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Sony and Toshiba execs comment on Warner Bros. decision at CES
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article published on 7 January, 2008
The biggest question at this year's Consumer Electronics Show (CES), which opened in Las Vegas today, is what Warner's decision to join the Blu-ray camp exclusively means. Based on predictions from industry analysts at the end of 2007 it means Blu-ray will become the dominant format by the end of 2008, but Akiyo Ozaka, president of Toshiba America Consumer Products, isn't so sure, and he ... [ read the full article ]
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7. January 2008 @ 20:52 |
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Originally posted by lxfactor:
ah hah rare fossil.. thats great =] but forreal.. blu ray isnt all bad.. you guys dont want it because it's harder to steal content? well i say thou shall not steal. =]
My point exactly.
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ddp
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7. January 2008 @ 21:04 |
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ali2007, lightning struck!!!
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7. January 2008 @ 22:11 |
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Originally posted by lxfactor:
blu ray isnt all bad.. you guys dont want it because it's harder to steal content? well i say thou shall not steal. =]
- .....and when the software and hardware you legitimately bought doesn't work because of conflicts, delays in updates and general incompatibility issues I'm sure you'll be thanking your lucky stars.
The problems with DRM & 'security' are far broader than a rather ludicrously childish & naive 'if you aren't doing anything wrong you've nothing to worry about' Pollyanna version of reality.
Come on, wise up.
The truth is that those "pirates" (that is the real industrial money-making pirates, not individuals sharing for not money) aren't effected by this so-called 'security' in the slightest.
They don't care if their various methods of capture lose quality......what are you going to do, report them for cr@ppy PQ & SQ?!
It's always the industry that rides the gravy-train, the paying punter that suffers, the sharer that gets blamed as the easy scape-goat and the true 'pirates' that make money on copies no matter what. Wake up.
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7. January 2008 @ 22:33 |
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Based on predictions from industry analysts at the end of 2007 it means Blu-ray will become the dominant format by the end of 2008, but Akiyo Ozaka, president of Toshiba America Consumer Products, isn't so sure, and he said as much at a CES press breifing.
Ozaka said "We have been declared dead before."
I'm reminded of the scene in Monty Python and the Holy Grail. King Arthur fights the Black Knight and hacks off both his arms. He continues fighting, blood squirting everywhere, and starts kicking Arthur.
Arthur: You are indeed brave Sir knight, but the fight is mine.
Black Knight: Had enough?
Arthur: You stupid bastard. You haven't got any arms left.
Black Knight: Course I have.
Arthur: Look!
The Black Knight then says the immortal line:
"It's just a flesh wound."
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7. January 2008 @ 22:43 |
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I know one person that isn't going to admit a loss. His employer won?t allow that. It's like telling a window licker to get his tongue off the glass.
Am I reading this correctly? Some say a winner is a bad thing? I bet if it was HD-DVD that was taking the lead your opinion would be different. Stupid people. There needs to be a winner so this whole "Exclusive to BluRay or Exclusive to HD-DVD" thing stops. I don't want to buy 2 players or pay extra for a dual player.
Are people really this gullible? The whole "Broken DRM in BluRay" argument is POINTLESS! DRM WILL BE ADDED TO HD-DVD AFTER THE WAR IS OVER! What makes you think it won't be? Wake up people. BluRay just beat them to it. Movie companies want their movies protected. End of story. Nothing you can do about it. It will always suck.
Truth is BluRay did not win.......Yet. Looks good for Sony but they have screwed things up so bad in the past that I'll wait till it is all over to say I told you so.
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7. January 2008 @ 23:08 |
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Originally posted by djeazyg:
I know one person that isn't going to admit a loss. His employer won?t allow that. It's like telling a window licker to get his tongue off the glass.
Am I reading this correctly? Some say a winner is a bad thing? I bet if it was HD-DVD that was taking the lead your opinion would be different. Stupid people. There needs to be a winner so this whole "Exclusive to BluRay or Exclusive to HD-DVD" thing stops. I don't want to buy 2 players or pay extra for a dual player.
