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Xbox 360 slim unit shuts down if ventilation is insufficient?

article published on 21 June, 2010

Microsoft's new slim Xbox 360 console will not display a red ring of death (RROD) as we reported already, but the system does take some measures to protect itself against heat-related damage that the older units don't. It was reported recently that the three blinking red lights had been replaced with a single "red dot of death", but the red dot may not indicate that the console is broken. ... [ read the full article ]

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IguanaC64
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2. July 2010 @ 09:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah...I was mostly wanting to know if this meant the new XB360's were *less* reliable than the older models or if this was overaggressive heat management. Regardless of their history, they have gotten more reliable and my wife is starting to ask me for a new system. She wants a PS3, but I think I'd rather get a XBox because I can tinker with it more than I can a PS3. It would be my first Microsoft console after owning 3 PS2's and a Wii (I'm more of a PC gamer than a console gamer...)
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2. July 2010 @ 12:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Can't go wrong pleasing the wife right! What exactly do you want to "tinker" with on a 360 over a PS3? Flashing the drive? Jtag? Adding cooling features?

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2. July 2010 @ 12:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
My kids and guests at my house are not kind to optical media. I always try to set up some method to either play games from a hard drive or use backups. I also like playing emulator stuff for NES/SNES/Genesis/MAME/Etc.

Toward the end of life of these devices, I like experimenting with running stuff like XBMC or FTP/Web server software.
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2. July 2010 @ 12:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Oner:
Can't go wrong pleasing the wife right! What exactly do you want to "tinker" with on a 360 over a PS3? Flashing the drive? Jtag? Adding cooling features?
That's why I own 2 360s...Never an issue but to be fair mine were made after they fixed the RROD issues.

I do plan to buy a PS3....just as soon as they make it easy to "tinker" with! LOL


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2. July 2010 @ 12:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Oh also you know there's a healthy market for those RROD consoles right? They are fairly easy to fix I guess...

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2. July 2010 @ 13:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by dEwMe:
Oh also you know there's a healthy market for those RROD consoles right? They are fairly easy to fix I guess...

I'd believe it...RRoD repair kits are only like $25 from Divineo.
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2. July 2010 @ 14:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@Oner:

Like I said (since were into quoting ourselves)~
Originally posted by Jemborg:
... what's there to break down {in my post}?
...nothing. I was reasonable... anybody with half a brain can see that.

Blah blah blah, whatever Oner. Just more obfuscation, rhetoric, high-handedness and FUD (I love that expression!). Thanks for the "graciousness" rofl.

But ("GOD FORBID" lol) can you stop acting the victim? It's getting tired.

Patently, I was on topic, concerning reliability/failure, in all my posts.

I even asked you a direct on-topic question in my last post... Are you suggesting it isn't too early to dump on the new model?

Sigh, I was really hoping you had more real experience in the actual field rather than just being a dilettante. It's rather astonishing that you tout yourself as more of an expert in this than registered business people that actually repair consoles for a living. (These guys repair vintage consoles too btw.)

(I'm not sure whether to drop their website here. Would that be considered spruking?)

I'll take you to task because you go overboard. They're all (including the Wii) ok machines. Competition benefits all of us; as much as they'd love to jerk the consumer around ordinarily... someone (M Trebilcock- great name!) is taking Sony to court over the latest PS3 upgrade in my homestate ~ he's crazy or confident, coz I'd just buy a new one... or a netbook.

I won't be pretentious enough to formally "quote" myself again but I'll suggest that anyone with real concerns should adopt a simple wait and see attitude. But that's doesn't beg a need to be pessimistic... especially to the people who've already bought one. As I wrote, anybody who thinks that MS have not tried to address the overheating issues with the brand new model has a fool for a mentor or has an agenda.

Meanwhile this silly article should be taken for what it is... hyperbole over a ordinary straightforward cutout circuit. Big deal.

PS: Meanwhile meanwhile, I'm back off to my new rather excellent HD 5970 and Xpadder for a good game.

Its a lot easier being righteous than right.

DSE VZ300-
Zilog Z80 CPU, 32KB RAM (16K+16K cartridge), video processor 6847, 2KB video RAM, 16 colours (text mode), 5.25" FDD

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Originally posted by IguanaC64:
Yeah...I was mostly wanting to know if this meant the new XB360's were *less* reliable than the older models or if this was overaggressive heat management. Regardless of their history, they have gotten more reliable and my wife is starting to ask me for a new system. She wants a PS3, but I think I'd rather get a XBox because I can tinker with it more than I can a PS3. It would be my first Microsoft console after owning 3 PS2's and a Wii (I'm more of a PC gamer than a console gamer...)
I'd adopt a wait and see attitude with that too Iggy. It may be rather tricky to "tinker" with the new model yet. As you probably know, MS made it more difficult to mod with later models so chances are they stepped it up another notch. But maybe not, I'll ask around. But I'm on the same page, I find that aspect appealing too. Better to bugger up a backup and/or play off HDD plus I prefer my PC nowadays too haha.. 1080p (or higher) rulez bro!... and I do like a bit of retro.

Often those repair kits are unfortunately a bit iffy mate. If a X360 buggers up it's fix is often temporary, on account of the crap solder used. Still, I recall the use of flux as part of the best fix.

Ah, here ya go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2R_NqF5wAc

Its a lot easier being righteous than right.

DSE VZ300-
Zilog Z80 CPU, 32KB RAM (16K+16K cartridge), video processor 6847, 2KB video RAM, 16 colours (text mode), 5.25" FDD

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2. July 2010 @ 16:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Jemborg:
@Oner:

Like I said (since were into quoting ourselves)~
Originally posted by Jemborg:
... what's there to break down {in my post}?
...nothing. I was reasonable... anybody with half a brain can see that.

