue with studios being forced to make titles equally on both formats and let the public decide not sony and the other DRM loving MPAA, drm-ray supporters
@ jove
FTW = for the win, its mmorpg txt chat but it makes newbs fell like 1337 sauce. (you ever tried googling things)
re: sony evil, sony, disney and fox are the leading companies pushing propertarian, orwellian, anti consumer DRM lockouts and have the most lobbyists pushing congress to tighten the IP laws (DMCA), abolish fair use, criminalise ppl that use or even own software to circumnavigate any form of DRM and protect them from law suits when they run code on ppl's computers that cause damage and threaten your privacy by reporting information back to sony HQ about your computer usage (google: sony xcp).
sony, disney and fox are the MPAA they use piracy to scare monger ppl then make DRM secuROM, xcp and sell it to movie/game/cd makers and get paid from all sides and get fat while its the consumers that lose out as we are told we are pirates by sony for wanting to play our legally purchased cd's on our ipods because sony want 1 licence per device per user to quadruple their profits from each household, kinda like the military industrial complex.
Sony BMG's chief anti-piracy lawyer: "Copying" music you own is "stealing" October 02, 2007
funny look on copywrite:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJn_jC4FNDo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKI_w_VBoTQ
http://www.boingboing.net/2007/12/29/steal-this-film-part.html
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Originally posted by nobrainer:
sony, disney and fox are the MPAA they use piracy to scare monger ppl then make DRM secuROM, xcp and sell it to movie/game/cd makers and get paid from all sides and get fat while its the consumers that lose out as we are told we are pirates by sony for wanting to play our legally purchased cd's on our ipods because sony want 1 licence per device per user to quadruple their profits from each household, kinda like the military industrial complex.
Sony BMG's chief anti-piracy lawyer: "Copying" music you own is "stealing" October 02, 2007
funny look on copywrite:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJn_jC4FNDo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKI_w_VBoTQ
http://www.boingboing.net/2007/12/29/ste...rt.html
- Nice Post.
Too true & very well put nobrainer .
The fact that the PS3/Blu-ray fanclub (cos they have been pulling this kind of sh*t with games on the game console too) refuse to even admit or see this (or, worse, will actually soft-soap & excuse it) and still claim to prefer the (by far) worst case of the 2 competing new high def formats is IMO simply staggering.
The DRM issues alone are IMO a huge reason to have nothing to do with Blu-ray.
HD DVD is by no means perfect either but with AACS broken (and reputedly broken to the extent that any new revisions & changes to it are no longer a problem) it is by far the 'better' of the 2.
The fanclub pretend that this kind of thing will only effect 'pirates' which is, of course, utterly crazy - particularly seeing as how their beloved CE company is staffed, run & directed by the kind of pedantic 'all-legalese-and-zero-common-sense' lunatics who effectively think we are all 'pirates.
But naturally they have nothing but empty platitudes when legitimate owners have 'issues' when equipment that isn't recognised by the current various 'security system' firmwares and so the DRM/'security' stops you using your 100% legally owned stuff.
It's bad enough having the loonies in the CE companies developing and implementing this sh*t without their fanclub actually cheering it on.
It's absolute insanity.
(or rather it would be it wasn't for the fact that some of the fanclub at least are nothing of the sort but are simply here - and in various other places - to try and shape opinion and play-down any awkward comments/stories about their employer......if you really think that's too far-fetched then check out 'phase hydra' and see the ridiculous levels to which those guys have stooped)
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As a person who supports both formats (I've got a PS3 and a HD DVD player), I don't see the problem with both of them beating the hell out of 1 another for the benefit of the consumer. I'll take a cheaper product if they fight it out to the bitter end and I hope they do. Why does it matter who really wins as long as the consumer wins in the end?
Both formats have pros and cons, but that's with everything. The average consumer who buys this stuff doesn't give a damn about the evil corporation behind it. Given half the chance, each corporation would fleece you and have you thrown in jail if you told them that they were backing up their movies. But, it's odd since Sony has the hard protection (BD+), that a lot of people are attacking them and saying they're unfair. Unfair is backing up a title from a video store or selling copies of the movie. Protecting your property is quite fair.
