|
Geohot insults Sony, but denies any involvement with PSN breach
|
|
The following comments relate to this news article:
article published on 28 April, 2011
Not that he really had, George "Geohot" Hotz has denied all involvement with the recent PSN security breach.
For our latest coverage on the hack that got 77 million people's personal info stolen, check here: Sony sees first lawsuit over massive PSN security hack
Taking some parting shots at Sony but denying all involvement, Geohot wrote out a long blog post.
Hotz recently settled ... [ read the full article ]
Please read the original article before posting your comments.
|
|
ps3lvanub
Suspended due to non-functional email address
|
29. April 2011 @ 17:57 |
Link to this message
|
Originally posted by matt75371:
I see the hackers who were responsible for stealing the data as a part of the problem. With that in mind I don't think anonymous is to blame for any of this. Granted that anonymous brought this issue into bigger light they are not the culprit. I agree with ThePastor that the consumers are getting really tired of getting shafted by these huge corporations. Video game prices are through the roof and the consoles to play them aren't getting any cheaper either. Putting the price rant aside :D the whole issue comes down to whether or not you are free to do what you wish with a product you paid for. In my opinion you are and if you agree with that then sony is in the wrong. If you disagree and think that the computer you're visiting this website with is still ownership of the manufacturer (dell, asus what have you) and that installation of linux on your system or on any other hardware (routers, phones... etc) is illegal then sony is right. In my eyes if you think that... you should probably visit a local hospital and get registered for an MRI scan. :P
If this was Facebook I would 'like' this. :)
IMPORTANT: If you hate Sony for being so corrupt, copy this image into your signature too! |
|
Advertisement
|
|
|
|
|
Frogfart
Member
|
29. April 2011 @ 18:14 |
Link to this message
|
Sony have given away all our details and I hope that Mastercard and Visa go after Sony for any loses. But it will be me and you who get shafted as the big boys close ranks and blame us for poor passwords and security.
|
|
senator29
Junior Member
|
29. April 2011 @ 18:22 |
Link to this message
|
Hackers are not responsible for this at all.
One can start an argument or problem but not be responsible for the outcome.
This is a perfect example. Hackers created a situation and Sony did a pi$$ poor job of handling it.
they should have just stuck with banning hacked consoles online and be done with it. However, Sony failed yet again with security. So hacking PS3 consoles would lead to security breaches and Sony knew this but wouldn't admit to it.
Sony should have allowed the OtherOS but spent much less money then making it more secure. They are looking to spend BILLIONS now with the mess they have gotten into. They also should have allowed a third OS (OtherOS - 1, GameOS - 2). The third OS would be for homebrew. A tightly secured environment for people to play in and create their own stuff including games if so desired. Internet access to user created online environments for whatever purpose the user chooses to create.
Hire a team of top of class programmers, say about 20, and a top of class security team of about 20 and pay them 100k for a 6 month contract and amazing things can happen. You are talking 4 million bucks, that alone has probably been spent 10 fold on all the raids, lawyer fees and online searching for "illegal content".
I actually was thinking of buying a Sony Android tablet but not after the past several months and Sony's behavior.
|
|
brockie
Member
|
29. April 2011 @ 18:37 |
Link to this message
|
this twat started the whole thing just go away you fame hungry nob. homebrew is just a load of old crap the real reason for the hack is to play pirated games.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 29. April 2011 @ 18:59
|
|
senator29
Junior Member
|
29. April 2011 @ 20:31 |
Link to this message
|
we have a winner!
my ps3 is still virgin. i barely play games. spend more time playing around with user creations on the computer. thanks.
homebrew on wii is huge. lots to choose from. xbox i do not know and do not care.
ps2 will go down in history books as biggest pirated console. that hurts this scene more than anything.
and i am not quite sure how posting here gains me any fame. grow up.
|
|
coorva
Suspended due to non-functional email address
|
29. April 2011 @ 23:46 |
Link to this message
|
going with PC gaming,less bullsh**t and crysis 2 is going to pc,,
microsoft after a ban wave |
AfterDawn Addict
1 product review
|
30. April 2011 @ 00:33 |
Link to this message
|
Originally posted by LordRuss:
Originally posted by Oner:
But you can't modify the gun to shoot fully automatic as that's illegal now isn't it? You can add parts either internally and externally to customize it to your liking/needs to an extent, but when it crosses a line of which that is not within the law anymore you are doing something illegal. That seems to be the better analogy in this case.
