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Total PS3 sales overtake the Xbox 360 in Europe
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article published on 7 May, 2008
Sony's PlayStation 3 has hit a milestone in Europe by finally passing the Xbox 360 in total console sales despite the lowest priced PS3 costing nearly twice as much as the entry level version of the Microsoft console (£299 compared to £159) and a 16 month head start for the Xbox 360.
Games consultant Nick Parker credits the console's eventual success to Sony's strategy of giving it more ... [ read the full article ]
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wetsparks
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10. May 2008 @ 01:45 |
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It is true about Sony selling mores systems, and no NPD won't report it because they only report US sales. Do a little looking on the internet and you will find this to be true. And except for one month this year, the PS3 has outsold the 360 in America for, I believe, 5 of the last 6 months, that NPD did report. I won't dig for the report myself but with a little effort anyone can find it. And Varnell, Sony releases all their numbers in their annual financial reports, you lie in those you go to jail, so it isn't "PR spin."
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plazma247
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10. May 2008 @ 13:37 |
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lol how did I know a thread on the PS3 doing a doo-dee on a 360 would already be equivilent of war and peace in length and have some firey words contained withing... lol
Anyway im glad for sony that their vision and long term market tactics paid divident to microsofts lets just get it out there first approach ...
There is something microsoft is winning in.. dead units.. im sure the early release with a system that has been frought with design problems has seen the red ring of death possibly costing microsoft the long term game.
Zippy there is some figures i would like to publically see, the number of units returned for both manufactures which really gives you a good impression of the design and quality of the products forgetting the technical specs, graphics and everything else that is diffirent between them.
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TrinUK
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12. May 2008 @ 06:09 |
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There is something alot of people are missing here. Sony have had very little faulty units returned where as Microsoft have had many. When my first XBox 360 died, it was trashed and I was reimbursed in full by my insurance cover to buy a new unit which i did. This was before Microsoft announced the 3 year extended warranty. My new 360 counts as a "New Sale".
How many people out there have done the same? or just simply gone out and bought another unit? eg, 360 Basic users bought Premium units. Premium users upgrade to the Elite units. Now remove the number of replaced/faulty units by sales and Microsofts figures will fall drastically.
Most people won't touch the 360 Basic and most likely the Premium either due to the RROD. To date my PS3 hasn't given any trouble where as my upgraded 360 Premium is giving problems with the video port causing the system to reset. I am a console collector (Neo Geo AVS is my favourite) so im not bias. The truth from owning both systems is that the PS3 overall is a better machine. It feels grown up, classy, professional and runs great - it seems more than just a games machine, a box of dark secrets. The 360 is fantastic, slightly better crisp graphics, good menus and does what it says on the tin (its a games console). It's just a shame the reliabilty lets it down in a big way. Saying that.... I would buy another 360 and future MS consoles because the 360 is very good indeed. I'm proud to own both!
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MonoSoft
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19. May 2008 @ 16:29 |
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excellent, couldn't be happier that Sony overtook XBox 360 in Europe...
which person above believed the rumours of the Blu-Ray XBox 360?! Blu-Ray is a Sony Format... and they're in close competition (from Sony's Point of View atleast).
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There is something alot of people are missing here. Sony have had very little faulty units returned where as Microsoft have had many. When my first XBox 360 died, it was trashed and I was reimbursed in full by my insurance cover to buy a new unit which i did. This was before Microsoft announced the 3 year extended warranty. My new 360 counts as a "New Sale".
How many people out there have done the same? or just simply gone out and bought another unit? eg, 360 Basic users bought Premium units. Premium users upgrade to the Elite units. Now remove the number of replaced/faulty units by sales and Microsofts figures will fall drastically.
Most people won't touch the 360 Basic and most likely the Premium either due to the RROD. To date my PS3 hasn't given any trouble where as my upgraded 360 Premium is giving problems with the video port causing the system to reset. I am a console collector (Neo Geo AVS is my favourite) so im not bias. The truth from owning both systems is that the PS3 overall is a better machine. It feels grown up, classy, professional and runs great - it seems more than just a games machine, a box of dark secrets. The 360 is fantastic, slightly better crisp graphics, good menus and does what it says on the tin (its a games console). It's just a shame the reliabilty lets it down in a big way. Saying that.... I would buy another 360 and future MS consoles because the 360 is very good indeed. I'm proud to own both!
one of the most realistic statements said so far.. ^_^
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Most people won't touch the 360 Basic and most likely the Premium either due to the RROD.
