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Xbox 360 outselling PS3 two-to-one, says Microsoft
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article published on 30 September, 2008
Microsoft has made a statement saying that since they cut the price across the board for their Xbox 360 console, the system has been outselling its rival, the Sony PlayStation 3, by a two-to-one ratio.
Figures from Chart Track seem to back up that statement, saying sale are up 215 percent since the price cut was announced in Europe.
"This data shows that the Xbox 360 trajectory continues ... [ read the full article ]
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samshizze
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1. October 2008 @ 19:32 |
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Originally posted by lynchGOP:
Not surprised.
PS3 has failed heinously in comparison to the other two. A new game called Baja {something} was reviewed by gamespot and gave a good rating for XBox but not PS3. Bad graphics, VERY bad for PS3 in comparison.
Who really cares about Baja. Its not the ps3 that made it have bad graphics. Its the game developer didnt care enough to make the game any good for the system. In time people will see what the PS3 is capable of in the graphics department. Just look at games like Killzone 2 and Resistance 2.
Also Sony will be laughing all the way to the bank when microsoft incorporates Blu-Ray technology for the 360 or their next console. Which they are going to eventually have to do since games are only going to be getting bigger and better. Only so much a DL disc or hard drive can carry. Unless they expect everyone to buy 120gb hard drives.
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1. October 2008 @ 21:05 |
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I'm curious to see what kind of numbers MS going to post after Little Big Planet drop.Also on top of that maybe H.O.M.E. this month.MS has no answer to this game which is going to be a very huge system seller.I think MS has did a poor job of game management for this Christmas game lineup.They put all there eggs in one basket(HALO).
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1. October 2008 @ 23:30 |
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you know I opened this news article expecting to see all sorts of bashing for the xbox.
I must say I'm pleasently surprised seems like alot of support for it.
For whoever is saying it's defective.........
I've bought 2 360, a first model 2 weeks after it came out. And it's still running fine to this day, and it gets played several hours a day at times.
My second one was bought last week, it runs fine as well
So I ask you, are you just lookin for a reason to bash the 360s? Yes it's true they did have a problem IN THE PAST. As to my knowledge I have seen to many reports that the problem still exsists, wel except from people attempting to consistantly bash the 360.
But then again, maybe they are all doomed and soon to get the ring of death.
Just my thoughts,
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2. October 2008 @ 04:59 |
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Originally posted by SDF_GR:
i will just say this,
i have 2 ps3's a 60gb (EU release date) and a 40gb (for 6months or so) and up to this day i havent paid a cent more for both of them except the purchase price.
Who has a green box and havent spend money at least to 1 peripheral?
So if you ask from sony to lower the price as MS did.... i say that you should better say that you want a PS3 without a BD drive, HDD, free Network play,Blutouth, rechargeable build in controllers, Motion sensitive controllers, and not that much of CPU power.....Plus 30% failure rate....head or tales......
Quoted for truth!
I have both and:
- PS3 (60GB) : everything included from the start. All I needed to buy was a remote control (to use as a BD-player) and HDMI cable
- 360 (Core model) : If I want to get my 360 on the same level as my PS3, I would have to buy peripherals that are severely overpriced (HDD of 60Gb, battery charger for the controller, wifi, Live subscription).
In total the 360 would cost me about 100 euro more than the 360, just to get the same specs, not even talking about the HDDVD add-on.
Because of the overpriced peripherals, my 360 isn't even connected to the Internet. I simply refuse to pay that much for wifi connection.
In sum, the PS3 gives me better value for money, as the package includes everything I need and I'm set for the next decade. 360? Has some good games in its lineup but I'm already starting to regret my (overpriced) purchase.
And I'm not even talking about RROD issues, which have become less but are still going around.
This is not some fanboy bashing, but simply stating the facts, going by current prices.
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2. October 2008 @ 05:04 |
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M$ will say anything
The BPI Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, EMI.
The RIAA Soundexchange Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, EMI.
The IFPI Are: The same anti consumer lot as listed above!
The MPAA Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, DISNEY, PARAMOUNT, FOX.
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2. October 2008 @ 05:55 |
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Edited for content that violates forum rules - Instigating an argument on the forums & insulting members/staff.
