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Warner Bros. goes Blu-ray
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article published on 4 January, 2008
According to an announcement by Barry Meyer, Chairman and CEO of Warner Bros., the studio has decided to throw its support behind Blu-ray beginning in May 2008 meaning it will no longer be dual format.
"Warner Bros.' move to exclusively release in the Blu-ray disc format is a strategic decision focused on the long term and the most direct way to give consumers what they want," explained ... [ read the full article ]
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glasssd
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4. January 2008 @ 21:59 |
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Everybody wait. Hug says it aint over. Business as usual. Nothing to see here, Nothing to see here. This is just a 12 inch flesh woond to the throat.
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vinny13
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4. January 2008 @ 22:03 |
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Originally posted by glasssd:
Everybody wait. Hug says it aint over. Business as usual. Nothing to see here, Nothing to see here. This is just a 12 inch flesh woond to the throat.
Woah that's a long neck...
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4. January 2008 @ 22:04 |
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50>30 why is so hard to understand
it doens't mather if movies are only 25 probably in a couple of years they will be 35 and that's when every blu-ray user will say i told u so!
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4. January 2008 @ 22:09 |
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Originally posted by glasssd:
Everybody wait. Hug says it aint over. Business as usual. Nothing to see here, Nothing to see here. This is just a 12 inch flesh woond to the throat.
Meh its a bad sign but not the end still not ready to buy since BR is still buggy and doesn't have all the movies on it yet.
Originally posted by chaos_zzz:
50>30 why is so hard to understand
it doens't mather if movies are only 25 probably in a couple of years they will be 35 and that's when every blu-ray user will say i told u so!
mainly because they have 2-5X as many players out.
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elfman12
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4. January 2008 @ 22:12 |
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Originally posted by chaos_zzz:
50>30 why is so hard to understand
it doens't mather if movies are only 25 probably in a couple of years they will be 35 and that's when every blu-ray user will say i told u so!
Sadly, the above sort of "thinking" is what is being rewarded in this deal. Really sad.
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4. January 2008 @ 22:20 |
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Originally posted by hughjars:
An 18mth deal for $450 million is what I've seen quoted as the pay-off, $70 million more than HD DVD offered.
Don't even try it that has been shot down already.I see you haven't been keeping up with the news since they drop this at 4pm est.
Originally posted by hughjars:
But it isn't over.
There may well be other moves at CES 2008 which favour HD DVD
(the rumour is of perhaps 2 Blu-ray exclusive studios going neutral).
Not a chance in hell i told you over a month ago that the best news you can hope for from CES08 is Warner staying neutral & that still hold true but there is more news because Newline will go exclsive also because they are own by Warner also.I hate to say i told you so.Lets not forget dimension films(The Weinstein Company) who said they was going to address there format issue during CES so count on them not being HD-DVD exclusive anymore.You have seen the Death Blow to HD-DVD.
Originally posted by Hughjars:
It's perfectly possible that Blu-ray could well have end up with some sort of a win against HD DVD but having lost the chance to become the next DVD.
Do count on it because it was HD-DVD that was looking pass BD always talking about taking on the SD-DVD market but this isn't going to be a War or a battle.Because there going to be a slow movement toward Blu-Ray just like DVD did VHS.The most important part is done Blu-Ray is going to be the next format weather people embrace it or not we will see.Because it isn't going to be HD-DVD.So much for Blu-Ray being a gaming format like you said.
I told you that CE don't look a BS PR spins on attachment rates they look at software & hardware sells money talks.
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4. January 2008 @ 22:48 |
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where's hughjars?lmao.i thought there was gonna be a HUGE ANNOUNCEMENT AT CES FOR HD-DVD.lol its over.blu-ray wins then ps3 wins because of blu-ray integrated player.lmao suckers who bought hd-dvd players.
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juankerr
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4. January 2008 @ 22:48 |
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Originally posted by hughjars:
There may well be other moves at CES 2008 which favour HD DVD
(the rumour is of perhaps 2 Blu-ray exclusive studios going neutral).
This is highly doubtful since the HD DVD Promotion Group has just officially postponed (cancelled?) their 2-hour CES Press event at the Wynn.
http://wesleytech.com/ces-hd-dvd-event-c...nouncement/483/
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CES HD DVD Event canceled due to Warner announcement
I just received an email from the HD DVD Promotion Group stating that the CES 2008 HD DVD press event has been canceled. The recent Blu-ray exclusive announcement from Warner is cited as the reason for the event being canceled. You can find the full text of the notice below.
Notice of CES Press Conference Cancellation by North American HD DVD Promotion Group
?Based on the timing of the Warner Home Video announcement today, we have decided to postpone our CES 2008 press conference scheduled for Sunday, January 6th at 8:30 p.m. in the Wynn Hotel. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.
We are currently discussing the potential impact of this announcement with the other HD DVD partner companies and evaluating next steps. We believe the consumer continues to benefit from HD DVD?s commitment to quality and affordability ? a bar that is critical for the mainstream success of any format.
