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Set-top box hackers sentenced to prison

article published on 15 May, 2008

The pay-television companies have been actively searching and investigating websites that spread the word of set-top box modding. One of the sites, modshack.co.uk, was detected to illegally instruct how to bypass the set-top boxes' security settings. The two Brits responsible for the site were taken to court in 2006 for breaking the Copyright and Designs Act. Modshack.co.uk gathered nearly ... [ read the full article ]

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16. May 2008 @ 11:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
listen, the point is DRM is a necessary nuisance. Stealing cable and bypassing DRM are two seperate things. One is straight out theft and one is fine in my book under certain conditions. Here, I'll break it down for everyone.

STEALING PAY-PER-VIEW = BAD
REMOVING DRM FROM PURCHASED SOFTWARE = GOOD
USING PIRATED SOFTWARE WITH DRM REMOVED = BAD
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16. May 2008 @ 11:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by grkblood:
listen, the point is DRM is a necessary nuisance. Stealing cable and bypassing DRM are two seperate things. One is straight out theft and one is fine in my book under certain conditions. Here, I'll break it down for everyone.

STEALING PAY-PER-VIEW = BAD
REMOVING DRM FROM PURCHASED SOFTWARE = GOOD
USING PIRATED SOFTWARE WITH DRM REMOVED = BAD
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16. May 2008 @ 11:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@goodswipe

What I meant was they deal with the same general issue which is media theft.
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16. May 2008 @ 16:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Originally posted by mspurloc:
The box is in your house.
If they don't like people modding them, they should move control outside your home.
Either that, or start paying you rent for putting their advertising machine in your home.
I don't know where you're from or how you're cable or satellite company works, but here in Texas that set-top box sitting on top of your tv or entertainment system isn't yours. You are just renting it, you don't actually own it. So when people go hacking these things up, what do they expect to happen?


Its not the so called cable boxes from the company they hack , its a box from Germany thats set up to work the but in the uk few tweaks and you get everything free.
The mad part is you dont evven need a tv package you just need the brooad band from the company coming into your home the same signal comes in on the line.
Have a look on ebay for euro vox see how bad it is in uk.
People are paying to have these things in their homes, so they can't actually put them outside. It' called convenience and it doesn't come without a price.
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Originally posted by mspurloc:
The box is in your house.
If they don't like people modding them, they should move control outside your home.
Either that, or start paying you rent for putting their advertising machine in your home.
I don't know where you're from or how you're cable or satellite company works, but here in Texas that set-top box sitting on top of your tv or entertainment system isn't yours. You are just renting it, you don't actually own it. So when people go hacking these things up, what do they expect to happen?


Its not the so called cable boxes from the company they hack , its a box from Germany thats set up to work the but in the uk few tweaks and you get everything free.
The mad part is you dont evven need a tv package you just need the brooad band from the company coming into your home the same signal comes in on the line.
Have a look on ebay for euro vox see how bad it is in uk.
People are paying to have these things in their homes, so they can't actually put them outside. It' called convenience and it doesn't come without a price.
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16. May 2008 @ 22:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
RE:Set-top box hackers sentenced to prison.
Some may fell sorry for the two of them. Is it right for someone to give info on how to hack let's say your A.T.M card ? Well one has to ask why are the box's on sale in the first place, I live in Dublin, Ireland and the police raided a warehouse and got 25000 box's,the crime was the box's were flashed to a SP here in Ireland, Now thats a CRIME.
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8. June 2008 @ 22:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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The companies use DRM to TRY and protect their programs, media etc from pirates.....

you are lucky you used the empesized word, or was it intentional because you know that without that little three letter word you would have been lying through your teeth?

TRY as they might.... they have NEVER been successful in preventing hackers from copying their various media.... they have only been successful it criminalizing anyone who wants to protect their rights as the copyright law allowed (prior to being userped by the treaty that is)

copyright law allows you to have a back up copy of media you own but the DRM treaty made you acriminal if you tried (note you do not need to succede to be the criminal, the treaty criminalized the act of trying)

also, free speach allows you to say anything that isn't illegal of itself (main example, treason against your country or detrimental to the health of countries leader)... teaching someone something is not illegal. ..... even if practicing what was learned is illegal you can teach someone to do it, examples: picking a lock or even building a bomb, in this case, subverting locks, the treaty criminalizes talking about this instructional activity... thus the Hexadecimal number key being written on t-shirts... that was published and spread, not because it broke the protection, which it did, but it went viral because it broke the treaty

the guys in jail now WERE NOT CONVICTED OF converting any boxes they WERE NOT CONVICTED OF selling the parts to make the conversion, they WERE NOT CONVICTED OF charging any fee for this what they WERE CONVICTED OF: telling someone something that the cable and megamovie companies DO NOT WANT YOU TO KNOW

that sounds comunistic to me "YOU ONLY NEED TO KNOW WHAT I/WE WANT YOU TO KNOW"!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 8. June 2008 @ 22:19

 
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