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2. October 2008 @ 08:22 |
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Anyone else want to insult other aD members or staff? If so, go right ahead and the rules will be enforced. No more games.
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2. October 2008 @ 17:03 |
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Originally posted by 13thHouR:
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Thank god, his reign of tyrannical comments are over! Wow what a relief. That's the 2nd Ban Hammer down on Nobrainer-holy crap. Its just a matter of time before he decides to create another account and spam AD again. Ugh :( Hopefully not
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2. October 2008 @ 17:10 |
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Originally posted by 13thHouR:
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Thank god, his reign of tyrannical comments are over! Wow what a relief. That's the 2nd Ban Hammer down on Nobrainer-holy crap. Its just a matter of time before he decides to create another account and spam AD again. Ugh :( Hopefully not
O'rily I thought Nobrainer made good points and stuck to them unlike most fanboys that flap on the changing winds of this or that.
Altho the trouble is if you can not make your point and then let the point die as other dull or sharpen it during the course of the forum conversion then you will gain the ire of the staff, as it adds to thier work work load dealing with "fans" of ze members..
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2. October 2008 @ 17:14 |
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bdoggie08
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2. October 2008 @ 17:14 |
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was talkin to Johnflash-not you Zippy :P
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jdigitals
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2. October 2008 @ 18:07 |
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Yeah its too bad the ps3 has to be a game console, web browser with partition to run windows or like operating system, a music center, Blu-ray player, have built in wifi, and offers free online store to try out games and movie trailers with the option to buy them as well. Why cant it just be a game console wth web browser like the 360?
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2. October 2008 @ 18:10 |
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Originally posted by jdigitals:
Yeah its too bad the ps3 has to be a game console, web browser with partition to run windows or like operating system, a music center, Blu-ray player, have built in wifi, and offers free online store to try out games and movie trailers with the option to buy them as well. Why cant it just be a game console wth web browser like the 360?
With a locked web browser and locked hard drive and well locked everything...frankly the PS3 is a much better console hardware wise. the 360 is still fail60 because of the locks and fail rates..
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Originally posted by bdoggie08:
was talkin to Johnflash-not you Zippy :P
All I am saying is as soemone is reasonably polite and has 50% of truth is his ranting then he is harmless and adds to the overall flow and hum of the forum.
Now I a a loud mouth and tend dog an issue till I am either shooed away from it by a mod or feel I have won to take the car to mount above my mantel in my dog house.... my point....don't be disrespectful to the staff they have enough to deal with.
Once you feel its ok to be an ass all the time then the mods will whack your sorry ass and not feel bad about it I have been tossed from forums being well...me(IE incoherent unable to find a simple help faq thats hidden in the help section no sticky thread in a section to aid people to find them and the search function of the forum was disabled which caused me to panic and ask for help in a less than supper polite manner, the mod lasted two convos with me before I was banned).
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2. October 2008 @ 19:33 |
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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
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Originally posted by 13thHouR:
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Thank god, his reign of tyrannical comments are over! Wow what a relief. That's the 2nd Ban Hammer down on Nobrainer-holy crap. Its just a matter of time before he decides to create another account and spam AD again. Ugh :( Hopefully not
O'rily I thought Nobrainer made good points and stuck to them unlike most fanboys that flap on the changing winds of this or that.
Altho the trouble is if you can not make your point and then let the point die as other dull or sharpen it during the course of the forum conversion then you will gain the ire of the staff, as it adds to thier work work load dealing with "fans" of ze members..
Good argument
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2. October 2008 @ 20:05 |
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Yup.. I notice it too.. I haven't bought a console this gen because of the lack of grown up games (wii) price and/or lack of content (ps3) and overall nothing new offered (360).
M$ problems with hardware are IMHO blown out of proportion.. they have sold millions of these units, and I see a large number of day1 systems which have been hammered 12-16 hours a day, day in week in since release now starting to turn up needing a new laser before I will flash them..
The rrod hassles have all come about because of M$ trtying to shaft the customer with a really crap returns policy, and falling foul of statutory consumer rights in many countries and getting the internet mileage for unreliability they really don't deserve.. A simple "send it back at our expense and we will give you a new one" would have done for all that bickering and whining from day 1... no "recons" and no "repairs".. just replace and stfu eh MS? Lesson learned?. I doubt it.