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Originally posted by Franster:
The average consumer who buys this stuff doesn't give a damn about the evil corporation behind it.
- True......right up until that CE corp's layers of pointless 'security' means that they have 'issues' with their own bought and paid for pieces of equipment not working properly with each other.
It's a scam, a gravy-train of BS making some people $ millions and shafting the paying punters.
From HDCP monitors that aren't recognised to general software conflicts to easily defeated and then repeatedly reworked 'security', it's all just anti-consumer BS which in the end is unnecessary and ineffective (it just pi$$es off the consumer, the real industrial 'pirates' got around it all long ago).
.....and what about when they expect you to buy new 'keys' after they stop supplying them FOC, hmmmmm?
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BD-MV playback at HD quality has very strict copy protection integrated and managed by the Advanced
Access Content System License Administrator (AACS LA), and software manufacturers are required to
include the AACS key management in the play back software.
These AACS play back keys are only valid for a predefined and limited period of time. Customers
generally have to buy new AACS keys every 15 months.
With the Plextor PX-B900A/T3KB the customer can playback BD movies produced until April 2009.
To play back movies produced after April 2009, the customer has to purchase a renewal of the key.
http://www.plextor.be/press/datasheets/Plextor_AACS.pdf
Not so many people have woken up to this & are clued in to this yet but if Blu-ray wins this little tussle you better get used to it.
Originally posted by Franster:
Given half the chance, each corporation would fleece you and have you thrown in jail if you told them that they were backing up their movies.
- Well actually that's not right.
Look at what Warner have been saying lately about how DRM is a counter-productive waste of money and their moves to sell DRM-free music on Amazon.
Originally posted by Franster:
But, it's odd since Sony has the hard protection (BD+), that a lot of people are attacking them and saying they're unfair.
- It's a purpose designed POS software (with the possibility of infinite variation & rebuilding) coming from Sony (with their track-record).
Yeah, imagine anyone questioning them and that.
Originally posted by Franster:
Unfair is backing up a title from a video store or selling copies of the movie.
- If only it were that simple.
Drop the "selling" part.
Then drop the copying movies out of a rental store
(who on earth still uses them anyways?)
I don't know anyone who sells copies and I've never sold a copy I've made in my life (and nor do I intend to either).
The only people I know of doing that are not paying customers like maybe you or I but the sort of guys who sell at flea-markets or in bars.
DRM isn't stopping them and pi$$ing me off in a futile attempt to do so is IMO BS.
As far as I'm concerned that is all absurd misdirection anyways, they know the serious 'industrial pirates' are not affected one little bit, it's the likes of you and me that are the real ones who get affected, everytime.
The sad truth is that as far as the nutter element goes "backing up" a copy of what you already own is considered theft - as nobrainer's links show only too clearly.
It's like cops going after the very easy pickings.
It does nothing to stop the serious crimes but it looks good to the people who frame the laws, set targets and do their little charts.
I mind that sort of BS, maybe you don't?
Originally posted by Franster:
Protecting your property is quite fair.
- Of course it is.
The problem arises over what constitutes 'my property'.
Unless you're one of those DRM/security obsessed nutters who consider that any copy (for "protecting my - bought & paid for - property", right?) is a genuine case of theft.
Those nutcases have no concept (despite pretending otherwise) of either 'fair use' or 'managed copy'.
Every copy is 'theft' according to them.
That's what we're up against and I'm afraid that anyone wheedling around in circles trying to justify this lunacy for those greedy b@stards just isn't convincing anyone.
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And they say the war will be over soon. With a 60:40 split there's still a compelling reason to keep on fighting.
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@ hughjars
RE: warner dropping DRM:
You forget that sony make many forms of DRM and sell it to these companies, where as Warner do not. Sony also a member of AASC LA stand to gain from the resale of aacs HeX codes and with the hacks destroying it even before release expect new codes every 90 days, and if you fail to update your hardware you will be blocked from all media from that point in time onwards!
AACS, HDMI HCDP and DB+ are the answer to the net problem that is impossible to stop so they are going to put DRM into all our hardware making all media content incompatible unless it has their watermark on it.