Blah blah blah, whatever Oner. Just more obfuscation, rhetoric, high-handedness and FUD (I love that expression!). Thanks for the "graciousness" rofl.

But ("GOD FORBID" lol) can you stop acting the victim? It's getting tired.

Patently, I was on topic, concerning reliability/failure, in all my posts.

I even asked you a direct on-topic question in my last post... Are you suggesting it isn't too early to dump on the new model?

Sigh, I was really hoping you had more real experience in the actual field rather than just being a dilettante. It's rather astonishing that you tout yourself as more of an expert in this than registered business people that actually repair consoles for a living. (These guys repair vintage consoles too btw.)

(I'm not sure whether to drop their website here. Would that be considered spruking?)

I'll take you to task because you go overboard. They're all (including the Wii) ok machines. Competition benefits all of us; as much as they'd love to jerk the consumer around ordinarily... someone (M Trebilcock- great name!) is taking Sony to court over the latest PS3 upgrade in my homestate ~ he's crazy or confident, coz I'd just buy a new one... or a netbook.

I won't be pretentious enough to formally "quote" myself again but I'll suggest that anyone with real concerns should adopt a simple wait and see attitude. But that's doesn't beg a need to be pessimistic... especially to the people who've already bought one. As I wrote, anybody who thinks that MS have not tried to address the overheating issues with the brand new model has a fool for a mentor or has an agenda.

Meanwhile this silly article should be taken for what it is... hyperbole over a ordinary straightforward cutout circuit. Big deal.

PS: Meanwhile meanwhile, I'm back off to my new rather excellent HD 5970 and Xpadder for a good game.
So let me get this straight ~ first you say I am gloating. When I am not. Then you call me out on having 6 RROD's or owning 6 360's as you misinterpreted. Only for me to explain I have only owned 1 360. To then you bringing in PS3 Blu-ray issues into this for some odd reason. To then accuse me of not even owning a 360. Only for me to prove you wrong (as usual) and you didn't even excuse yourself for that "mistake". To then STILL continue trolling/instigating something with me specifically asking about my "expertise" and such, when I did not start anything with you personally (only defending myself to your constant baseless false accusations & trolling). And then you try and finish it off by making it seem as you did nothing by saying I am "playing" a victim here, when the proof is right here in black and white for everyones verification to see your incessant nagging and badgering at me on a personal level...um yeah, Okay.

I don't need to play these games with you. Been there, done that. Just as those mentioned before you who take it to a personal level, instead of just disagreeing, making a point of discussion and/or simply moving on. THAT is where you and the others, always fail. Even when I try to avoid the issue and tell you I am not going to bother breaking down your "points" to prevent an argument you STILL take it to a PERSONAL level/issue. What does what I do for a living have to do with the abysmal and unacceptable failure rates that is a known occurrence on the 360? SERIOUSLY! What does my personal life have to do with ANY OF THIS? Why bring ONER personally into the discussion? Meanwhile your assumptions that I do not have any experience with console repairs (when I absolutely do) DOESN'T even cross your mind...just because I didn't say I don't doesn't mean I don't. I only gave you what I wanted you to know about me and nothing more, because it's none of your God Damned business what I do for a living.

As I have said, I have known your angle for a loooong time. It's clear as day and you keep trying to push my buttons. Well don't bitch when I push back; as there has been more than enough warning.

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2. July 2010 @ 22:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Pfft... whatever.

Go back and read my posts a bit more carefully mate.

I've taken nothing personally... I've just found it risible. After all, I didn't send a photo back. My question about what you did for a living was obviously only essentially rhetorical.

The question I did want you to answer Oner was: Are you suggesting it isn't too early to dump on the new model?

I'd have to repeat myself further to counter those false claims about being off-topic etc. I did not say you had no experience in repairs- just not much in my opinion in comparison to people working in the biz. So politely I ask you to please stop putting words in my mouth... again.

There's no need to resort to threats. As you said, why should it bother you if I have trouble believing you? Is it trolling if someone dares question you?

Its a lot easier being righteous than right.

DSE VZ300-
Zilog Z80 CPU, 32KB RAM (16K+16K cartridge), video processor 6847, 2KB video RAM, 16 colours (text mode), 5.25" FDD

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3. July 2010 @ 13:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Jemborg:
Pfft... whatever.

Go back and read my posts a bit more carefully mate.

I've taken nothing personally... I've just found it risible. After all, I didn't send a photo back. My question about what you did for a living was obviously only essentially rhetorical.

The question I did want you to answer Oner was: Are you suggesting it isn't too early to dump on the new model?

I'd have to repeat myself further to counter those false claims about being off-topic etc. I did not say you had no experience in repairs- just not much in my opinion in comparison to people working in the biz. So politely I ask you to please stop putting words in my mouth... again.

There's no need to resort to threats. As you said, why should it bother you if I have trouble believing you? Is it trolling if someone dares question you?

To answer your "question" quickly about if it's not too early to dump on the new 360? No it's not. Especially since they should have released a working model 5 years ago with the additional items it currently has i.e. a big HDD, WiFi & Etc. But I will get to the heart of your comment now ~

There is an absolute clear difference between someone asking a question and someone with a proven, documented, verifiable & consistent trolling agenda that is obviously filled with malcontent behind/in it. That is your angle towards me and what you specifically attempt to do (just as those I named earlier) and the proof is there. As I said ~ don't bitch when you get pushed back, because it sure looks like you are making up excuses to cover your ass now.

And since there is no more real discussion about this topic by other forum members I believe it is best to close this thread to end this BS comical charade.

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