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Virgin to Capture illegal boxes
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milan1980
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12. December 2008 @ 05:40 |
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Thanks mate!!
Have a good Christmas!!
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12. December 2008 @ 06:12 |
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Originally posted by ivorbigun:
Originally posted by wayman1:
Be sure to leave him a plate of biscuits and a glass of milk and carrots for his reindeer....
you mean motorised green tent! this is the 21st century baby!!
if u belive in santa then u belive the post ..
Two things make me smile my polish flower and my Bengals
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12. December 2008 @ 07:52 |
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getting a little paranoid. I don't know if it's possible to do, but just the hint that it might is enough to warrant worry. JM2C
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malvision
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12. December 2008 @ 09:20 |
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hi everyone
It would be possible for vm to tell if you were using a different stb than theirs.All stbs give out rf frequencies produced by the onboard ics ,cpu etc.Vm boxes are Samsung pace etc they scan there own boxes for rf frequencies input these into a computer if that computer finds different freqs produced by a different box it alerts.The coax into your box will still send these small pulses back out of your home right down the cable system
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gerrard08
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12. December 2008 @ 09:28 |
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Originally posted by malvision:
hi everyone
It would be possible for vm to tell if you were using a different stb than theirs.All stbs give out rf frequencies produced by the onboard ics ,cpu etc.Vm boxes are Samsung pace etc they scan there own boxes for rf frequencies input these into a computer if that computer finds different freqs produced by a different box it alerts.The coax into your box will still send these small pulses back out of your home right down the cable system
So..say for example that I have a SV2, and assume that my SV2 sends out signals...to vm, so...HOW will VM know the signal is coming from my house, cos the SV2 is not registered under any1's name.
does that make sense?
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mkwabbey
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12. December 2008 @ 10:37 |
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put my ntl box back in there and it wont work just says 8888 on front any1 else had this problem
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ivorbigun
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12. December 2008 @ 10:52 |
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i not even attempted to put my origanal box back in since so don't know what would happen
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gerrard08
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12. December 2008 @ 11:14 |
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i had just my SV2 plugged in b4 today, well.....about 4hours ago i've plugged in the original (basic package) along side the SV2 and they both seem to be receiving channels
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12. December 2008 @ 11:25 |
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Originally posted by malvision:
hi everyone
It would be possible for vm to tell if you were using a different stb than theirs.All stbs give out rf frequencies produced by the onboard ics ,cpu etc.Vm boxes are Samsung pace etc they scan there own boxes for rf frequencies input these into a computer if that computer finds different freqs produced by a different box it alerts.The coax into your box will still send these small pulses back out of your home right down the cable system
Nominated for the best every BS answer I have seen here in a long time. Sorry for the minor rant..........but do people actually believe this????
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denibabe
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12. December 2008 @ 11:41 |
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well scouser if they keep telling themselves they will believe it,still find it interesting to read though,lol
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gerrard08
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12. December 2008 @ 11:44 |
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so..Sc0user ...is it all BULL you rekon? please tell me it is...LOL :-)
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12. December 2008 @ 12:15 |
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I shouldnt have to :)
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12. December 2008 @ 12:19 |
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What do I do if there is a red tent next to the green one?
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12. December 2008 @ 13:08 |
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Originally posted by ph2kuk:
What do I do if there is a red tent next to the green one?
Eh! tell the kids the circus has come to town, LOL there are always people with stories about this is going to happen or that is going to happen, wait till it happens then fix it :)
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12. December 2008 @ 13:10 |
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quote=ph2kuk]What do I do if there is a red tent next to the green one?
Are there little green men dressed up as leprachauns in the green tent??
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 12. December 2008 @ 13:31
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raartoot
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12. December 2008 @ 13:15 |
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Originally posted by ph2kuk:
What do I do if there is a red tent next to the green one?
Its the White tent you should be worried about, especially if its near a green Box, mind you, that'll be a result wouldnt it. headline..."VM engineer smacked on the head with a suspicious Starview Box whilst trying to disconnect a leecher",lol...