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YAWN!..............
lol this is too funny! the same argument EVERY Blu Ray vs HD DVD article! same excuses on both sides! someone works figures 1 say some one else looks @ them another then someone brings PS3 & Xbox in . lol it is just funny! I have an HD DVD player (friend got it) i will probobly have a Blu Ray player in the next year i don't care as long as i get my damn movie in HD!
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Top 10 Reasons to Buy Blu-ray
Are you leaning Blu-ray or HD DVD in this brewing format war? These ten points make the case that Blu-ray is best.
December 05, 2007 | by Chuck McKenney
Blu-ray vs HD DVD remains one of the hottest topics in the world of consumer electronics. With both sides vying for the top spot, it?s become clear neither will quit until their format is deemed King of High-Def. This can be overwhelming to the average consumer. No one wants to invest in the format doomed for extinction. We reached out to the Blu-ray Disc Association and asked for ten reasons why Blu-ray is best. (In case you missed it, we did the same thing with HD DVD - ?Top 10 Reasons to Buy HD DVD?.)
1. Today?s best movies - With support from the 6 of the 8 major Hollywood studios, the biggest hits are on Blu-ray. Through October 2007, 19 of the year?s 20 best selling high definition movie titles are available on Blu-ray Disc - the majority of them available in high definition only on Blu-ray Disc. Titles such as 300, the Harry Potter Series, the Matrix Trilogy are just some of the titles currently available or coming soon to Blu-ray Disc. And, titles such as the Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer, the Spiderman Trilogy, Pirates of the Caribbean, Cars and Ratatouille are available in high definition only on Blu-ray Disc.
2. The broadest range in player options - The biggest names in consumer electronics, particularly in DVD and HDTV - Hitachi, LG, Panasonic, Philips, Pioneer, Samsung, Sharp and Sony - all support Blu-ray Disc, giving consumers a range of hardware choices from their favorite brands. HP, Acer, Sony VAIO, Panasonic, Philips and Pioneer offer consumers an array of desktop, notebook and computer drive choices.
3. Every Blu-ray Disc player delivers full 1080p picture quality, the benchmark for high definition.
4. Blu-ray delivers the best possible picture quality of any high definition source. Because of its superior storage capacity (50GB - 6 times more than dual-layer DVD), Blu-ray Disc can use higher bit rates, which allows pristine video, uncompromised audio quality, and compelling interactive features.
5. It sounds as spectacular as it looks. With support for the latest audio codecs, including Dolby TrueHD, DTS HD Master Audio and uncompressed linear PCM, Blu-ray can deliver true lossless audio so you hear every sound with crystal clarity.
December 05, 2007 | by Chuck McKenney
6. Blu-ray uses BD-J (BD-Java) to create a new entertainment experience. From pop-up and animated menus to picture-in-picture and interactive features right in the movie, Blu-ray brings a new dimension to home entertainment in a way that let?s viewers enjoy the features on their own terms. Enable them when you want to interact with your favorite film or save them for later when you just want to relax and enjoy the film.
7. Blu-ray?s capacity advantage means the high-quality that consumers demand from high definition can be maximized in every area. There is enough room on the disc for a full feature film with the best possible picture quality, 7.1 surround sound lossless audio (with multiple channels) and a host of bonus features, without having to sacrifice in one area to make room for another. And, 50GB is just the beginning. Blu-ray has room to grow as the creative community develops increasingly innovative (and space intensive) content and features.
8. Blu-ray gives gamers a big bang for their buck. Playstation 3 is the only gaming console built on a high definition platform, so every PS3 doubles as a Blu-ray player for your favorite high definition movie titles. With recent price drops and a host of new gaming titles scheduled for release, the PS3 is great for gamers as well as for those interested enjoying great high definition movies.
9. The discs can take a beating. Anyone with kids is painfully aware that DVDs are not always handled with care, causing potential damage and playability problems. Blu-ray Discs have a special hard coating that helps to protect discs from scratches, fingerprints and a myriad of other punishments that kids (and adults) can dish out.
10. Blu-ray is the safe buy. Counting set top players and PS3s, there are more than 3 million ?Blu-ray households? in North America alone, and this number grows on a daily basis. On the software side, Blu-ray Disc is the best selling high definition format in the United States by a margin of 2 to 1 thus far in 2007, with a similar sales advantage in Europe and an even greater advantage in Japan. Blu-ray Disc is the safe bet to become the successor to DVD.
