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FBI arrests LulzSec and Anonymous members
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article published on 23 September, 2011
The Justice Department has confirmed that the FBI has arrested two alleged members of LulzSec and Anonymous.
A third suspect, has had charges secured and an arrest is forthcoming.
Additionally, search warrants were being executed in more cases.
Cody Kretsinger, 23, Christopher Doyon, 47 and Joshua Covelli, 26 were each indicted. Kretsinger was charged with conspiracy and the unauthorized ... [ read the full article ]
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IguanaC64
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3. October 2011 @ 12:41 |
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@Toadwiz...that's unfortunate that it's so easy to find your info only because you joined the armed forces. That should be separated. I have bought almost every bit of electronics/computer equipment online...as well as a lot of aftermarket car parts and other misc stuff on Ebay. Maybe I've just been lucky. I was curious about your situation to see if there was something more I should be avoiding.
I just recently had my TV stolen from my living room while I was out of town. $900 TV. We told the cops who did it. To this date, those guys have never been questioned. This was two months ago...maybe I'm expecting things to move faster. The feeling we got from the cop was either that it was too much of a bother for a $900 TV. I don't have much faith that the cops (at least in my area) care or will do much beyond file the report.
My comparison was an example of using an extreme punishment for one thing that would be used against someone who committed a much lesser crime. Trespass is an annoyance. Theft is a crime deserving of real punishment. Without hackers we wouldn't have known that Sony was blasting our unencrypted financial data across the Internet to anyone who could get inside Sony's network.
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ToadWiz
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3. October 2011 @ 14:26 |
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Originally posted by LordRuss:
While I can applaud your faith in the legal system, I can not share your sentiments.
Russ, Good thing it was you the douchebag tried to steal from. I don't have any rock salt, but I do have a .45 Combat Commander pitching 265 grain FMJs at 1450 FPS. I don't really want to kill some b@stard for stealing from me, but I'm tired of having to repair my truck for some parasite who is too lazy to get a job.
As for my Signature, I don't have any faith in the legal system. I'm convinced that lawyers are the bane of American existence, responsible for almost everything that is wrong with the country. But what we have, no matter how poorly it works, is still better than vigilianteism.
Likewise thank you for putting it on the line for our country. 1973-2009, 11B, 96B, 37F, 19K, 25B, Jumpmaster, Sergeant Major, 4 combat tours.
There's no justice; there's just us.
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ToadWiz
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3. October 2011 @ 14:48 |
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Originally posted by IguanaC64:
I was curious about your situation to see if there was something more I should be avoiding.
We told the cops who did it. The feeling we got from the cop was either that it was too much of a bother for a $900 TV. I don't have much faith that the cops (at least in my area) care or will do much beyond file the report.
Trespass is an annoyance. Theft is a crime deserving of real punishment. Without hackers we wouldn't have known that Sony was blasting our unencrypted financial data across the Internet to anyone who could get inside Sony's network.
Iggy, does you handle have anything to do with the Commodore 64? I worked for Commodore back in 1983, when the owners were pumping the stock up and down for their benefit and ruining the company.
EBay ... I'd say you have to be careful to examine your statements every month. I have found that there are companies which sell overpriced goods that (for obvious reasons) don't check card ownership very carefully. Likewise credit card transactions in Reno and Atlantic City do not require the purchaser to know the 3 digit code on the back of the card. A suspicious person (like me) might assume they don't really care if the card is stolen or not, as long as they get money. Stolen data is becoming a high-value item on certain chat rooms, worth up for $4 per account.
So, if some vigilante hacks into Amazon, what is he doing other than making it harder for the police to capture criminals who are committing other crimes? In my experience, it isn't that the cops don't care. It's the number of cases they have to deal with and the need to pursue those which offer the highest reurn for the time they have to spend on it.
Sony's use of DRM to infect people's computers who bought Sony CDs is a fine example of something that Sony should be punished for. And if hackers were involved, I applaud the results. But I cannot applaud wikileaks, when some poor Afghani loses his life for giving us information, and we didn't manage to protect his identity. But Lawyers don't take on cases based on what is right and wrong. They take on cases where they have a chance to win the Golden Lawsuit that enables them to buy a private island in the South Pacific. That's why I hate lawyers.