We're not talking about a firearm here. The same could be spoken in proper context of an automobile (although taking a PS3 out for a spin is probably still a bit out of the question). After purchasing the car, you can modify it to the n'th degree. There is no repercussions other than those that have a warranty on the modifying parts.
What I believe has gotten out of hand over all (in the whole scheme of things here) is that Greed has believed itself to have full control over human beings and not the situation.
Sony & corporations like them need to stop trying to control the human factor & try to maintain control over their situations; otherwise this continuous over-swing of the pendulum is going to find itself becoming a propeller of doom.
Wouldn't the most logical analogy be a computer? After all, this is all we want...the capabilities that you get with a PC...or at least some of the more basic ones. Can't play a video on your PC? Download some freeware and it plays just fine. Want to stop disk swapping? Download daemon tools. Feel like playing some old abandonware? It downloads in seconds with a modern connection.
|
Senior Member
|
30. April 2011 @ 03:17 |
Link to this message
|
Originally posted by budro:
LMFAO!
Hotz is not only funny, but right in so many ways lol. I've got nothing to argue about haha
I agree. Hotz know how far he can carried himself !
Live Free or Die.
The rule above all the rules is: Survive !
Capitalism: Funnel most of the $$$ to the already rich.
|
|
dEwMe
Senior Member
|
30. April 2011 @ 09:51 |
Link to this message
|
Ya know I think this is all fallout from $ony being "Unhackable" for so long. Turns out the PS3 wasn't and neither was PSN. I wonder if $ony has shaken off their mindset of being "Unhackable" now? Or maybe we'll see where they get hit next?
Just my $0.02,
dEwMe
|
AfterDawn Addict
23 product reviews
|
30. April 2011 @ 11:27 |
Link to this message
|
Originally posted by dEwMe:
Ya know I think this is all fallout from $ony being "Unhackable" for so long. Turns out the PS3 wasn't and neither was PSN. I wonder if $ony has shaken off their mindset of being "Unhackable" now? Or maybe we'll see where they get hit next?
Sony never thought this would happen. As a massive company, it should be common sense that anything can happen. Sony cut corners in security, everybody knows that and shame to Sony for it.
Come on, all my personal info, not encrypted? Are you kidding me?
|
Member
|
30. April 2011 @ 12:25 |
Link to this message
|
ok everyone has had their chance to weigh in now its my turn .. : first .."Geohot" created a tool to make a product that he bought not rented or lease ( leased means he could bring it back and get another even if it breaks Sony wont take it back unless its in a very small window or has extended warrenty) so it was his to do what he wants . the same goes for anyone with a deisel motor who wants to run fry grease in it, its theirs. enuff said on that..second Sony had all our info and it was just sitting there for someone to come along and take it... ( wonder if they fired anyone at Sony with that clearance...?) oh , come on it was just sitting there... unprotected are they crazy or are we for trusting them...3rd so the thief waits 2 years and releases all our info to the wild who pays then Sony gave you free stuff so they are off the hook and the consumer is left holding the bag yet again .. and we exspect any diffrent outcome ... really are we all alittle bit mad........
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 30. April 2011 @ 12:26
|
|
SomeBozo
Member
2 product reviews
|
30. April 2011 @ 13:10 |
Link to this message
|
Originally posted by core2kid:
Originally posted by dEwMe:
Ya know I think this is all fallout from $ony being "Unhackable" for so long. Turns out the PS3 wasn't and neither was PSN. I wonder if $ony has shaken off their mindset of being "Unhackable" now? Or maybe we'll see where they get hit next?
Sony never thought this would happen. As a massive company, it should be common sense that anything can happen. Sony cut corners in security, everybody knows that and shame to Sony for it.
Come on, all my personal info, not encrypted? Are you kidding me?
I agree 100% with you personal data should not be in the clear and always encrypted.