Top 10 Reasons to Buy HD DVD
Have yet to pick a side in the Blu-ray/HD DVD format war? Here are ten reasons why you should go with HD DVD.
1. HD DVD offers the high-definition experience at the most affordable price?this holiday season HD DVD players start under $200 with seven free movies.
2. HD DVD boasts six times the resolution and pristine audio quality (up to 7.1 surround sound) compared with standard DVD.
3. A superior audio experience is guaranteed on every HD DVD player because of the format?s mandatory support for next-generation audio technology including Dolby Digital Plus and Dolby TrueHD. Even if your current home theater sound system doesn?t support the new audio technologies, you?ll still get the best quality audio experience on it because any HD DVD player can decode these codecs.
4. All HD DVD movies are encoded at 1080p so you can enjoy them on any 1080p HDTV or projector, even if you own a 1080i HD DVD player. How? Because the de-interlacing process that produces the ?full HD? 1080p picture quality of the source content is handled by the HDTV, rather than inside the player.
5. For gamers, Xbox 360 offers an affordable HD DVD player addition that can be found for as low $169, with at least six free HD DVD movies?one in the box and a mail-in offer for five free flicks.
6. Every HD DVD player is guaranteed to have picture-in-picture and content storage capabilities, along with an Internet connection to deliver innovative web-enabled features that connect your entertainment experience with online communities and special features.
7. Only HD DVD offers combo discs (standard DVD version on one side, high-def version on the other) that can be used in any DVD player throughout the house or even in the car.
8. Today there are close to 400 HD DVD movies to choose from, with titles like Transformers, Shrek 3, The Bourne Ultimatum, and a five-movie Harry Potter box set available this holiday. Some of the leading retailers have started to offer select titles for under $17.
9. You can get HD DVD on PC notebooks from Acer, HP, Gateway, and Toshiba with prices starting below $900. Product plans call for 5 million HD DVD-enabled notebooks expected in the market by the end of 2008.
10. HD DVD is the only next generation high-definition format approved by the DVD Forum, the same organization of companies that brought you the original DVD format.
http://www.electronichouse.com/article/t..._to_buy_blu_ray
HD-DVD point 2,4,5 are laughable.
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31. December 2007 @ 22:18 |
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@ NextGen76
What on earth does that post prove or add anything of value to this "conversation"?
If you think 2,4,and 5 are laughable for the HDDVD, what does that make all the other "claims" by the Blu Ray side?
That was the most useless and laughable post I have seen to date and shows your obvious bias.
I could care less which side "wins", I just don't understand why people act like they have some vested interest in making their choice be the one that wins.
I'm pulling for HD DVD, but if that doesn't happen, I'll still get up every morning and live my life. I suggest many should do the same already.
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Originally posted by stumpied:
@ NextGen76
What on earth does that post prove or add anything of value to this "conversation"?
If you think 2,4,and 5 are laughable for the HDDVD, what does that make all the other "claims" by the Blu Ray side?
That was the most useless and laughable post I have seen to date and shows your obvious bias.
I could care less which side "wins", I just don't understand why people act like they have some vested interest in making their choice be the one that wins.
I'm pulling for HD DVD, but if that doesn't happen, I'll still get up every morning and live my life. I suggest many should do the same already.
I don't see anywhere on this tread were you added anything of value but your ranting & raving this is a Forum.If i was trying to be bias why would i add HD-DVD.This was nothing more than info that was given to that site from each format.Life has nothing to do about posting in a discussion forum its you that need to first learn what a forum is for Second put a hand brake over your mouth before you talk.
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If you're not bias or at least don't want to appear so, then why not point out the laughable points about the BD "superior storage capacity" or the bluray "safe buy" claims? What happens when all those players that are not profile 1.1 compliant are rendered useless?
Just cause you don't see me post a million times don't think i'm not knowledgable on the subject.
I just refrain from posting the same garbage over and over like some people every time they see an article with the words HD DVD or Blu Ray in the title.
To each their own though. . .keep posting what you wish.