the worst case of malfunction, even has a worldwide nickname for god's sake!
nevertheless, i think i'd be happy to see either of these two consoles beat Wii, as much as that's never going to happen -weep-
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nobrainer
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20. May 2008 @ 03:21 |
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@ MonoSoft
the spin talkers (public relations) from either sony or m$ will never mention the wii because its continually wiping the floor with both the 360 and the ps3.
in this generation most ppl own pc's that can play most games so both the 360 and ps3 are a bit meh as they are just more of the same games as the ps2 and xbox, with improved effects, a big WOW as graphics are what makes a game, right? and most of these titles you can get for a pc at a lower cost with a better frame rate, resolution and FREE publicly made mods.
then the wii has been made to engage the whole family, with fun gaming using an innovative control system, not the lone teenager sat in a dark bedroom all day and the wii is outselling all so the battle is on to see who can be in the 3rd spot after both the wii and ds is on.
Nintendo Wii outsells 360, PS3, PS2, PSP combined in April Originally posted by hyper:
Surprising absolutely no one, Nintendo took the number one and two slots in hardware sales. The Wii sold 714,200 units while the Nintendo DS moved 414,800 units (third place sales go to the PSP with 192,700 units). This month the Wii outsold the Playstation 2, PlayStation 3, PSP, and Xbox 360... combined.
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varnull
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20. May 2008 @ 03:47 |
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But what did we expect from 'tendo? They pretty much invented this type of gaming. Combine that with their proven build quality (my original brick nes is still going strong) innovations in controls, wide range of different type games and how can they fail? Oh.. I forgot.. It's the cheapest as well.
As for failure rates.. lets think back..
the 360 is badly designed.. it's a nightmare, so much so that a senior member of M$ console division was very interested in the possibility of liquid cooling the damn thing. Turns out that was too expensive, and the actual fault seems to lie elsewhere.
Now the ps3 was delayed and delayed.. firstly because the blu drive refused to work reliably.. and then 3 months more for unspecified reasons. they probably had brick issues as well but seem to have solved them. As sony are actually a hardware manufacturer they have a little bit of an upper hand here.. They can go into their works and find out exactly what is wrong.. M$ are using general assembly plants in the far east where they don't seem to have that kind of control.
Tendo take (as always) path 3.. KISS.. lower spec hardware, less heat and tried and tested technology.. Bonus.. reliability and lower price.
I wouldn't tell anybody to buy a 360. They should have sorted these problems by now, but they keep messing with the design instead of getting the damn thing working properly in the first place. Like with fista.. M$ seem to have lost the plot. It must be greed. Ha!
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Zygfryd
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21. May 2008 @ 10:51 |
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Originally posted by varnull:
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according to figures released by Sony.
hahahahaha.. I have sold more Gary Glitter cd's in Europe this year than sony have.. according to figures released by varnull !!!
Talk about spin and BS. I have yet to meet a ps3 owner in the flesh and know 9 360 owners.. locally it's not true.
Yet more non-news from the sony camp..
I call shenanagins !!
I know two owners of PS3 in my building (Poland), one of them have 360 or maybe i should say have third 360, one of which died on our eyes (there was also third buddy, we came to see his new lcd - we don't visit him too often mind you, so this was fu... coincidence).
After that i realy re-consider buying 360 which i've planned but its so unreliable - thats why that friend bought GTAIV for PS3, not for 360 and i think many people with both consoles and bad experiences did the same... especially in Europe.
PS. Sorry for my english ;)
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MonoSoft
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22. May 2008 @ 18:35 |
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@Nobrainer
that is true, in many respects, but for a computer to reach these "higher" potentials above PS3 and Xbox 360 would cost almost twice a PS3... i suppose it comes down to how seriously people take their gaming... i know Wii wipes the floor with both of them, but i would like to see one of the two beat the Wii in atleast one continent, i wouldn't be surprised at all if the PS3 beat the Wii in Europe in a few years, im not saying either will win, as the Wii has already sold 1 and a half times (30 million) it's predessesor (Gamecube). I'll still be surprised if the Wii can outsell the PS2, selling 130 million (atleast) and still selling up to this date..
It's obvious i find the PS3 the best of the three, but that's only my opinion.. people can't use "sales" to boost their own opinion of a console, because it doesn't matter what everyone else thinks of that game console in your living/bed room, it matters what you think...
PC can't really come into this, as it serves too many functions to imagine, the majority not being a gaming console.
fair debait though.. gaming wouldn't be the same if everyone liked the same thing.. ^_^
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