What i'm waiting for that concerns me, we all have probably called tech support for an issue to put up with someone as stupid with a bad accent as one here in the U.S... Anyway I'm certain many companies that are medical, financial, or anything else that carries sensitive data will never have as much respect for the data as they are nearly completely removed from any accountability, and these companies either let personal information out or have security breach too...
|
|
cazer
Member
1 product review
|
30. April 2011 @ 13:21 |
Link to this message
|
Originally posted by KillerBug:
Originally posted by LordRuss:
Originally posted by Oner:
But you can't modify the gun to shoot fully automatic as that's illegal now isn't it? You can add parts either internally and externally to customize it to your liking/needs to an extent, but when it crosses a line of which that is not within the law anymore you are doing something illegal. That seems to be the better analogy in this case.
We're not talking about a firearm here. The same could be spoken in proper context of an automobile (although taking a PS3 out for a spin is probably still a bit out of the question). After purchasing the car, you can modify it to the n'th degree. There is no repercussions other than those that have a warranty on the modifying parts.
What I believe has gotten out of hand over all (in the whole scheme of things here) is that Greed has believed itself to have full control over human beings and not the situation.
Sony & corporations like them need to stop trying to control the human factor & try to maintain control over their situations; otherwise this continuous over-swing of the pendulum is going to find itself becoming a propeller of doom.
Wouldn't the most logical analogy be a computer? After all, this is all we want...the capabilities that you get with a PC...or at least some of the more basic ones. Can't play a video on your PC? Download some freeware and it plays just fine. Want to stop disk swapping? Download daemon tools. Feel like playing some old abandonware? It downloads in seconds with a modern connection.
neither would be good analogy really. yes you can mod a car all you want but that does not mean you can drive it on public streets. as for a pc they are made to be modded by upgrading parts and software. and by using software made by companys that did not make the pc. sony made the ps3 to run only what they said could be ran on it. the ps3 is a closed unit.
|
Senior Member
1 product review
|
30. April 2011 @ 13:54 |
Link to this message
|
Sony is arrogant to think that they wouldn't lose any funds/money from any kind of computer threat. I'm beginning to believe that their understanding is, "So what if the plebes lose their little paltry sums... Let them fumble about re-locating their identities. We are ____ (whoever the upper echelons are), we don't have to lower ourselves to such manual tacks."
Maybe that sounds snotty on my behalf, but for some of you guys starting out in life and some of you guys that have forked over a boat load of cash for our kids online crap over the years like I have, you just might be getting tired of this shit.
Geohot is an ego maniac with a keyboard: hell, so am I. Check out the blog if you don't think so. Russell's World
But I don't condone anarchy against human rights, just stupidity.
You "can" run the car on the road and you "can" run the software on the computer and you "can" run "whatever" you want on the PS3... you "can NOT" be STUPID about it. NOTHING is a "closed" system. Thus the previous statement, "Sony & corporations like them need to stop trying to control the human factor..."
If they want to completely control their device (PS3) then they shouldn't sell it to begin with. Curiosity (just like their propensity for Greed) can not be squelched. Therefore people are always going to want to know the 4W's & H to the inner workings.
Anything done outside a "closed unit's" warranty is considered exclusionary. No manufacturer will give you the time of day when it comes to repairs on most devices when a warranty is out. Otherwise the repair incurred is so astronomical it merits purchasing a new device anyway. Which leads to idle hands with the broken original during down time.
Aaahh... This deserves a Blog... I'll try to have that out by Sunday morning US time... This is just too good. Thanks guys.
|
|
Zoo_Look
Suspended permanently
|
30. April 2011 @ 14:25 |
Link to this message
|
|
Ultimately, I will be glad when this guy stops media-whoring the internet. There are far more worthy causes for you all to argue about you know!
|
|
cazer
Member
1 product review
|
30. April 2011 @ 15:58 |
Link to this message
|
|
@lordruss
dont think you can take grave digger down to the store for some milk. well you could but i dont think the cops would like it and you would find yourself i some trouble. dont think they would like a stockcar on the road. also i never said you could not! i said it was not ment! big differents.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 30. April 2011 @ 20:51
|
Senior Member
1 product review
|
30. April 2011 @ 17:56 |
Link to this message
|
Originally posted by cazer:
@lordruss
dont think you can take grave digger down to the store for some milk. well you could but i dont think yhe cops would like it and you would find yourself i some trouble. dont think they would like a stockcar on the road. also i never said you could not! i said it was not ment! big differents.
True, very true. I would venture a guess that I would garner a LOT of attention. I'm just bringing out a bit more of the ethics to morals debate. Morals get in the way because of how folks are 'brought up'. Ethics get a huge 'bad rap' because they tend to look radical in their solutions. Most solutions tend to be 'after the fact' and not proactive, thus the 'radical' appearance.