Are people really this gullible? The whole "Broken DRM in BluRay" argument is POINTLESS! DRM WILL BE ADDED TO HD-DVD AFTER THE WAR IS OVER! What makes you think it won't be? Wake up people. BluRay just beat them to it. Movie companies want their movies protected. End of story. Nothing you can do about it. It will always suck.
Truth is BluRay did not win.......Yet. Looks good for Sony but they have screwed things up so bad in the past that I'll wait till it is all over to say I told you so.
ANYTHING manmade can and WILL be broken! I guess you just have to love the protection on optical media!?!?
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8. January 2008 @ 01:09 |
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Originally posted by whytelyou:
I also will continue to get the blu-ray movies the way I have all this time. Thank God for the 360, massive hard drives, and high speed internet!
Thanks for proving my point you just let everyone know that your a pirate so when the MPAA come sniffing around your home we don't want to hear how your being falsely accused of something you just admitted your doing.That was very smart of you....lmao Some of you really need to think before you post..
Originally posted by whytelyou:
NexGen76 I guess you are that dumb... If Hd-dvd won would you buy a CHEAP Hd-dvd player?
If you go back to any of my post you will see that i never bashed HD-DVD format.I question there sells numbers but i never had a issue with them & made BS claims like other people on this forum because i know what the bigger picture is there a company like anyone else trying to sell a product.I have said countless time last month that after CES this year if the format war was still up in the air i was going to buy a HD-DVD player.I don't have a issue with them just there BS they was trying to pull over sells numbers which we see how that came out & other members on here spreading FUD from red side.
Originally posted by LCSHG:
That?s Just The Start. Sony wants to Dominate this Segment [and possibly others]
We should see to it that SONY has Blu-Ray stuck right where Betamax Was and that all there Media Purchases are a Noose around their Neck.
For those that may think Blu-Ray is that great. $25 bucks a disk is just a start
Sony can't do no more than what any government body allow them to do.Sony isn't the only company thats tried of people stealing there Sh!t.If 25 bucks is to much for BR then the consumer going to decide that because there not going to buy the product.Sony only part of the BDA i don't know why people can't seem to get this there not some terrorists org that here to lock down players thats the most weak excuse(not you) I've heard to date.BDA has no choice but to drop prices if they look to be around long enough to over take DVD.If BDA keep prices the same then rightfully so Blu-Ray going to die a quick death like HD-DVD.The consumers make the choice of what stays & what goes not Sony or any other Corp group.
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8. January 2008 @ 06:56 |
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Originally posted by whytelyou:
I also will continue to get the blu-ray movies the way I have all this time. Thank God for the 360, massive hard drives, and high speed internet!
Thanks for proving my point you just let everyone know that your a pirate so when the MPAA come sniffing around your home we don't want to hear how your being falsely accused of something you just admitted your doing.That was very smart of you....lmao Some of you really need to think before you post..
Originally posted by whytelyou:
NexGen76 I guess you are that dumb... If Hd-dvd won would you buy a CHEAP Hd-dvd player?
If you go back to any of my post you will see that i never bashed HD-DVD format.I question there sells numbers but i never had a issue with them & made BS claims like other people on this forum because i know what the bigger picture is there a company like anyone else trying to sell a product.I have said countless time last month that after CES this year if the format war was still up in the air i was going to buy a HD-DVD player.I don't have a issue with them just there BS they was trying to pull over sells numbers which we see how that came out & other members on here spreading FUD from red side.
Originally posted by LCSHG:
That?s Just The Start. Sony wants to Dominate this Segment [and possibly others]
We should see to it that SONY has Blu-Ray stuck right where Betamax Was and that all there Media Purchases are a Noose around their Neck.
