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19. November 2008 @ 09:58 |
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As it happens, Intel CPUs tend to last a lot longer than AMDs in all the long run tests I've shown, your CPUs are likely to have failed due to faulty motherboards powering them. CPUs very rarely fail by themselves. In any case, this is not the AMD vs Intel thread :P
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19. November 2008 @ 11:59 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
As it happens, Intel CPUs tend to last a lot longer than AMDs in all the long run tests I've shown, your CPUs are likely to have failed due to faulty motherboards powering them. CPUs very rarely fail by themselves. In any case, this is not the AMD vs Intel thread :P
Boo! You bring war to this peaceful land. :P
I'm also interested in the performance hit that an AM2+ chip in a AM2 board takes. Can anyone find a ballpark number?
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19. November 2008 @ 12:04 |
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Hehe, well, was just tru-ifying a post :)
As far as I can tell it's about a 10% hit. How noticeable that would be would depend on what you do.
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19. November 2008 @ 12:44 |
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any reports on the clocks being achieved with the phenom II?
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19. November 2008 @ 13:44 |
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What we need is someone to underclock their Intel quads to the Phenoms speeds to compare them at the same clock speeds. Also no using 3DMark for game performance. Use Far Cry 2 or something.
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19. November 2008 @ 14:01 |
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id say use an RTS as they are heavily CPU dependant or use FSX.
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19. November 2008 @ 14:16 |
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Crysis Warhead, and whack the resolution down to 800x600. My CPU frame rate cap is 21 for that game, seems a good place to start :P
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19. November 2008 @ 18:24 |
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To underclock any CPU would still be an unfair test. CPU to CPU same MGz, also not games. Can't really see how games can define speed, if it works it works.
I mean really how many things do we really do that define the need for speed
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19. November 2008 @ 18:25 |
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They do, as the frame rate in games is not only limited by the graphics card, but also the processor as well.
Single-task apps like video encodes or renders tend to favour certain types of chips so they're not necessarily good tests either.
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19. November 2008 @ 20:06 |
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sammorris: Well like I said if it works, it works. Regardless of what CPU U use, I know Vid cards enhance the pic Quality, also they require a certain Speed of CPU to retain the movement in scenes
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19. November 2008 @ 20:08 |
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Yes, but that's conditional. A stock E7200 for instance, would render some games unplayable at max settings where they'd be fine with a Q9550.
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19. November 2008 @ 21:00 |
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Originally posted by Shamb1es:
Originally posted by sammorris:
As it happens, Intel CPUs tend to last a lot longer than AMDs in all the long run tests I've shown, your CPUs are likely to have failed due to faulty motherboards powering them. CPUs very rarely fail by themselves. In any case, this is not the AMD vs Intel thread :P
Boo! You bring war to this peaceful land. :P
I agree! Most of us here don't care about oveclocking, CPU speeds, Frame rates, or what you can do on an Intel! We are here because we want to learn about the new AMD Technology and use it to do a build that will suit our needs and do the job we want. Here, it's all about our individual needs! as long as it's About building the best AMDs we can to suit our needs! I'm no Mod, but you three getting "Off Topic"!
You all are welcome here any time as long as it's about the thread title. I understand that even I have to say "Intel" sometimes to explain things. So I'm not splitting hairs here. Please Respect what we came here to do and accomplish!
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19. November 2008 @ 21:33 |
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Originally posted by spamual:
any reports on the clocks being achieved with the phenom II?
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19. November 2008 @ 21:35 |
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The Inquirer reckon up to 4Ghz on air, but the Inquirer reckon a lot of things...
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19. November 2008 @ 21:39 |
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godd idea lets check news sites :D
mmm fudzilla also posts 4Gs (on air)
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19. November 2008 @ 22:02 |
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Isn't this all AMD hearsay at the moment?
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19. November 2008 @ 22:21 |
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Could be but Unanomously we all agree that Now is the Time for it not to be
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19. November 2008 @ 23:04 |
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Originally posted by spamual:
Originally posted by spamual:
any reports on the clocks being achieved with the phenom II?
Nothing more than rumors at the moment from mostly fringe sites. none of the bigger sites have said much!
Russ
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19. November 2008 @ 23:06 |
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i just hope the roumers are real, never had an AMD build, would like one, just have to clock well and actualyl perform good in games.
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19. November 2008 @ 23:09 |
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Until the Core 2s came along, that's everything I would have said an AMD was. Sometimes we get too lost in comparisons.
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19. November 2008 @ 23:10 |
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I don't see the point of comparing though. I thought it was pretty clear cut.
Everyone used to argue P4 vs AMD. It was obviously AMD, why argue?
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19. November 2008 @ 23:12 |
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same here sam, but comparrisons need to be made, or else youd end up with something not good your your money.
tbh if they clocked well, i wouldnt mind if they gave 10FPS less in games. id buy just to clock them.
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20. November 2008 @ 19:05 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Isn't this all AMD hearsay at the moment?
What's funny about that, is everyone's talking except AMD! LOL!! They've been pretty quiet, and yet look at all the rumors!
Russ
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20. November 2008 @ 23:16 |
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Originally posted by spamual:
same here sam, but comparrisons need to be made, or else youd end up with something not good your your money.
tbh if they clocked well, i wouldnt mind if they gave 10FPS less in games. id buy just to clock them.
We understand the cost difference, but for our needs, this is what we want. The money isn't an issue either and we don't need comparisons to be made. Just think of us as an Antique computer club and take your frame rates and such elsewhere!
here, it's about what the individual wants, and right now we would all prefer, that you just go away and let us get this thread back in the direction of it's original goals!
Russ ):
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21. November 2008 @ 00:50 |
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Here's a review on a the 780G's game performance on 3 different motherboards with various video configurations using an HD 3450 with the 708G. A GigaByte GA-MA78GM-S2H is the test motherboard!
http://www.amdzone.com/index.php/reviews...x2-4850e-review
Available at Newegg for $80! http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128090
Unless I miss my guess, I would say that you are looking at roughly around the 2.9GHz 64x2 4800+'s performance level on AM2 using this particular MB with a 4850e. It's been Reported to be the most "Feature Laden" of all the presently available 708G motherboards!
AMD makes two 45w chips! The 2.5GHz 4850e and the 2.6GHz 5050e. Both will tie into the + part of AM2+ for performace gains at reduced wattage. The 5050e in this motherboard should perform up in the 64x2 5600+'s range. Maybe even higher! Amd has just walked smak into the middle of Media Center/IGP Solution computers, and proved they own the market! Second place is no longer good enough, and AMD is going to sell a ton of the 708G chipsets and the "e" CPUs to go with them. AMD can finally start to make some money again! You better get used to seeing computers like these!
You are going to see a lot of them in the not too distant future. I'm hoping it's my next case!
Russ
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