There's no justice; there's just us.
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3. October 2011 @ 22:48 |
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Originally posted by ToadWiz:
Originally posted by xboxdvl2:
im not saying reward extortion im saying work with them instead of being the victim of them.You wanna test a lock you dont say to the police can you pick my lock i wanna make sure its safe.you ask a theif or someone who use to be a theif to test the lock them ask them how do i change it so it doesnt get picked.you want a website that doesnt get hacked you ask someone that hacks websites to hack your website then ask them how can i change my website so it doesnt get hacked.
Just a week ago, my truck was broken into. The low-life scumbag didn't get anything useful. He took a "Redneck Horn" with a burned out battery and a zippered folder with my truck's maintenance manual, license tag receipts, and proof of insurance. (i.e. he didn't get enough to buy a drag from a roach.) Meanwhile he did $250 damage to my truck.
By your standards, I should go find the douche-bag and ask him how to keep him out next time. Instead I went to Car Toys and asked their opinion. I now have a dual zone alarm and proximity detector. YMMV
my car got broken into lastyear and the street directory stolen didnt care as i had 3 street directories but pissed me off the lock and door handle was broken.when my brothers car got broken into he got custom locks fitted.No one likes being stolen from.I'm not a big fan of car alarms as in my teenage years some of the other teenagers i knew would be in and out of a car with the sterio in about 30seconds at the local shopping centre most the time the car alarms would go off and no one would care or even notice.immobilizers seem ok (apart from the crook turned mechanic that removed them in about 30seconds on a current affair) but its not hard to pop the bonnet and remove the rotar arm(old fashion way of stopping a car getting stolen).by my standards you should have better locks (ones that cant be picked in 30seconds with a screwdriver) on the car.having a muscular greyhound chained to the wheel of your truck would ensure no one goes anywhere near it.
as for the comparison to the sikh running the convenience store.im surprised the americans havnt rounded up all the muslims and locked them up.heard stories about 1942 saying they rounded up all the japanese living in america and imprisoned them
custom built gaming pc from early 2010,ps2 with 15 games all original,ps3 500gbs with 5 games all original,yamaha amp and 5.1channel surround sound speakers,46inch sony lcd smart tv.
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ToadWiz
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3. October 2011 @ 23:09 |
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Originally posted by xboxdvl2:
im surprised the americans havnt rounded up all the muslims and locked them up.heard stories about 1942 saying they rounded up all the japanese living in america and imprisoned them
There are better alarms now and I got a good one. Proximity sensor, dual shock detector, battery backup, rotating alarm code, and a truly functional engine disable. What I really want is to keep someone from smashing my window. I don;t leave anything valuable in my truck, but $250 to replace the window is too much.
I don't have anything against Moslems or their religion. Islam is no more responsible for terrorism than Christianity is for abortion clinic bombers. It is possible that we learned from the 1942 experience.
On the other hand, about 20,000 Russian-made SA-7 Grail SAMs (shoulder fired antiaircraft missile) are missing from the Libyan arsenal. (Isn't the Arab Spring a wonderful thing?) All things considered, it will be easier to get them into Europe than the US. I'm surprised GB hasn't followed the 1942 example.
I do expect that a civilian airliner will be shot down within the next year or two. It will be interesting to see how attitudes change after that.
There's no justice; there's just us.
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5. October 2011 @ 12:18 |
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Originally posted by ToadWiz:
Likewise thank you for putting it on the line for our country. 1973-2009, 11B, 96B, 37F, 19K, 25B, Jumpmaster, Sergeant Major, 4 combat tours.
You're a better man then I... I didn't do any tours, I just got dropped in several 'hot' spots. I was a Combat Documentation & Production Specialist, it was you guys that made the history, I got the honor of recording it. That's not to say when the shit hits we're all 11B. Catch me in another 5-6 years (when the FIA has kicked in) & we'll share a couple of stories.
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