For those that may think Blu-Ray is that great. $25 bucks a disk is just a start
Sony can't do no more than what any government body allow them to do.Sony isn't the only company thats tried of people stealing there Sh!t.If 25 bucks is to much for BR then the consumer going to decide that because there not going to buy the product.Sony only part of the BDA i don't know why people can't seem to get this there not some terrorists org that here to lock down players thats the most weak excuse(not you) I've heard to date.BDA has no choice but to drop prices if they look to be around long enough to over take DVD.If BDA keep prices the same then rightfully so Blu-Ray going to die a quick death like HD-DVD.The consumers make the choice of what stays & what goes not Sony or any other Corp group.
English please? F**K your BDA supporting A**. Your DAMN RIGHT I WILL CONTINUE TO DOWNLOAD BLU_RAY MOVIES??????
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whytelyou
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8. January 2008 @ 07:00 |
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F**k you and SONY!! both of you are blu! to bad your not blu enough to die!
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8. January 2008 @ 07:20 |
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8. January 2008 @ 09:43 |
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Originally posted by sony blogger nextgen:
Thanks for proving my point you just let everyone know that your a pirate so when the MPAA come sniffing around your home we don't want to hear how your being falsely accused of something you just admitted your doing.That was very smart of you....lmao Some of you really need to think before you post..
If as you put if sony's dominance = you have no choice but to installer their anti consumer crapware because they are the choice of the MPAA because of the anti consumer, propertarian, privacy threatening DRM, i would recommend to everyone in a country where it is legal to download Blu-Ray rips, ( WTO Awards Caribbean Country Right to Ignore US Copyright ) to never purchase this product in their lives, & change all the720p x264/mkv files to HD-WMV so they can stream them to their 360 or burn them to DVD so they can watch them on their 360's thus never having to purchase any sony product! or stream from the pc depending on the set-up! but in the end the non-paying customer will end up with a more consumer friendly product than the paying one who is locked into ridiculous DRM constraints!
Interesting look at the rhetoric of the MPAA lobby and bullying tactics used by the MPAA and RIAA (sony & co.) lobby in America by Prof. Michael Geist:
Internet law professor Michael Geist says 'Ignore the US copyright bullies' BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6592133.stm
Originally posted by sony blogger nextgen:
Sony can't do no more than what any government body allow them to do.Sony isn't the only company thats tried of people stealing there Sh!t.If 25 bucks is to much for BR then the consumer going to decide that because there not going to buy the product.Sony only part of the BDA i don't know why people can't seem to get this there not some terrorists org that here to lock down players thats the most weak excuse(not you) I've heard to date.BDA has no choice but to drop prices if they look to be around long enough to over take DVD.If BDA keep prices the same then rightfully so Blu-Ray going to die a quick death like HD-DVD.The consumers make the choice of what stays & what goes not Sony or any other Corp group.
For starters if sony believed in choice they would have themselves been releasing films on Hd-DvD and not getting their long time MPAA buddies fox and disney ( fyi the largest 3 contributors to the MPAA and lobbying for tougher IP laws and was these goons that pushed for the infamous DMCA )
Do you even know what a lobbyist is, do you know how the MPAA works in the US how do you think the MPAA have changed a minor civil violation into a full blown criminal offence with a 10year sentence in federal prison with the new Gov body being pair for by the tax payer?
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8. January 2008 @ 13:18 |
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Originally posted by error5:
I'm reminded of the scene in Monty Python and the Holy Grail. King Arthur fights the Black Knight and hacks off both his arms. He continues fighting, blood squirting everywhere, and starts kicking Arthur.
Arthur: You are indeed brave Sir knight, but the fight is mine.
Black Knight: Had enough?
Arthur: You stupid bastard. You haven't got any arms left.
Black Knight: Course I have.
Arthur: Look!
The Black Knight then says the immortal line:
"It's just a flesh wound."
LOL! Good analogy error5. You have to admire his never-say-die attitude.
If Paramount and/or Universal declare neutrality or even switch I think we'll be talking about John Cleese and the parrot sketch.
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9. January 2008 @ 05:26 |
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He declined to make any other specific comments regarding Warner Bros., but thanked all the companies currently backing Blu-ray for being "true blue all the way through."
Being tru blu is actually an Australian term are u not sure that an aussie is not behind all this :P
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