No harm meant in any of the comments, just food for thought from an old man.
|
|
brockie
Member
|
30. April 2011 @ 22:28 |
Link to this message
|
|
@senator29 not even bothered about your post I'm on about the story.
|
|
Tastylord
Newbie
|
1. May 2011 @ 12:57 |
Link to this message
|
What Geohot does not seem to understand is that Sony spent a huge amount of money to develop and bring the PS3 to market. They did this hoping to recoup their investment and make a profit.
Clearly the PS3 would not exist without Sony's effort and Geohot, who's mind only works withing the parameters of breaking and exploiting someone else's ideas does not seem to grasp that he really does not have the right to jailbreak anything or even offer alternatives to PSN.
Who the hell is he even? I get that he has a certain gift for finding vulnerabilities in systems. But what does that have to do with taking someone else's creation and attempting to steal their idea/product and make it into his own vision. He simply doesnt want to understand that he doesnt have the right to do what he is doing, and his point of view falls flat in light of this fact.
If you don't like the PS3, don't buy it. Gather investors and design and launch a console of your own. IF YOU CAN.
And, by the way, In my observations of how people use jailbroken systems...it's usually to play stolen software of games like call of duty or any other blockbusters that they don't want to pay for. There really isnt any major community created software that everyone is dying to get. The purpose of Homebrew is to pirate software or to use the PS3 in a manner that deprives Sony ( who created the PS3 so that it may benefit from said creation, they didn't do it as a charitable contribution to the world - much like nobody goes to work without getting a pay check ) of any revenues they have worked hard to create.
So grow up and get off that B.S. guy. Use your talents in a more productive fashion and own up to the fact that you have been behaving like a thief and an intellectual thug. Learn to create, rather than break. Make something so that this world can benefit from you having been here.
|
Senior Member
|
1. May 2011 @ 13:46 |
Link to this message
|
The car analogy is the best one.
If you buy a car you are not allowed to modify it. You own it but you are not allowed to modify it. All of you will agree here...
But that is not true. Because laws of ownership say that it is your car and you can do with it whatever you wish. You can modify the motor in any way you want. You can put racing slick tires on, rip the smog crap off, modify the computer chip for more power, paint naked ladies on the side, whatever you wish.
What you CANNOT do is then drive that vehicle on the network of streets. The streets are a managed network which is in this case, public and the government says that to use that network of streets you must be licensed and if you don't follow their rules then you cannot use those streets.
You can modify your car any way you want, but if you want a license you must follow the rules.
BIG DIFFERENCE HERE.
It's the same with Sony. You SHOULD be able to modify your console in anyway you wish. You bought it, you own it. Do whatever you want. If Sony then says that your modified console is not allowed to use their network then that is their prerogative.
BUT THEY SHOULD HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO SAY IN WHAT YOU CAN OR CANNOT DO TO YOUR CONSOLE. Only the ability to allow or not allow you on their network.
Rules that say you are not allowed to drive a modified vehicle on the streets are only as valid as the governments are able to enforce. If there are no cops to give you a ticket, if there is no DMV to force you to get inspections, then their rules mean nothing. But they can and do inspect you. They enforce their rules.
What Sony wants is to not have to enforce their rules. They are saying that if you modify your console then they are unable to enforce their rules. It gives you the ability to "drive on their network" with modified devices and they don't want that but they don't have a way to ENFORCE that rule so they try to say that you cannot modify YOUR device. That's not right! It's on THEM to enforce those rules, not on the police or on you.
Up till now Sony has felt that their network was in their complete control so they had no need for security between the console and the network. What Geohot (and others) are proving is that the Sony network is not secure and that Sony had better put some security in place or shut the hell up about the whole matter. It is on SONY to secure their network. They've had it far too easy for far too long.
This debate is not just a Sony debate. This issue will set precedence that will have very long and far reaching consequences.
I could care less about Sony and their hackable network, but I care how this pans out because I own many devices which use networks. I'd like to think I'm not going to get tossed into jail because I acquired root access on my Android phone. Do I own my phone? Do I own my TV? Do I own my PC? Or does the manufacturer own it and can they prevent me from doing what I want to it?
