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Is the Problem Nero or DVD2One?
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30. May 2004 @ 08:03 |
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Nero does well but I've had better success with large type 9 DVDs using DVD2One.
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mark666
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30. May 2004 @ 10:42 |
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brobear you say.
(I am not getting into an issue of which is best).
When did i mention which is best.Actually said,Interested to see if theirs any difference between the two.I haven't even said there are better programs than Nero.If it works for you then stick with it.
I would like to see if the extra time with recode is worth the wait.If the results are better on long movies then thats the way to go.Looks to me like your just looking for problems that aren't there.
bigorange
Thanks for the advice,cant wait to give it a try.
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30. May 2004 @ 11:39 |
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Mark666
Grow up. You're trying to make an issue where there isn't one. One minute you're saying Nero is crap and full of bugs and next singing the laurels of other programs. Then you say you're going to try it. Note the Members have their favorites and most of these programs have their plus and minus points. When you said, "Aero300 compressed with DVD2One not Nero recode",I was well aware of that. I mentioned recode because it was one of the newer assets of the Nero Suite. Aero300 can't use Recode due to it's system requirements. The Nero Burning ROM was a good choice due to low sytem requirements. In fact it is good for a number of different programs that need it. I realize there are a several good burners out there and I have some of them and use them to. Nero just happens to be easier to use due to the quick start console.
The thread got sidetracked and the original person we were trying to help hasn't returned. So a discussion of softwares ensued. The ones mentioned are mostly good. The ones I mentioned function flawlessly on my system. I also noted a lot of this software is a matter of preference.
So, stop trying to take pot shots at members and try to be constructive. There are a lot more bad software users than bad software. Thats all I have to say about it unless Aero comes back for assistance.
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30. May 2004 @ 12:26 |
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May I suggest you go back and re-read the previous threads.I didn't say Nero was crap.Yes buggy and not without its problems. The thread got sidetracked because you provided information that the original poster never requested.We were in fact discussing the burning aspect not the compression that is why I will try recode.Why would I want to take pot shots when all I want to do is help another member which in my view is constructive.Again,go back and read the previous threads and hopefully you will see this.Perhaps Aero 300 hasn't returned because he has been bamboozled with a lot of irrelevant information.
And that's all I've got to say on the matter.
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30. May 2004 @ 12:46 |
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Good that means we don't have to listen to any more of that juvenile testosterone trip drivel of yours. I did read the threads. You're talking about things you have no idea about. You can't solve problems unless you know the theory or had the problem and solved it yourself. If you don't understand what compression has to do with burning, you're in the wrong place. All the data that has been compressed is streaming to the burner, the process entails a large data transfer for a continuous period of time. So you have more than just a little disc being zapped with a laser. That transfer and the burning process together tax the systems resources (CPU - RAM). So it is a matter of different things going on at the same time. Do you understand 'cumulative effect'. The man had a low capacity machine.
If it was just a bug in Nero, He could delete it and reload and the problem would be solved. I went by the man's components and diagnosed his system and gave him options, which he said he would try.
You say buggy, I assumed one could infer you meant crap, as you put Nero down so much. Read the strings, most of the members concurr that Nero is a good program. The program is being used by over 120,000,000 people (read the zeros). PC Magazine said it was one of the top ten best buys. It has won international software awards. So you in your infinite wisdom, you say that it is full of bugs, buggy. Get real.
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30. May 2004 @ 12:58 |
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It's just a pity you didn't understand them. Hopefully we won't have to listen to your arrogant convoluted spec obsessed (sorry, tech conscious)waffle. But I doubt it.
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30. May 2004 @ 13:39 |
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30. May 2004 @ 13:40 |
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Normally I wouldn't repeat myself. But some people have trouble reading with comprehension. I'll point it out. Read the reasoning and then look to what you were saying. You're a joke.
Good that means we don't have to listen to any more of that juvenile testosterone trip drivel of yours. I did read the threads. You're talking about things you have no idea about. You can't solve problems unless you know the theory or had the problem and solved it yourself. If you don't understand what compression has to do with burning, you're in the wrong place. All the data that has been compressed is streaming to the burner, the process entails a large data transfer for a continuous period of time. So you have more than just a little disc being zapped with a laser. That transfer and the burning process together tax the systems resources (CPU - RAM). So it is a matter of different things going on at the same time. Do you understand 'cumulative effect'. The man had a low capacity machine.