I love these stories, keep them coming!!haha
Raar'n'Toot
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12. December 2008 @ 13:26 |
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Not to mention the red dvd discs with the chip to phone home thru the modem as the disc is being ripped to the hard drive. Beware of these also; the RIAA people will appear on your doorstep after getting info from your ISP.
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gerrard08
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12. December 2008 @ 13:29 |
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Originally posted by sc0user:
I shouldnt have to :)
LOL..thats is..i have heard enough...im gonna turn off my original box and just stick to the SV2
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12. December 2008 @ 13:49 |
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The starview etc boxes do not talk back to the network, which is why you cannot use the interactive function.
Since the box doesn't talk, VM can't listen
Now stop worrying and keep thing on how you are going to spend that extra VAT money
History Will Be Kind To Me, For I Intend To Write It
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denibabe
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12. December 2008 @ 14:10 |
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a lot of people seem to be forgeting one thing it was the vm engineers that started selling chipped boxes in the first place,if vm could tell you had a box then the dodgy engineer would of knocked back on your door saying can i have my box bak mate.think about it.
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12. December 2008 @ 14:16 |
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When I woke up this morning I thought I was in a tent!
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12. December 2008 @ 18:34 |
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Unbelievable
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Downbeat
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12. December 2008 @ 19:04 |
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This thread is just too in-tents ;-)
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12. December 2008 @ 20:31 |
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Any more fuel for the fire .
Have a lollipop
Two things make me smile my polish flower and my Bengals
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TheBish
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12. December 2008 @ 22:38 |
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Originally posted by connerben:
It is alledged that as of 24th December Virgin will have engineers checking for illegal boxes via the green cabinets at the end of the street. They say that will be able to identify houses that are receiving TV for free through this method. Is there any way they can do this? I am told that all boxes have a MAC address and they can do this. If you connect a genuine subscribed (minimum package) box, will this stop it?
Can they do this? - Yes, in theory they could.
Is the MAC address important - No.
Will connecting a genuine sub'd box stop it? - Not quite, but it might make it harder for them.
Will they do it? - No, not on your nelly!
Now before anyone jumps up & down with panic about their box, or tears their hair out saying it can't be done, consider this...
Unless the non-sub'd box is optically isolated from the cable network, and I've never seen such a device, RF emissions from it can be detected back up the cable with enough expensive equipment. To do this the provider would have to camp out in their little green tent at least next to the distribution box in your street. They would then have to tap in to your cable feed with their RF receiver (or a spectrum analyser). What they would detect would now be a host of things.
Every piece of electronic equipment that has any form of clock circuit will have an RF signature which is unique to that type of equipment. The more clock (or switching) circuits that equipment has the more distinct its signature becomes. This RF can & will get emitted at a very low level back up the incoming cable.
If they were to have a database of RF signatures from known equipment that they wanted to detect they could search for a match using their 'scanners'. However, they would first have to filter out noise from their own transponder frequencies which are constantly transmitting, including the broadband frequencies. They would also have to take into account RF noise signatures emitted from the sub'd box and your cable modem (assuming they were both connected).
The level of emitted RF from your box would be tiny in comparison to the incoming transponder signals and therefore would be heavily swamped by the other 'legit' signals on the line. They would stand more chance of detecting your box if they disconnected your cable from their feed but left it connected to their recevier/scanner. This is why I said above that leaving your sub'd box connected would make it harder for them to detect a non-sub'd one, unless they were identical in which case they'd have similar RF signatures.
So, as I said at the beginning, it can be done in theory but it never would be. Why would they spend all that money on equiping their vans with expensive kit just to try to identify if one customer is using a non-sub'd box on their network? They would be better-off just disconnecting then waiting to see if you call them up complaining of a fault.
This is all theory, but theory based on a certain amount of experience, so make of it what you will...! It's up to you if you want to connect anything to the cable network.
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