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F.. or T .. he .. W .. in :lol:
regardless.. hd is still for richs c**** so 95% of the planet really don't give a f***
+140 rp to varnull...
just gotta say.. that's still by far the best sig image on AD
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I am so sick and tired of this Blue Ray vs. HD DVD bullshit. From what I remember I bought my HDTV for the enhanced look of my video games not movies. My regular DVDs play fine and are a whole lot cheaper. I already where glasses so why the hell would I be worried about watching an HD movie. But if I had to choose then I'd rather choose Toshiba's HD DVD over Sony's Blue Ray any day. I just can't support those money grubbing bastards over at Sony.
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Wow, I've seen some lame claims in this 'debate' but that little list has to be one of the most laughable.
We're now just a few days away from the start of the end of all this.
Even Sony et al are winding down the rhetoric - and that ought to be indication enough that they know there is bad news coming for them.
Note the Fox senior exec who said after CES 2008 there would be one high def format.
Here is the quote -
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?The table is probably set for high-def in 2008,? says Dunn. ?I think by CES it will be pretty clear there will be one format.?
http://www.variety.com/VR1117977725.html
Note that even tho he is a Fox exec he does not go on to claim that single format would be Blu-ray.
That ought to be hint enough of some of the surprises we have in store during CES 2008 & in the 1st half of 2008 (some deals will not 'go live' until later in the year).
Tough luck Blu-ray/PS3 fans, it's HD DVD that is firmly coming through now.
The decisions have been made and the deals done and it's not looking good for Blu-ray
(no matter how much you want to whine about the retail movie disc sales situation during 2007).
I'm really looking forward to discussing the CES news when it breaks!
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I've said it before and I'll say it again...........
BOTH FORMATS ARE DEFINITIVELY HERE TO STAY FOR GOOD PEOPLE!!! Get ready to buy either 1. a blu-ray AND HD-DVD player or 2. a dual format player.
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I don't see any way possible how HD-DVD could win this format "war".It's supported by basically one company. It takes triple layer discs to compete with a dual layer. It has few good exclusives. They're outsold every week. There are far more BR players in homes. I could go on and on with just this basic stuff. I've even noticed that every store I've been to(Wal-Marts, Targets, Futureshops, Best Buys, ect.) have a much larger selection of Blu-Ray titles and few HD-DVD titles.
The only thing going for them is lower production costs, but that's made up for by Blu-ray selling more and more titles.
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Originally posted by vinny13:
I don't see any way possible how HD-DVD could win this format "war".It's supported by basically one company. It takes triple layer discs to compete with a dual layer. It has few good exclusives. They're outsold every week. There are far more BR players in homes. I could go on and on with just this basic stuff. I've even noticed that every store I've been to(Wal-Marts, Targets, Futureshops, Best Buys, ect.) have a much larger selection of Blu-Ray titles and few HD-DVD titles.
The only thing going for them is lower production costs, but that's made up for by Blu-ray selling more and more titles.
Bingo ! my friend, i have notice that best buy has put out a notice to all BB store to increase there BD section maybe they know something that we don't.While HD-DVD section don't even cover a half.
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Ya around here they have their own Blu-Ray display stands with little TVs talking about it and it also has just a few HD-DVDs on them because they had nowhere else to put them. The ratio in these stores are like 6:1.
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Whatever!, Blu-ray is technologically superior to HD-DVD but they're both extremely COMPARABLE to the practical implementation of the end-user. The end-user wouldn't and shouldn't give a sh*t as long as the format has a large capacity, displays HD in 1080 and is supported for a long time. IF the end-user DOES CARE then they're just being a pain in the ass and looking to pick a fight and bitch about something............which is really nothing.
There are only about 60-70 more titles on Blu-ray than on HD-DVD and both formats have awesome movies. Granted, the selection on one may appeal to the masses a bit more, but this just goes without saying. HD-DVD is much more aggressive in it's marketing campaign and as I said ..............BOTH FORMATS ARE HERE TO STAY BOYS AND GIRLS!!!!
This is not a re-creation of the VHS/BETA issue. Similar but not the same. Now it's effortless to make a hardware player play both formats and thus an easy solution is totally tangible, in fact, PRACTICAL.
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Oh........and that whole list is laughably stupid, just like the list creator is I'm sure.
Top 10 reasons to buy HD-DVD??