The big problem now is the multitude of variants out there.. I dont want such and such version.. I just want a 360 which will be reliable out of the box. IF they have fixed the manufacturing problems then why don't they recall all the old (and likely unreliable) stock and start with a clean one version situation. Most of the nightmare machines have been siting in warehouses for a year or 2 or floating around ebay since adam was a lad :) I know a guy who bought a rrod 360 off flea bay.. couldn't fix it and sold it on.. only to buy the very same console back again 6 months later... How many "the 360 is a rrod pile of junk" forum posts has that one machine generated?.. I wouldn't like to say. (for the record.. the GPU is visibly off the board on the front right corner where somebody has been over enthusiastic with a heat gun and melted the little solder balls)..
My advice for people buying.. buy new and keep proof of purchase until warranty period is up.. as with anything electronics these days in our throw away broken by design world.
7 hours on trains and hanging around stations getting delays and dropped services does not make me a happy bunny.. plus the £10 for a damn taxi because the last train was late missing my last connection and bus!!!.. grrrrr)
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jdigitals
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2. October 2008 @ 20:38 |
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varnull you know your stuff....let me guess you would be the electronics specialist/ hack If you were ever apart of a heist :p
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3. October 2008 @ 11:01 |
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It's not shocking that the 360 is kicking the PS3's butt, heck the PS3 may be a Ferrari, but you can't do anything with a Ferrari if it has square wheels (yes I stole that phrase from someone). People need to face the fact that the PS3 was released as an insanely overpriced wannabe gaming console, that most consumers including allot of hardcore gamers just weren't into buying. Microsoft on the other hand considered price and made that their main selling point as paired with GOOD games, choice and value when it comes down to hardware and technology (which may have cost them some face, especially with the RROD). Sony on the other hand did the complete opposite while releasing an overpriced console with NO games that warranted such a steep price.
So if you can't tell, I'm glad the Xbox 360 is kicking the PS3's a$$...at least Microsoft knows what TRUE gamers want! I always have the tendacy to back a company/console that caters to us GAMERS and not some company/console that has an agenda of pushing their proprietary (proprietary = Blu-ray) and ignoring gamers needs/wants. Plain and simple there's a new sheriff in town and their rockin the green, white, silver and a big XBOX logo!
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3. October 2008 @ 11:52 |
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Originally posted by bdoggie08:
LMAO - Great Pics, even though I use Vista :o
I mostly game on my PC and after I got a good IGCSE result (8/8 A*s :D) I was thinking of getting a console and HDTV, but I didn't buy a 360 due to RRoD and bad support where I live, and not a PS3 cuz it can't be flashed. I would buy the PS but the original games here are wayyyyyyy to inflated in terms of price.
I went with a new laptop, and most games that come on 360 and PS3 come on PC so I can play them on decent settings.
But I do envy some spoiled brats in my class who have both and can play all the exclusves
(+[_]%) 1: 2.60 > 2.80 > 2.81 >3.03 > 1.50 > 3.52M33 > 3.52M33-4 > 3.90M33 > 3.90M33-3 > 4.01M33 > 4.01M33-2 > 5.00M33 > 5.00M33-3
My GAMING LAPTOP!! : Acer Aspire 5930G - P8400 2.26Ghz//4 GB DDR2//GeForce 9600M GT 512MB GDDR3
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I respect the x-box...Im a fan of fighters and without the snk vs capcom in the 90s they wouldnt have pushed the envelope for quality and advancment. I really dont care for shooting games, They bore me indefinitely....Microsoft is the king of these by far!!!! Fighting games(good ones) can be few and far between, just seems like exclusives for both systems are just different versions of shooters...No big deal to me personally....I do know that the majority of gamers love these kind of games....Well thats my 2 cents
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Reading some of the comments here, some of you makes it sound like Xbox360 is blowing the PS3 out of the water. I hardly think 5 million console sales ahead of the PS3 should be considered such high praise. I mean for all those saying how the PS3 has nothing, its doing quite well for a console that has 'nothing' and more expensive right? If you look at it the other way, Xbox360 isnt doing all that well with just being slightly in the lead of the PS3 and has 'the best library of games' and 'best online experience' and cheaper etc.
