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31. May 2004 @ 19:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
There are only two types of product what is on the drawing board and what you buy is obsolete. It's still a good card so enjoy it.

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31. May 2004 @ 20:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
LOL if you follow hardware trends you'll realize that its prolly best to buy 2 or 3 cards from the absolute best (i.e., midrange cards) and every so often, make the big leap when certain opportunities present themselves (for this you have to also have a feel for the gaming industry)

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For instance some of the major landmarks were: TNT, TNT2, GeForce256, GeForce3, GeForce6800 or equivalently, Rage128, Radeon, Radeon9800, X800. Aside fromt those "landmarks" its prolly better (financially) to buy a card or two from the top :)

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31. May 2004 @ 20:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
the one i got wasnt at the top...it was close..top 5 i would say...but its still really good...just the price has gone down quite a bit...same as the cpu...but i expected that..i got the athlon 64 3200+ right when it came out(i had waited like 5 months for it to come out)

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31. May 2004 @ 20:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hehe I bought the Matrox Mystique 4MB, TNT2, GeForce2MX, GeForce4Ti4400, traded (for free) to my GeForce4Ti4600 and seriously considered buying a GFX5700 but i didnt so i can now trade in for a 6800U-EE which should last me prolly 2 generations of games.

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31. May 2004 @ 20:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hey Praetor never think anything in a computer will last....by the end of the year, everyones comp whos is great now...we will old, and slow..lol

i would go back and forth all night, but i gotta sleep too..lol

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31. May 2004 @ 20:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I didnt say it would last forever but that i would expect it to last 2 generations which is hardly unreasonable considering my current system, while not top of the line is certainly not obsolete. :)

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31. May 2004 @ 20:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
2 generations mmight be pushing it a little, but hey who knows?

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1. June 2004 @ 06:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It might be but for the amount im gonna spend on the 6800U-EE it will be fine (lets not forget the GF4Ti series has been good for 3 generations of games).

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1. June 2004 @ 07:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I am a fairweather fan when it comes to video cards. When I bought my geforce 3 it crushed ati's best at the time. When Ati intoduced the 9700 pro I quickly changed my opinion of them.

I can't wait until we actually see some games that punish the new generation of cards. Does anyone know when Doom 3 and Half life 2 are being released?

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1. June 2004 @ 07:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Doom3 = "this year"
Haflife2 = who gives crap? (:P can you tell i hate hatelife? ;-) )

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1. June 2004 @ 07:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ha Ha,

Yes, I am quite disappointed as well
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I'm not upgrading until I can get a mobo that supports PCI Express and DDR2, hopefully from Abit.

Once I can, I'd like to slap in a pair of Hitachi's new 300GB 10,000 rpm SATA hard drives using the Matrix RAID Intel's going to use in it's Grantsdale chipset - part of the drives run RAID 0 and the other part are RAID 1 for security. Melikes the idea :)

http://www.dvhardware.net/article2193.html


It'll also get a PC Power & Cooling Turbo 510 PSU, a dual layer 8X DVD burner, and the best ATI card at the time. I'll wrap it all up in anything but a fugly Xaser case, probably something from Coolermaster or Lian-Li.

This may sound more "real world" than "dream" but with my current budget it definitely qualifies as a dream :)



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1. June 2004 @ 08:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hehe back on topic ... add this cooler -- more effective than the 'classic' Lightspeed AC cooler because you can use any case with this.
http://www.vapochill.com/main/page.asp?sideid=402
Just check out the unit! :P

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Once I can, I'd like to slap in a pair of Hitachi's new 300GB 10,000 rpm SATA hard drives
Why them .. Hitachi makes 400GB drives too :P

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10,000 rpm vs. 7,200 rpm!

I'm obsessive/compulsive about hard drive space so 300GB (half the matrix RAID) would be more than enough for me :)



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1. June 2004 @ 13:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
LOL i recall saying
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I'm obsessive/compulsive about hard drive space so 300GB (half the matrix RAID) would be more than enough for me :)
I recall when i said "xxx GB is more than enough for me" or even when i said "xxx is a silly amount of hdd space" -- im looking into NAS now :P

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1. June 2004 @ 14:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
400gb!? what could u do with some much memory?

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1. June 2004 @ 19:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
1. Harddrive space not memory.
2. I can fill 400GB easily. Prolly take me less than two/three months to do. Course im crazy so that factor prolly dont affect everyone.
3. 400GB isnt that much i run through 480GB in less than one month if i chose to (i did for a bet once) but typically i cycle through half a terabyte every two or three months. You'd be surprised how fast it goes away.

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1. June 2004 @ 19:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hard drives are often referred to as virtual memory, it's where we have our swap files and paging files but it is secondary storage. Memory is all the shit you see and play with visually on your screen. It allows for adjustments in all kinds of areas in real time, until it runs out, and then it hands the stuff it can't handle off to your hard disk. A faster hard disk translates to faster virtual memory and since the hard disk is often the major bottle neck in a system, which means the faster it is the better it is.

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1. June 2004 @ 20:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Hard drives are often referred to as virtual memory
You mean files on the disc are called virtual memory: I know I might be picky but its a distinction that should be made as I've seen too many people loosely (and incorrectly) interchange the two words :)

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2. June 2004 @ 05:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
A minor distinction but a correct one. I stated that, Hard disks are "often referred to as virtual memory" and then cleared it up by going strait to swap and paging files relationship to the hard disk. You however go right ahead and be picky because it keeps me on my toes. Now if it can just get me outside to spend a little more time enjoying my pool instead of my electornics. After all this is suny Florida. Wait! I can't do that my New Plextor PX-712A is expected to arrive at any moment.

I wonder if this is how an alcoholic sounds when they rationalize a reason to have that next drink.

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You however go right ahead and be picky because it keeps me on my toes
Im only picky because I once didnt understand the distinction between RAM and harddisk space :P

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2. June 2004 @ 06:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I know the distinction but sometimes it's just easier to explain it by presenting the hard disks role in it first.

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2. June 2004 @ 06:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
True, good call! :)

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2. June 2004 @ 18:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
what the hell do u do on ur comp Praetor??...i think i use alot cuz i have 280 gigs (120 and 160 gig)

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2. June 2004 @ 18:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Does this mean that this480GB [3x160GB, 7200, 8MB]" isn't true? LOL

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