If it was just a bug in Nero, He could delete it and reload and the problem would be solved. I went by the man's components and diagnosed his system and gave him options, which he said he would try.
You say buggy, I assumed one could infer you meant crap, as you put Nero down so much. Read the strings, most of the members concurr that Nero is a good program. The program is being used by over 120,000,000 people (read the zeros). PC Magazine said it was one of the top ten best buys. It has won international software awards. So you in your infinite wisdom, you say that it is full of bugs, buggy. Get real.
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30. May 2004 @ 14:34 |
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30. May 2004 @ 14:39 |
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Enough said
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30. May 2004 @ 15:50 |
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Took a nap, is it safe to enter? Up all nite on this thread, don't know about my penis, but I'm certainly dragging. I think we can safely say nero 6 and dvd2one are both excellent programs. Let's talk about Roxio products, I think everyone agrees they suck! signed: leery, but back in action. BTW has anyone seen aero, he started this thread. Hope he's OK 
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30. May 2004 @ 21:47 |
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30. May 2004 @ 23:44 |
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brobear
After all your convoluted waffle.You really do need to ask a grown up what convoluted means.It would cut your threads down by at least two thirds. The only advice you offered was to upgrade or replace his computer.Hum that sounds like good advice.
It would seem that you are so full of self importance that you can not see the woods for the trees.Not understanding burning /compression well your entitled to your bizarre opinion.Just because I don't bore people to death with long winded irrelevant babel doesn't mean that I don't understand.If you had any good sense you might understand what people are trying to say instead of the blinkered view you seem to take. Maybe a night out would do you some good.
As for Sophocles I'm not even going there as I have better things to do and this could turn into a full time job.
Now its time to coil up the limp penis and leave the building.
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31. May 2004 @ 06:01 |
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31. May 2004 @ 16:13 |
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31. May 2004 @ 16:37 |
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22. June 2004 @ 19:37 |
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Nero is good. Tennessee Volunteers are lucky. Cornhuskers are GREAT. Life is good. I use DVDDECRYPTER, then make it region free. 2. DVD2One 1.4 ver, then Nero 6 Ultra edition to burn DVD-MOVIE in selection. Q Always make a folder called "Movie name_BURN" and then make another folder in that called VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS and point to the target as the VIDEO_TS folder when in DVD2One. Never a coaster..ever.
PS>> Tennessee is good football team and Nebraska needs to fire the athletic director not the coach!
Cheers!
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22. June 2004 @ 20:04 |
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I hope you mean they are lucky in that they have a good coach and athletic director, not lucky to win games. They have the highest winning % in the country being in the SEC, probably the tuffest conference in the country. Nebraska is a consistently good team every year also, but they don't have the schedule UT does. It's almost impossible to go undefeated in the SEC. This year alone we play Florida, Auburn, Georgia, Alabama, And Notre Dame. Nebraska plays Oklahoma, Pittsburg(questionable) ,Colorado, and oh yeah Kansas(?). BTW, welcome to AD.
GO VOLS !
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22. June 2004 @ 20:31 |
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Hey VLJ,
Thought this thread had died a sorry death. You forgot the Basketball Wildcats. I'm a Big Orange football fan as well. I'm one of those border ruffians.
Some good choices on the software. Good choice on the Decrypter. Powerful tool and has worked well for me a long time. Don't know why you want to go region free all the time. DVD Decrypter will reset the region code to whatever you want. The new version has a pop up screen that addresses just that issue. If you don't have the latest version, check it out.
DVD2one is a good program no doubt. But I don't use it all the time. I use it pretty much for flippers and 2 disc movies. And yes, the Nero Burning ROM is one of the best on the market.
Now with all that said, and since you have the Nero Ultra (which should have Recode2), try opening the Recode2 and importing one of those DVD Decrypter movie files. You'll be in for a pleasant surprise.