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4. January 2008 @ 22:54 |
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Originally posted by hughjars:
There may well be other moves at CES 2008 which favour HD DVD
(the rumour is of perhaps 2 Blu-ray exclusive studios going neutral).
This is highly doubtful since the HD DVD Promotion Group has just officially cancelled their 2-hour CES Press event at the Wynn.
http://wesleytech.com/ces-hd-dvd-event-c...nouncement/483/
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CES HD DVD Event canceled due to Warner announcement
I just received an email from the HD DVD Promotion Group stating that the CES 2008 HD DVD press event has been canceled. The recent Blu-ray exclusive announcement from Warner is cited as the reason for the event being canceled. You can find the full text of the notice below.
Notice of CES Press Conference Cancellation by North American HD DVD Promotion Group
?Based on the timing of the Warner Home Video announcement today, we have decided to postpone our CES 2008 press conference scheduled for Sunday, January 6th at 8:30 p.m. in the Wynn Hotel. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.
We are currently discussing the potential impact of this announcement with the other HD DVD partner companies and evaluating next steps. We believe the consumer continues to benefit from HD DVD?s commitment to quality and affordability ? a bar that is critical for the mainstream success of any format.
They made this meeting almost a month ago so im guessing that they didn't know what format there was going to support.I think this decision was just made by Warner & not been made months ago.
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4. January 2008 @ 22:57 |
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@Ludikhris
Enough with the personal attacks.
It really boggles my mind why these news articles on the Blu-ray vs. HD DVD get so heated so let's take it down a notch and be civil.
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Xian
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4. January 2008 @ 23:08 |
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What irritates me is the timing of this announcement. It shows very little concern for your customer's interest to make this decision public just barely over a week after Christmas. How many people got HD DVD players for a present which now has the very real potential to be obsolete? They should have said something before the holiday.
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redux79
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4. January 2008 @ 23:31 |
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here's what killed hd-dvd.....PIRATES
Unfortunately that seems to be the case. Studios want the most aggressive, virulent, threatening drm in existence to protect their content. Instead of being consumer friendly they want protection that has the ability to disable devices when tampered with.
Well if this truly is the beginning of the end for hd dvd I can only hope that slysoft doubles their efforts to permanently break bd+ and keep sony on their toes. Just think of all the pissed off hd-dvd owners out their... now they have a collective goal.
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glasssd
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4. January 2008 @ 23:47 |
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Originally posted by Xian:
What irritates me is the timing of this announcement. It shows very little concern for your customer's interest to make this decision public just barely over a week after Christmas. How many people got HD DVD players for a present which now has the very real potential to be obsolete? They should have said something before the holiday.
Im a Blu owner but I have to agree with you. A lot of people kinda wasted some money. At least WB did not do like Paramont and quit cold turkey. WB will support hd dvd through May. The hd dvd player can still up-convert. Not a total loss. Im just glad that I wont get sucked into anymore stupid arguments from someone here.
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5. January 2008 @ 00:20 |
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I totally agree Redux. I've heard a lot of users saying "I won't buy this because DRM is anticonsumer. The problem is that DRM is pro-dev. So studios will want to develop where the content is more protected. Where the content is the consumers will follow. The very small amount of people that truly care about DRM will be outnumbered by those that buy their media from outlets and use it as intended.
My only concern is I will have to remain with DVDs to get my content from disc to iPod. I won't pay twice. The studios should fix this.
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M4DHATT3R
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5. January 2008 @ 00:23 |
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I'm not a HD-DVD nor a Blu-Ray fan/fanboy but have always stated that if all studios supported both formats and drop the prices of stand-alone players then a true winner would emerge a lot quicker than the way the "war" has been fought thus far. Let the people decide which way they want to go instead of the studios deciding for us. It sucks for fans of one format over the other that can't get certain titles that they might want b/c the studio is on the "other camp". Because of this reason I'll gladly stick to regular "old" DVD for now.
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oscarin
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5. January 2008 @ 00:29 |
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When is Bill Gates stepping in? I mean if sony is behind BR with the ps3 BR drive built in why not an Xbox with a HD Dvd drive built in and make some kill, i dont see how having 2 formats is good for competition, it only brings confusion, competition the way i see it is having one format so everybody can enjoy the technology and the common people can buy the hardware making no mistake about it, while the studios kill themselves in order to give us good quality movies, desirable set boxes, trilogies, discs with collectible items, movie memorabilia, studios giving us movies with subtitles and audio track choices, featurettes, interactive stuff, special software, games relative to the movie or whatever, just my 2 cents.
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5. January 2008 @ 00:34 |
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**clear throat** um hughjars told me they were going HD-DVD exclusive, lol, i knew this would happen, another step closer to blu-ray being the winner and the new standard.
Peace
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camaro17
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5. January 2008 @ 00:37 |
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hughjars, i dont hate you nor do i not like you, i respect that you stick up for your chosen format, but i would recommend that you do not post in this thread, it will save alot of flaming and fighting, so for your own sake man, stay out.