It's a very important question, and not just because it's Sony.
|
|
Tastylord
Newbie
|
1. May 2011 @ 15:36 |
Link to this message
|
@The Pastor, That's a really good argument. However, it fails to look squarely at one difference between a car and a computer...
They are not exactly the same thing. While you can use laws and arguments regarding cars to begin to structure a set of rules governing the PS3. Both of these items (a car and a PS3) are not exactly the same. There are fundamental differences in how they can be utilized and what purpose they serve, and in how they are meant to return the investment/value to the producer of said item.
Just because effective policing of the PS3 network doesnt exist, doesnt mean that it's okay to exploit Sony or any other company in this manner. These activities are still not legal.
Period. And the activities/hacks/mods of the hackers arent there for research/informational purposes. They are there for deprivation of revenue, stealing of intellectual properties, etc. In short, they arent trying to prove any point. They are just encouraging piracy.
They are behaving like criminals. Period.
|
|
rosedog
Member
|
1. May 2011 @ 17:21 |
Link to this message
|
Originally posted by Oner:
Just came across this post by someone that makes a lot of reasonable sense ~
Quote:
Geohot is a hacker..he does it to make thing's do what they were not meant to do.
Im a Hacker myself. but here is where me an him differ..I follow Prudence he does not. How do i know Simple really.
He did not follow the Law of prudence:
He may say it's mine I can do anything i want with it, while i agree with that..but as soon as you post what you did online it's no longer about just you it's now about US
ie: everyone else.
Now you can say freedom of Information an all which i think freedom of speech is great you have a a due conviction to follow prudence in what you do.
Linux was allowed on the PS3 with Restrictions, that you as the end user cannot have direct access to the PS3's GPU..the developer's an Publisher's have to pay for that privilage.
Last time i check that is the right of the creator to decide that not the consumer.
Sony had too their part of their income stream is licence development developer's it's the same if people were using Epic's unreal game engine you have to pay for it.
Investors would expect Sony to protect that.
I really find it funny how Sony allowed Homebrew, Emulators and more via OtherOS and because GeoHot wanted MORE (RSX etc) and pushed Sony to take action to protect themselves, people got pissed at Sony when they should be mad at GeoHot. WE ALL HAD THE ABILITY TO USE OTHER OS AND IT'S CAPABILITIES AS IT STOOD BEFORE HE DID WHAT HE DID. Sony had absolutely no problems with ANYONE doing whatever they did with OtherOS. This comes down to PIRACY and that is what certain people don't have the balls to admit in public because they want to hide behind "consumer rights". PERIOD.
Your response is so effing retarded it hurts! So by you little minded thinking...because blu-ray has been cracked and can be copied, burned to disc, redistributed and play in the PS3, Sony should turn off the blu-ray feature of the PS3. After all BR is Sony media eggnest.
Ah Pot, I'd like to introduce you Kettle. He's black.
Sony and their left and right hand shenanigans. Its almost funny really if it didn't produce such dire consequences.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 1. May 2011 @ 17:27
|
Moderator
16 product reviews
|
1. May 2011 @ 18:12 |
Link to this message
|
|
And yet I see no real valid response in discussion to anything about what I actually said ~ just a couple of insults (as usual) and something I never said...
|
|
Black4x4
Newbie
|
1. May 2011 @ 18:15 |
Link to this message
|
Originally posted by Tastylord:
What Geohot does not seem to understand is that Sony spent a huge amount of money to develop and bring the PS3 to market. They did this hoping to recoup their investment and make a profit.
Clearly the PS3 would not exist without Sony's effort and Geohot, who's mind only works withing the parameters of breaking and exploiting someone else's ideas does not seem to grasp that he really does not have the right to jailbreak anything or even offer alternatives to PSN.
Who the hell is he even? I get that he has a certain gift for finding vulnerabilities in systems. But what does that have to do with taking someone else's creation and attempting to steal their idea/product and make it into his own vision. He simply doesnt want to understand that he doesnt have the right to do what he is doing, and his point of view falls flat in light of this fact.
If you don't like the PS3, don't buy it. Gather investors and design and launch a console of your own. IF YOU CAN.
