Delay of digital TV bill goes to vote
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article published on 24 January, 2009
The senators involved with the upcoming mandatory transition to Digital TV signals from analog signals in the US have agreed to a bill that would delay the transition to June 12th from February 17th. The legislation will go to vote next week, with some expecting as early as Monday.
The delay will give the Commerce Committee more time to get funds for coupons for converter boxes that allow ... [ read the full article ]
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gsebs
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25. January 2009 @ 19:05 |
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Originally posted by gerbs: Now, one good reason to delay is that thousands, even though they have converter boxes, do not realize they may need to go up on their roofs to adjust or add antennas to actually capture the digital signal, which is much more difficult to receive without any break-up. Here the north our roofs are covered with snow and ice and going up there may result in serious injury--especially for older citizens.
I think you actually pick up on the actual point here, in that if you need to adjust your outside aerial or dish, middle of winter is not the time to do it, hence the middle of summer, (BTW if you are looking for work I would suggest getting up to speed on how it all works, and take advantage of it.)
If your signal is not good enough then that is the broadcastors problem and they need to boost their transmission.
The other plus is that it costs less to broadcast in Digital, about a 10% drop just in electrical charges.
As for the shut down you would think they would get each state to slowly change the transmission over, starting in more popular areas then moving out, just makes more fiscal sense (oh sorry i used the sense word)
and why any still offer analouge only tv anymore will always be a mystery!!!
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gmontalc
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25. January 2009 @ 19:23 |
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Originally posted by vurbal: Originally posted by vurbal: I'm not talking about 1980s TVs. I was simply pointing out that you were talking out of your nether regions about what the converter boxes do.
Are you aware that these digital TV signals are good for the cities close to the antennas transmitters?, the digital signals are not as strong as the analogs ones. So, for people who live in "nether regions" as you mentioned, definitely will not get any digital signal at all, therefore no Converter box TV needed.
Quote: .... It's a completely separate tuner that even most newer TVs don't have.
I disagree totally with that one, Digital Turners are long old technology already.
The purpose for FCC to make you change to digital TV is because need to free up frequencies spectrum. The analog processing signals are more reliable and can reach vast territories for transmitting data and sound which the Government, Military and many other agencies need.
"a society full of greedy scavengers"
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25. January 2009 @ 19:48 |
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Originally posted by gmontalc: Originally posted by vurbal: Originally posted by vurbal: I'm not talking about 1980s TVs. I was simply pointing out that you were talking out of your nether regions about what the converter boxes do.
Are you aware that these digital TV signals are good for the cities close to the antennas transmitters?, the digital signals are not as strong as the analogs ones. So, for people who live in "nether regions" as you mentioned, definitely will not get any digital signal at all, therefore no Converter box TV needed.
Quote: .... It's a completely separate tuner that even most newer TVs don't have.
I disagree totally with that one, Digital Turners are long old technology already.
First off the nether regions I was referring to was the part of one's body facts you make up are pulled from. Second, it's a fact that until last year, when the FCC disallowed the practice, many analog TVs were still being sold without ATSC tuners. Just a few years ago most HDTVs didn't even have them. Prior to 2005 analog TVs manufactured for sale in the US weren't required to have any digital tuner. Before 2006 analog televisions with screens 36" or smaller didn't have to have one. As of 2007 every device with a tuner had to include at least one digital tuner, but a year ago the FCC had to outlaw the sale of TVs without ATSC tuners because they were still being sold.
Quote: The purpose for FCC to make you change to digital TV is because need to free up frequencies spectrum. The analog processing signals are more reliable and can reach vast territories for transmitting data and sound which the Government, Military and many other agencies need.
The purpose of the transition is to stick to a single standard. The frequencies aren't being kept by the government. They have been and are being auctioned off.
Before you come here and berate people for being leeches on society because they want their TVs to keep workig you should at least know what 5 minutes on Google would teach you.
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gmontalc
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25. January 2009 @ 20:04 |
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ONE MORE GOOD REASON FOR KEEPING ALIVE THE ECONOMICAL CRISIS
People, go spend your real cash on new TV's.
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25. January 2009 @ 20:59 |
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the national healthcare comment made me laugh my butt off.....too bad hilary will be out of the country as sec of state to ruin it a second time..........>:)
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26. January 2009 @ 08:24 |
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I'm in the "Git 'er done! Now!" camp. I've been watching digital TV OTA at our summer cottage for 2 years now and want to get this over with! Some channel allocations will move, and some stations will increase power on the digital transmissions. So, many of the stations I have difficulty receiving now will be stronger, better, etc. I never did the coupons. I bought two digi tuners before the program ever started, and since have picked up two new GE converters at a garage sale for $8 each! All work fine except no analog passthrough. This would be useful for Canadian stations I can receive, which, BTW, will not do a mandatory switch for a couple more years.
As people who have digi converters buy new TV's these converter boxes will be a dime a dozen, and will all end up in the landfill. This will eventually include my 4 units.
It's not like people haven't been told about this a million times already....and who can resist buying anything at 80% off regular price!
Let's get it over with, and move on...........
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26. January 2009 @ 20:38 |
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Quote: If you have an analog TV that's more than a year old it probably doesn't have a digital tuner. If it's more than 2 years old it almost certainly doesn't. The people who have continued to buy analog televisions are, by and large, also people for whom a new TV isn't a trivial purchase. Are you suggesting this means they don't deserve to watch TV?
Hmmm... I bought my TV at least two years ago... A cheapy Walmart ... $150 for 27"...
Guess what? It had both Analog and Digital tuners.
I use the digital tuner for local HD digital chanels over the air with no rabbit ears... and the analog to receive my analog crap signal from my cable company.
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IguanaC64
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28. January 2009 @ 11:35 |
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Honestly...this isn't even about the tuners. I've had mine for 3 months now. I hooked them up. TV was unwatchable...it was all digital artifacts and blue screens. I went back to analog. The picture and sound was great when it worked (rarely). Yes...it's the broadcaster's problem...but that makes it de facto my problem. There's no government mandate for broadcasters to improve their signal. Instead I will likely be forced into buying satellite TV even if it's just to catch the news. I have no desire to pay an extra $50+/mo for a television I rarely use.
I will possibly try building my own antenna because it's cheap and easy because I don't even really want to spend $80 for a decent outdoor mast antenna.
This honestly just looks to me like a big gimme to the satellite/cable industry by Bush era cronies...on top of raking in billions from selling the new bandwidth.
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IguanaC64
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28. January 2009 @ 11:36 |
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Pardon...and extra $50+/mo for satellite service which I don't want and will rarely use.
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gsebs
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29. January 2009 @ 22:11 |
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I am surprised USA is not incorpating some sattelite broadcast which could be picked up on a smallish dish for those out of range. I guess all that junk flosting in the skies are now going to be worthless.
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31. January 2009 @ 19:01 |
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If you have at least one of these connections, then YOU"LL NO NEED a CONVERTER BOX.
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31. January 2009 @ 21:09 |
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Originally posted by gmontalc: 


If you have at least one of these connections, then YOU"LL NO NEED a CONVERTER BOX.
Thy ignorance is amusing, there are dozens of component TVs and VCR/DRV/DVDR recording devices that do not have digital TV tuners in them.
Nothing like glazing over the facts with with a grain of truth.
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