Peace man
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vinny13
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5. January 2008 @ 01:02 |
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Originally posted by camaro17:
hughjars, i dont hate you nor do i not like you, i respect that you stick up for your chosen format, but i would recommend that you do not post in this thread, it will save alot of flaming and fighting, so for your own sake man, stay out.
Peace man
Ya wheew... You should pack up and leave town for a while... 'Think some things over :P
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Pain_Man
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5. January 2008 @ 01:04 |
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First thing: Seagrave you have GOT to learn some basic economics. Everything you said shows a breathtaking ignorance of the market economy (that you used the "term" capitalism shows just how lacking your economic education is; the days of the individual "capitalist" passed long ago, before 1800...)
In my opinion, if the format war isn't solved, the entire business model of selling consumers small, plastic discs may become obsolete.
If and when truly high speed 'Net connections become available (say 10MB/s download speed and up), movies will be downloaded either to PC or to a set-top Tivo-like box.
The days of entertainment delivered via objects is on a short road (more or less) to extinction. High speed delivery is the future.
I just bought a Toshiba HD-DVD player (the AD-30 unit) right before Christmas. I had been considering BR, but problems with BD+, as well as the inclusion of Region Coding and problems with the specs led me to go HDDVD.
While I'm disappointed with TimeWarner's decision (guess there'll be no HD-DVD versions of Lord of the Rings, :o( ), I'm glad TimeWarner released the "final" cut, 5-disc Blade Runner set on HD. (the reformatted version looks amazing, it simply pops off the screen).
My Toshiba unit's upconversion is fantastic. SDVDs look a lot better. I admit that I was skeptical about the whole up-conversion thing, but it really does work.
I agree with the one studio exec who remarked that most people aren't going to replace SDVDs with hi-def discs. And he's right. I'm not going to run out and buy every Coen brothers' film on HiDef again. William H. Macy in 1080 (i or p) 600% clearer isn't going to make Fargo any funnier.
I would fret too much HD-DVD owners. Lower cost dual BR/HD units are supposed to be available the middle of this year. Thus, IF BR turns out to be the next "standard" (and I think that conclusion is premature--at best), dual players will ease the transition.
If, however, neither format manages to become the monopoly (perhaps a Coke-Pepsi siutation with a 70-30 market split), that is the best result for the consumer.
I almost bought BR because my daughter wanted a console system, so I was considering the PS3. However, I'm not really a console player (I have $3000 PC I built mostly with gaming in mind) and I've never liked Sony's creation of its own "DRM" (Arccos/Puppetlock) as well as the fiasco with "protected" CD-DAs that turned out to be total garbage.
Redux79 has got it right: the good folks at Slysoft have already defeated AACS (used by both HD & BR) as well as BR's region coding. Hopefully their software will soon be able to play back up copies on stand-alones, without the computer having to be attached to the HDTV (pls...correct me if I'm wrong).
Until the dust settles--if it ever does--on the "format war", those who chose HDDVD are not suckers yet. Toshiba's player is solid, the upconversion feature is 5-star. And many, many movies are available in the format and studios are still releasing titles.
HDDVD is far from dead. BR far from victorious.
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5. January 2008 @ 01:17 |
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Originally posted by camaro17:
hughjars, i dont hate you nor do i not like you, i respect that you stick up for your chosen format, but i would recommend that you do not post in this thread, it will save alot of flaming and fighting, so for your own sake man, stay out.
Peace man
Ya wheew... You should pack up and leave town for a while... 'Think some things over :P
lol man
Peace
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ringwar
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5. January 2008 @ 02:22 |
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Hughjars. This is what you get for talking on and on and on. I stay out of most of these threads because of you. I am happy you havn't decided to join this one. So when are you buying a blu-ray player. I suggest the S300. Mine works awesome. Better start offloading your hddvd's on ebay.
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sciascia
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5. January 2008 @ 02:39 |
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I agree that HD-DVD should not be counted out just yet, but this is a major major victory for the Blu-ray camp. Hopefully for HD-DVD, this doesn't start a domino like chain reaction among the major studios left backing them, or, like someone said before about cashing in your HD-DVDs on ebay, people don't start flooding ebay with sales of their HD-DVDs. I'd say the next three days are critical to HD-DVD's chances of overtaking SD-DVD as the new standard.
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5. January 2008 @ 03:08 |
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i agree with redux, this is all about drm (copy protection). the movie studios have people on the pay roll to come to sites just like this. ive also noticed that toshiba has had a burner and verbatim has had hd media for quite sometime but none are available for sale (here in the states). this makes me go hmmmmm. yes i think big buisness will make up our minds for us. the only way hddvd will stay alive is if they come out with a comparable or better copy protection than bd+.
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iamgq
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5. January 2008 @ 03:46 |
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HD DVD shoud offer 17 free car washes with the buy of one HD DVD, that will get people going...
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