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Sony confirms it must delay restoration of PSN
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article published on 7 May, 2011
Sony has said early Saturday that it must delay the restoration of PSN, although last week it promised to have the service up-and-running by Sunday.
A spokesperson simply said restoring PSN this week "would not be possible" and left no set date for its return.
Additionally, Sony said it removed the stolen personal info of 2500 PSN users that had been posted on a website.
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8. May 2011 @ 07:23 |
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Originally posted by SomeBozo:
Originally posted by KillerBug:
It will never be 100% safe...it is Sony. They started with great security; the best of any gaming platform in history...and then they cut corners until it was a joke. Even if sony does the security correctly this time, they will just let it rot away again...Sony NEVER learns lessons.
Sorry i would disagree, some of the reports from forensic security analysis shows Sony had out of date software that was never patched and even worse there were no firewalls in place. You say they started with great security or were you simply trying to joke? That is actually no security, not even poor, how is that they started with great security when none existed?
Their people did install backdoors if you are to believe the image that came with the sony press conference...and it is widely known that they declined updates for their firewalls (what were they doing with those 8-10 hour maintenance periods?). But before the backdoors and before the firewalls were outdated, the DoD was an easier hack than Sony.
Originally posted by borhan9:
Can they just please restore this asap because i wanna sign in and i hope also that they make the security a lot stronger than what it was. Can we please have a date time frame something.
Yes, they promised it will be back online by April 23, the 24th at the latest...one Sony lie is as good as another, so just be happy with that.
Originally posted by Run4two:
I'm having trouble seeing how it wasn't somehow an employee of Sony who either directly or indirectly led to this. It's much more logical than thinking any hacker did this without insider info.
That is a given; they installed backdoors and spent the maintenance periods getting drunk at a karaoke bar rather than doing the updates...I would say that a lot of sony employees are responsible, even if none of them did the attack.
Originally posted by Oner:
Still doesn't make it right. Plus that vulnerability was a recent one, and up until that point it WAS invulnerable. That is the nature of the beast, in this case and many others (banks, government agencies etc). And to say "all the personal info was not at all encrypted" is not exactly the whole correct story/information now is it ~
I never claimed that stealing CC numbers was right...I defended the denial of service attacks because they are essentially digital picket lines. Physical picket lines are a constitutionally guaranteed right in my country, and I fail to see how digital picket lines are any different. There is no doubt that stealing CC & other personal info is a crime, or that it is wrong...but we live in a society where people do wrong (just look at Washington DC).
I know this is about the 50th bank analogy, but I think this one has all the bits...
The First National Bank of Sony was robbed last night. The robbers went in through the back door to the vault; the one that isn't within view of cameras (according to the sony diagram, they went in through unmonitored back doors that had no firewalls or security of any kind). They showed up all ready to crack a lock, and found that the door was just hanging open...so they walked right into the vault. The night security guard had died 10 months before, and the bank manager new this, but not hire a new guard, assuming the smell of the corpse would be enough to keep robbers away. The robbers were prepared for this however, as bank customers were posting online about having to step over the dead security guard in order to get to their security boxes. So, they put on their perfume-sprayed masks and cleaned out the vault. They then went into the bank and found the hardcopy files for every customer who had ever banked there...these records were secured...with a lock that someone got in a box of cracker jacks. Police reported that the thieves chose to pick this lock rather than smashing it...just because it was so easy to do.
Originally posted by brockie:
@KillerBug man that is lost it! Sony make great games that is why I got the console never let me down. your a Sony hater so every comment you make is putting them down because you never got your own way.
I can only think of one game made by Sony that I like...and it isn't much fun without online play...on top of that, it was released 4 years behind schedule.
But you are right; I am a Sony hater...15 months ago I was proud to call myself a Sony fanboy...and their actions since then have made me a Sony hater. It isn't like I am some devoted Xbox fan here to trash Sony because they are on the other team...Microsoft did not make me hate Sony...Sony did.
I have owned 2 PS3s, more than 10 PS2s, and as many PS1s...I never owned a 360, and I owned only one original Xbox, which I used as a media center (I didn't own a single game, and I converted all four controller ports to real USB ports)...after a track record like that, it seems only logical that I would end up buying 1-5 PS4 consoles, but I will not buy any, and if someone gives me one, it is going on ebay (unless I can find a way to use it to f**k sony).
I have said that my next system will either be a Windows PC or the next XboX...and this is not a happy thing for me to say...the PC is expensive; not only to build initially, but to constantly upgrade as new games require new hardware on the PC, yet work fine with old hardware on consoles. The xbox is even less appealing...knowing the build quality standards at microsoft, I would have to add the price of a 3 year extended warranty to the purchase price...and then I would have to pay for online play as well. So, it will probably be the PC, it might be the next xbox, and it certainly WILL NOT be a PS4 (unless I can use it to f**k sony).
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dEwMe
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8. May 2011 @ 12:13 |
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Meh...Yeah you absolutely right...The person(s) that did this are (insert your favorite explitive)s. What my point was is Sony is not blameless in this at all either. Being they are making a point of poking the hornets nest lately to say they begged for it is not a far stretch to me.
Just my $0.02,
dEwMe
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SomeBozo
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8. May 2011 @ 14:27 |
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Originally posted by KillerBug:
I have said that my next system will either be a Windows PC or the next XboX...and this is not a happy thing for me to say...the PC is expensive; not only to build initially, but to constantly upgrade as new games require new hardware on the PC, yet work fine with old hardware on consoles. The xbox is even less appealing...knowing the build quality standards at microsoft, I would have to add the price of a 3 year extended warranty to the purchase price...and then I would have to pay for online play as well. So, it will probably be the PC, it might be the next xbox, and it certainly WILL NOT be a PS4 (unless I can use it to f**k sony).
Cost are not directly money either... I would suspect the people that are going to get exploited by the credit card and cvn number leaks will get hit in 6 month or a year, a lot of the information doesn't change and people will be paying less attentions then. Back to my point, if you get hit by identity theft it will take a lot of your own time, labor and frustration. If you've owned that much Sony hardware, i would guess you have a decent job and pay rate, I would argue that is the cost for each hour you'd need to spend to clear up S*ny's snafu if the worse happend...
I would argue a PC might be a little more expensive at first, you can use them for running any other software as well. I'll say i'm not a big console fan, i could never get use to the annoying controllers. Give me a FPS on the PC and i own, many thanks to my Sidewinder System Commander, I can easily do moves you almost never could do on a console unless you had 2 more hands. Also most games on the console appear to me to be dumbed down, I like RTS games, and seen one on the PC that was ported to consoles, and all my friends that played it on the PC and also bought the console all complained the game was nerfed really bad in many ways.
Upkeep for the latest games is about the same? PC <-> Console games fetch about the same price on both, while i do like the idea of Live on xbox and getting access to free or cheap games, sometimes these seem better then the high priced glossy mega hits :)
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plissken13x
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8. May 2011 @ 20:58 |
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It is funny that they are using the word "rebuild" in every article I see. I among other PS3 owners were shocked to see that they had such a lack of security. They cannot rebuild what they never really had. They have to BUILD a secure from the ground up and that actually takes time and cannot be done in 3 weeks. I do not know why they were blowing smoke in the beginning.
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