Gimme an F'en break. None on that list give a reason to buy HD-DVD over Blu-ray so what's the F'en point of making that list. That name should be changed to "Top 10 reasons to go HD" ....................DUMBASS!
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Blah Blah Blah....!!! Here we go with idiots arguing on the net again. Point blank CDs are CDs, DVDs are DVDs, etc. I don't give a crap about the format war. As far as I'm concerned you 2 are arguing about a bunch of nothing. Let me put my point across plain and simple.....whether its dvd, hd dvd, or blu ray it's the same movie. Even the old movies remade into the new formats are the same damn movie. Is HD technology for movies a waste of time...yes (in my opinion). It's like watching porn on regular DVD and then watching it in HD..... I can care less about the freckles on her hooters....the point is that it's still a damn recognizable pair of big hooters that turn me on. You guys are arguing like you could recognize a bad boob job in hd or blu ray. My God!!!!
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Dave Vaughn leaked the Nielsen numbers again this time at HD digest:
http://forums.highdefdigest.com/showthread.php?t=31587&page=77
For the week ending December 30, 2007:
BluRay - 61
HD DVD - 39
For the third week in a row it's 61:39 in favor of BluRay. That makes it a 2007 sweep for BluRay.
What surprised me is that even with the first 2 spots on the weekly Top 5 PLUS the big amazon HD DVD BOGO PLUS the Best Buy 3 for 2 deal, HD DVD couldn't muster a win.
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The Kingdom
The Bourne Ultimatum
POTC 3
Simpsons Movie
Rush Hour 3
I guess Dave was correct in suggesting that amazon doesn't move as much HDM numbers as B&M stores thus the limited effect of the BOGO.
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At a later post Dave gave out the week's numbers for HP5 and PE.
Harry Potter & the Order of the Phoenix
Blu - 58
HD - 42
Planet Earth
Blu - 56
HD - 44
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eatsushi
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4. January 2008 @ 10:47 |
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Originally posted by juankerr:
For the week ending December 30, 2007:
BluRay - 61
HD DVD - 39
For the third week in a row it's 61:39 in favor of BluRay. That makes it a 2007 sweep for BluRay.
Actually it's 54 weeks straight for BD including the last 2 weeks of 2006
Originally posted by juankerr:
What surprised me is that even with the first 2 spots on the weekly Top 5 PLUS the big amazon HD DVD BOGO PLUS the Best Buy 3 for 2 deal, HD DVD couldn't muster a win.
I have a couple of theories:
1. The catalog titles on BluRay are selling extremely well. This negates the strong 1st week sales of The Kingdom and 2nd/3rd week sales of Bourne Ultimatum.
2. A lot of people got PS3's or BD standalones for Christmas and the new PS3 owners are using them to watch BD movies.
I also agree with Dave's theory that amazon's numbers, even with their BOGO's, may not be large enough to sway the Neilsen's. It'll be interesting to see the catalog sales numbers in the next issue of HMM.
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juankerr
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4. January 2008 @ 13:15 |
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Interesting theories, eatsushi.
Dave also leaked the Top 20 overall bestsellers:
http://forums.highdefdigest.com/showthread.php?t=31587&page=93
1. 300 Blu-ray
2. TRANSFORMERS HD-DVD
3. POTC AT WORLDS END Blu-ray
4. CASINO ROYALE Blu-ray
5. PLANET EARTH HD DVD
6. BOURNE ULTIMATUM HD DVD
7. 300 HD DVD
8. SPIDER MAN 3 Blu-ray
9. PLANET EARTH Blu-ray
10. RATATOUILLE Blu-ray
11. POTC DEAD MANS CHEST Blu-ray
12. DEPARTED Blu-ray
13. HARRY POTTER ORDER OF THE PHOENIX Blu-ray
14. POTC BLACK PEARL Blu-ray
15. LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD Blu-ray
16. BATMAN BEGINS HD-DVD
17. APOCALYPTO Blu-ray
18. HP ORDER OF THE PHOENIX HD DVD
19. FF2 RISE OF SILVER SURFER Blu-ray
20. SIMPSONS MOVIE Blu-ray
Only six of the top 20 are HD DVD - 3 exclusive and 3 dual format.
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