This article is good news for MS and congrats to them for having an increase of sales from their price drop, but this should be nothing to boast about and I feel is more irrelevant than those previous articles about Wii beating PS3 by 5:1 and beating xbox360 30:1 in japan etc.
Just a thought IMO <--- , but can MS ever try to make an amazing exclusive without having it base around the use of guns? Its like MS tells every developer "Our games must consist of guns!". As if MS didnt think PC had enough shooting games lol. jk :P
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5. October 2008 @ 14:52 |
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People who spend a lot of money on their console will justify their purchase come hell or high water.
Being a PS fanboy I waited till the release of the PS3 before making up my mind. Especially since I work in a console repair shop.
Normally I would purchase both. But I stuck with my X360 and didn't bother with the PS3.
I'm a gamer primarily so I wanted access to a wide variety of good games. The old argument about first person shooters over dominating the X360 is rubbish nowadays. I started video gaming when Pong first came out, I'm that old.
After having replaced hundreds of optical assemblies in PS2s, at a huge expense I might add, when I saw how badly they were made in the PS3... well I wasn't looking forward to replacing mine when the warranty ran out, yes we've started doing those too (at great expense).
RRoD is a problem- but nowhere nearly as bad as it was in the old models.
All consoles poorly compromise in multi-media. For Blu-ray I built my own media PC- at least it hardware decodes HD and is completely versatile. Yes, it has HDMI. And a terabyte of RAID.
The controllers for the PS3 are poorly made and wear out too quickly imo. And for the record I use AA long-life ni-cads in the 360's, with a fast recharger... a cheap solution.
As for quality graphics? Well the PS3 looks good on paper but the reality is disappointing. GTA IV is 640p native on PS3 as opposed to 720p on the X360, not to mention the framerates. Why? Because it's graphics processing unit (GPU) is lamer, it just is. Also, because RAM is not shared between the GPU and CPU in the PS3, you get more bottlenecks. Game programming is a nightmare on the PS3 (again), and there are less useful commands in the consoles' instruction set, requiring more lines of code.
Normally I would say competition is good for us. But cross-platforming games are held back by the fact that the PS3's CPU only has ONE general purpose core- the other six are for floating point calculations only. The X360 has three general purpose cores, but two get underutilised in this situation. FP calcs are just not that important for game programming, but great for the software decoding of HD.
Motion control is an utter gimmick in my opinion and hard core gamers don't use it- it's too "loose". We can look forward on the other hand to mind/brain controlling - and yes I've seen it demonstrated. It's totality in it's infancy atm and will require the next gen of hardware to support the learning software involved. Did the guy who invented the device/software design it for gaming... yes, definitely he did. I was astounded when I saw it. (Yes I know it's a bit off-topic- lol).
I don't rule out getting a PS3 in the future- but they are gonna have to get a lot cheaper for me to bite. For the too few exclusive "must-have" titles, it just aint worth it atm.
So I'm not surprised the X360 is out-selling the PS3 at this stage of the game. Regardless, every console (including the WII) has it's pluses or minuses, whatever console you chose I would hope you did it for concrete reasons... the games.
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WHoever said the the 360 has a 5M lead on the PS3 is a moron, its 10M, total monthly unit sales are fluctuating neck and neck.
Sure 30% of the units sold are broken and have skewed the numbers..and they have not fixed the 360 yet...but the PS3 is still begin held down by its price and the fact its only 10M away from the 360 s a good indication that if you drop the price it will serge sales it will boost it past the 360 on a world wide scale rather quickly..
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5. October 2008 @ 17:02 |
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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Sure 30% of the units sold are broken and have skewed the numbers..and they have not fixed the 360 yet...
That's a total exaggeration Zippy. M$ of course won't release the actual figures, but from my experience in the repair shop, nowadays that just ain't true. Also it makes no sense, are you suggesting 30% of new buyers on finding their unit broken go and purchase a new one, inflating the sales figures?
I agree that all price drops produce a surge in sales, that's inevitable, the rest is speculation.
Also I found this, which backs up my previous statement-
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/672905
As with the PS2 (I went thru two and about seven original controllers) the PS3's rubbish laser assembly will inevitably die, sooner rather than later, after the warranty expires of course. Face it, none of these corporations are motivated to produce a high-quality hard-wearing product. They don't respect your loyalty.
Its a lot easier being righteous than right.
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