And, by the way, In my observations of how people use jailbroken systems...it's usually to play stolen software of games like call of duty or any other blockbusters that they don't want to pay for. There really isnt any major community created software that everyone is dying to get. The purpose of Homebrew is to pirate software or to use the PS3 in a manner that deprives Sony ( who created the PS3 so that it may benefit from said creation, they didn't do it as a charitable contribution to the world - much like nobody goes to work without getting a pay check ) of any revenues they have worked hard to create.
So grow up and get off that B.S. guy. Use your talents in a more productive fashion and own up to the fact that you have been behaving like a thief and an intellectual thug. Learn to create, rather than break. Make something so that this world can benefit from you having been here.
First of all--$ony charged a large amount of money for the first generations of the PS3. They sold their idea for cash!!!!!!!! NEVER FORGET that the PS3 was only the next incarnation of their best selling system PS2-this was inevitable !! It is just a beefed up version of their last system-it wasn't brain surgery to build their version when most of the machine was already built with the PS2. As far as your observations-1) most people I know (including myself) who own a PS3 don't want homebrew to play stolen or hijacked games like Call Of Duty (??!??). They/I want it to be able to use the machine as AS IT WAS ADVERTISED when they/I paid an exorbitant amount of money for it ($600.00 for the 60 gig version, which I happen to own) when it was sold to them/me. 2)-There isn't any major homebrew software to clamor for because $ony simply won't allow us to use the system AS IT WAS ADVERTISED !! NEVER FORGET-$ONY SOLD THE MACHINE AS A GAME SYSTEM WITH HOME COMPUTER CAPABILITIES. It seems that everyone who has a soft spot for $ony seems to forget this fact !! When I bought my machine(as I'm sure that most if not all other people who bought it) only want what they paid for-no more-no less. No everyone is a thief who want to jailbreak their system to steal games-it is so small minded of $ony to even entertain this thought. Most people are honest hard working people who are willing to pay for something that they feel that they(once purchased) want and can modify just about anyway they want to. And for the people who do play illegally acquired games-they might not be so apt to do this if games (which a good deal of them either suck or are a rip-off time wise) didn't cost so much. Anyone who thinks just for a second or two knows that $ony isn't making a charitable contribution and they deserve payment for services rendered, but don't think that people aren't going to get hot under the collar when they are told one thing about something they bought and then the manufacturer decides that they don't like how the people use it. So instead of pulling the high and mighty routine by telling people to grow up and get off of the B.S., maybe you should take the time to put yourself in someone else's shoes and see how you might feel getting ripped off by a giant conglomerate who thinks that they are above reproach and can do whatever they want,whenever they want ! P.S. As for $ony making a profit or not it's because they pull crap like this and secondly, they suck at marketing their products(look at their Mini-disc systems-but that's a whole other story!!!).
|
|
Advertisement
|
|
|
|
Tastylord
Newbie
|
1. May 2011 @ 18:24 |
Link to this message
|
One more thing I'd like to say is that in all fairness, and I'm pretty sure I speak for 99% of the world, is that when one buys a PS3, we were thinking about the games and multimedia capabilities of the device. We wanted to be able to stream movies and listen to music, and watch blue-ray and MOST OF ALL - PLAY GAMES, in a manner that is easier to do than with a PC, but with the same level of sophistication of a PC game.
The 'OTHER OS' option that some people are making a deal about and trying say justifies abusing the PSN network and the rest of us legitmate users who are unable to enjoy our systems is really a geeky side note that most people cant give two ass-farts about.
Who the heck cares if you can run linux on a PS3? It's cool to know you can, but you can't access your PS3 games or purchased content from within linux. You have to choose one or the other. And we want a PS3, not a linux computer with no accelerated video.
I can put Ubuntu on my PC, or even an old PC, get the full functionality of linux and enjoy my PS3.
So big deal, they took out the 'other os' option. who really gives a dang anyway...
The PS3 and the XBOX deliver huge value to the consumer which previously were only imagined but not reality. I've owned them both since they first came out, and still I can't stop loving those devices. They are one of the reasons I love living in these times, and not in the 1940s, 50s, 60s and so on. I can't wait to see what they come up with next.
Hackers should put their obvious good intellect and talent to more beneficial purposes, rather than acting like dweebs. And the hacker community should start policing itself too.
These people who bring down networks and steal are really the catalysts which make DRM, Encryption, and so on necessary. They are the reason that consumers who are willing to get their things in a legitimate fashion have to deal with all these additional restrictions we otherwise may not have.
|
