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ISPs to become piracy police in UK
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The following comments relate to this news article:
article published on 17 January, 2009
According to a draft report by Lord Carter of the UK, ministers in the region plan to pass regulation that would force ISPs to inform customers that they are suspected of illegally downloading movies and music and should stop.
The service providers would also be required to collect data on repeat offenders which then must be turned over to copyright holders or the record labels if they need them.
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varnull
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21. January 2009 @ 09:21 |
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we have a right to privacy.. we also have the right to CHOOSE to break the law..
That right is being taken away by this new method of considering every single person a criminal before the fact and tapping ALL our communications.
Just because I walk past a bank does not mean I am considering robbing it... but that is exactly where this new world order is coming from.
You may be happy with that.. but I am certainly not.
Obviously our troll here doesn't live in the UK and see the abuses by the state and police of basic human rights on a day to day basis. We have even had an opposition MP's office raided and searched by police... for just doing what he is fully and legally entitled to do, hold certain papers for discussion and inspection under the laws of the land... When a state begins to get that out of control it starts to be not a democracy but government by dictat.. and that is a dangerous place to live, believe.
How would our yankee friends like it if they were overheard on the phone saying about Obama being bad, and he should be impeached or something.. when they return home from work their house is being raided and searched because some "threat to national security" has been logged against them.... and all from an innocent.. and legal.. comment.
"Piracy" is the excuse.. the real fact of the matter is finding an excuse to justify the removal of all our rights.....
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25. January 2009 @ 12:40 |
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Apparently the proposals have already gained ?widespread support.?
You have got to be s#$t$#g me.
And I agree with DXR88, if the riaa came over my house somebody deffinatly is getting smacked, if I have to go to jail, it will be for a bigger reason than the riaa's bullcrap rules.
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hugolove
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25. January 2009 @ 18:39 |
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This is all empty discussion - you all know for a fact that they are never going to stop until all freedoms have been stripped from us, leaving us to choose between only those options they allow us.
You cannot advise using the law to get out of this - the law can and has been changed on many occasions to suit the needs of big business. This is no different. Those in charge wish to remain in charge, and will scratch each other's backs endlessly to make sure this occurs.
It is not that they will not listen to the voice and decisions of the common people - it is that they hold that voice of such people in complete disregard. They want only to control you, your minds, your actions, and harness you to the wheel of their industry.
They stupify you with "their" culture - Pop Idol, Gladiators, celebrity marriages and breakups, compelling you to work in their sweatshops in order to earn their valueless currency.
Even your home, the roof over your head, the most basic necessity of human survival, must be bought at such a high cost that we cannot afford it without taking out an immense loan, repayable over 25 years, keeping us in bonded slavery as long as it exists.
The economy is a lie - just whom exactly do we and our American and European brethren owe our national debt too? Why, the very same super-rich elite who, it is claimed, have engineered this whole situation. These, my friends, are our enemies.
Direct not the brunt of your anger at our politicians or police, for they too are mere pawns. Some indeed have no clue whatsoever how this state of affairs came into being, and are merely pig-headed fools. Others are weak men who have allowed themselves to be bought with promises of wealth or power to come, and should be pitied as much as they are despised.
No, my friends, these are not our true enemies. They are merely the least amongst us.
The rich. Or, more accurately, the super-rich. In all manner of criminal investigations, one looks to see who benefits from the crime in order to find the purpetrator. Where, my friends, does the money go? From whose stained and scaly chin are we stealing the breadcrumbs of Piracy?
For it is mere breadcrumbs we remove from the plate of the great purveyors of music - indeed there is evidence to suggest that piracy has in fact increased record sales in recent years, due to the explosive proliferation of musical availability Piracy has engendered. These breadcrumbs, therefore, cannot be said to be the reason for the immense legal upheaval we are currently experiencing.
No, my friends, the issue is control. We have dared to buck our oppressor, to show him we have a will of our own, and now he would crush that will. To remain silent is to submit yourself to his dominance; to attempt to use his own system against him will only result in that system being ammended to his satisfaction. We have only one recourse...
REVOLUTION!
I was recently reminded that Anarchy does not mean chaos, it means "no leaders". I, my friends, am an Anarchist, and I invite you to join my cause in any way you see fit.
I thank you for reading...
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25. January 2009 @ 20:46 |
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hugolove, Thats some heavy stuff your throwing out there, some points are true some are debatable, regardless it's big time political, some hairs will be raised with that on AD.
There's a lot more to becoming an anarchist than just talking about it, the sad part is one point is true, we the little guy if things keep going the way they are, run out of ways to support ourselves our families and loved one's the crap will hit the fan, when we finally have nothing more to lose is when people that are use to comfort will fight back, otherwise we stay still and just watch.
This ISP thing that really is pushing it though, I would love to see a huge public outcry on it, probably will not happen unfortanatly, but so true, these big guys just keep pushing, power rules all, greedy power never last's forever, as stated above, the crap will always hit the fan, by anarchy, revolution who knows, I'm to old more than likely to ever see it, and hope my children never do, the moguls sure are pushing it though.
I enjoy my peacfull debates, thoughts and learning things on AD, they won't allow you to continue a political discusiion here on AD, your points are well taken, but if you want to start a cause I'm afraid your gonna have to find a political Forum, you won't find one at AD, but don't be discuraged, you made some good points, get on a good poli forum and I'm sure you'll get a good debate and maybe even some support, good luck.
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25. January 2009 @ 22:54 |
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One has no need for a leader, but rather a goal of common interest.
That is how many countries started, a presidents job was to protect those common goals, to relay the names of those who dare defy the common goal of the nation as a whole.
those days ended when we the people stopped listening,and the men sworn to protect those goals, fight and squabble over the now used and worn title President.
how could men turn from hero's defenders of the people and the nation to nothing more than a pincushion, for those that would do harm to that common goal.
there are theories, idea's, guesses, but no truths.
nor will there ever be.
DXR88
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