And since you're moving up on the learning curve, why don't you give the ISO read mode a little workout and put some ISO files on the HD? With an emulator like Daemon, the software will read the file like a disc. I've had flawless success with the ISO. Decrypt with DVD Decrypter in ISO read mode, load the ISO file into the emulator Daemon (another freebie), the software of choice can then pick up the simulated drive and use the file as it would normally use a disc. With ISO read you only get 2 files, the ISO and an MDS. The mds if for the software and the ISO is the entire movie file which you use. A program like Recode 2 can edit out any of the files you want to delete. You can split it down to movie only. You can even set different compression levels for segments in a recording. I'll usually compress the menus and extras so the movie will have less compression when I do an entire disc. And I get good results with high capacity movie discs.
The only reason I would consider using the IFO now would be for multi angle support (you gotta check the box). It is so rare that I want to switch an angle, I haven't used it. 'Others' is about the only multi angle movie, other than a bunch of the Disneys, that use the multi angle format that I've encountered. How often do you switch the angle even when they're there?
Saves a lot of chasing down files when using ISO, unless you just enjoy the process. We get caught in our own habits sometimes. Happy burning and remember the old saying, there's more than one way to skin a cat. Lots of good software and more than one way to do the job. Try some of the stuff I mentioned, nothing to buy and if nothing else, an entertaining way to kill a rainy afternoon.
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22. June 2004 @ 20:36 |
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brobear, there's a new version of decrypter? I've been using the same one for 6 months now. What's the diff? sometimes the newer version is worse than the old one, case in point, rebuilder v.53.
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22. June 2004 @ 20:54 |
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Pretty much the same Big O, just a few improvements. I was so complacent, I used the version I had until recently. I noticed the multi angle support in IFO, one of Pete's issues. I agree with Sophocles that the problem tends to be more in the recording software than in the decrypted files. Then there is the new region setting screen that will pop up sometimes. Basicly the same good old Decrypter with some improvements. It still does the same great job of decrypting, if not better in the IFO mode. But then, I'm an ISO fan.
Just so ye all know. I learned with IFO and made the choice to use ISO after learning both methods.
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22. June 2004 @ 20:59 |
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version 3.2.2.0 is the number. That pop up region control makes it a more internationally friendly program.
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23. June 2004 @ 09:18 |
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Thanks for the "welcome". I actually only make all the movies region free because I can. Kind of like Overclocking my CPU sometimes... just because I can. I always thought if there was someone in Germany to exchange DVD's with it would be kind of intersting. I could watch German dubbed films and they could watch English language originated films. I really would like to get ahold of a German "American" movie with the subtitles still in there as English. I think it would be educational.
Nebraska has lost a lot of steam and credibility these past few years and firing the head coah won't make a lot of die-hard fans happy.
Brobear I'll have to give those ideas of your a go. I highlighted and printed them out to read later in the actually process.
I have used Nero Vision express to take the MPEG-2 files I created from my 8mm camcorder, (into the computer via my Leatek WinFast 2000 Xpert card) and make a home movie out of it on DVD. The problem is, that the Leadtek makes a great MPEG-2 compressed file and does break them appart at the proper size (I have FAT32), but when I get the movie ready to burn to DVD the silly program re-codes everything and now I end up with less quality than the originals. It does make IFO files, VOB files, and all the compliant stuff but recoding just adds another grain of loss to the whole thing.
I've heard things about Ulead Video Studio 9 for doing some good 8mm to DVD compliant stuff. Any thoughts? I really bought Nero 6 Ultra to do this job as it has Nero Vision Express and thought it would do a good job. It does an 'average' job. Does make chapters.. does make VOB files, does make titles.. Does not make high quality DVD files though.. not all the time.
Vern
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24. June 2004 @ 18:28 |
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One word of advice. Upgrade to the NTFS system. Fat has a file size limitation. It has to split files above 4GB. As for the 8mm, you left my field of expertise. Sophocles appears to be more knowledgable along those lines. You might want to post the question on the Digital Video Discussion section here at AD. I've heard Sophocles mention video capture and DVD, so if you can track him down, he might be of assistance.
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