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Study: Piracy is accepted practice in U.S., but casually
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The following comments relate to this news article:
article published on 17 November, 2011
According to a new survey, Americans seem to have made piracy an acceptable practice, although a very small amount can be considered "hardcore" pirates.
70 percent of 18-29-year-olds surveyed admitted to pirating music, TV or movies, but only 2 percent said they had pirated over 1000 music tracks and only 1 percent said they had downloaded over 100 episodes or movies.
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CaptHook
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18. November 2011 @ 13:40 |
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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
But as to most people would still pirate if pricing was proper, then I would say you are wrong as most would not pirate but definitely some would and would do it big time.
+1 Bigtime!!
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CaptHook
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18. November 2011 @ 13:50 |
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Mr. Movies...
I totally agree with your comment as well regarding "Piracy" which is a term used to bastardize the file sharing process. In addition, I'll be damned if ill let someone dictate to me what I can do with media that I have purchased. I know that some will respectfully disagree with me but that's okay as long as my opinion is respected as well
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18. November 2011 @ 13:52 |
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(.............bearing in mind what I said before about buying quite a lot of music & video, including HD etc)
The lovely thing about it all is that in more than a few territories they are having to attempt to redefine breach of copyright because sharing & personal using without any form of sale or profit is not illegal.
This is called 'a bunch of snide greedy s**ts moving the goalposts' & shows what this is really all about, the corporations hated VHS video & feel entitled to monetize everything to do with watching their crap (and let's be honest, so much of it is crap that the idea that people unable to see it through sharing will rush out & buy it is laughable).
I could go back to hooking up the old VHS and suffer poorer quality but why should I?
In any event my PVR has a digital copy out function which is legal to use in the UK.
If I can be bothered my Panny plasma has both freesat & freeview (there's a free satellite broadcasting network here - including HD - as well as a free to air terrestrial network, also including HD) the facility to record to a hard drive & I can record & keep TV series & films just like I used to with the VHS, all perfectly legally.
The net gives flexibility & convenience.
It isn't offering many of us something we can't already have perfectly legally.
So what's with the legal actions & ruinous fines?
Talk about way to alienate your customer base.
Idiots.
.....and the most amusing thing of all
(besides their periodic wheeling out of various film stars and music stars to whine about their imminent impoverishment.......lol, they can't get past the truth that 99.9999999999% of everything downloaded is from the already successful, well known & well off)
is that no matter how much they try to redefine & reframe this debate everyone knows sharing is not theft, it never was, it never is and never will be.
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Mez
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18. November 2011 @ 14:53 |
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Originally posted by ThePastor:
Just based on the large numbers of torrent users, (the absolutely worst way to download)
That is a interesting remark. I guess you must figure the world is made up of idiots. I guess that might be true.
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18. November 2011 @ 15:05 |
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Wow, my apologies to all the torrenters out there.
Let me restate, In my experience, there are much better, faster, easier ways that have very little legal exposure, to get what you want. IMO
Oh, Im sorry... Did the middle of my sentence interrupt the beginning of yours?
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CaptHook
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18. November 2011 @ 15:30 |
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Originally posted by ThePastor:
Wow, my apologies to all the torrenters out there.
Let me restate, In my experience, there are much better, faster, easier ways that have very little legal exposure, to get what you want. IMO
I agree... A friend of mine has been telling me for years to ditch the torrent community for fear of punitive actions by ISP, even while I was using a third party VPN. I'm just now coming along into the USENET community in which the content and availability of the content is the same using NZB sites to snatch files as supposed to P2P and it is supposedly more secure.
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18. November 2011 @ 15:43 |
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Originally posted by ThePastor:
Wow, my apologies to all the torrenters out there.
Let me restate, In my experience, there are much better, faster, easier ways that have very little legal exposure, to get what you want. IMO
Be more clear, do you mean private or public?
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Mez
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18. November 2011 @ 16:01 |
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There is no such thing as a truly private torrent. You can have a private membership but the lines are public. Even if you use a VPN your usage is tracked. It is only harder to discover your identity.
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18. November 2011 @ 16:04 |
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Originally posted by DVDBack23:
Originally posted by ThePastor:
Wow, my apologies to all the torrenters out there.
Let me restate, In my experience, there are much better, faster, easier ways that have very little legal exposure, to get what you want. IMO
Be more clear, do you mean private or public?
Aye, please. I'd certainly enjoy knowing what it is, I'm always up for safer and faster. Suppose I'll look into USENET now, but is that what you're referring to?
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18. November 2011 @ 16:53 |
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I don't think I've grabbed more than a 1000 tracks but if I had, it's been since the Napster days. Probably more than a 100 movies BUT, I continue to buy blu-rays like crazy too. I don't leech. I give back. As for music.....again......don't believe in buying them. Money for musicians is in touring and concerts.....not album sales. F those record labels whom comprise the RIAA institution.
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18. November 2011 @ 19:48 |
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Oh, Im sorry... Did the middle of my sentence interrupt the beginning of yours?
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18. November 2011 @ 23:46 |
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Torrents suck because you open up multiple threads to all sorts of people which could be friend or foe. Also, you may not get all of your pieces if seeds go away midstream in your downloading. And there are more reasons beyond that like seed go away after a few days of post normally and if you are lucky one seed may have the full file(set).
Torrents are dangerous! I can use a VPN tunnel and download most of the time much faster and definitely safer than a torrent were I'm wide open to the net.
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bratcher
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19. November 2011 @ 00:01 |
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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
Torrents suck because you open up multiple threads to all sorts of people which could be friend or foe. Also, you may not get all of your pieces if seeds go away midstream in your downloading. And there are more reasons beyond that like seed go away after a few days of post normally and if you are lucky one seed may have the full file(set).
Torrents are dangerous! I can use a VPN tunnel and download most of the time much faster and definitely safer than a torrent were I'm wide open to the net.
Seeds dying out is exactly why I quit using torrents....
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POEE
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19. November 2011 @ 00:58 |
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Originally posted by ThePastor:
Yes, usenet, but ... the first rule of Usenet is "Don't tell anyone". :D
Try this search: http://www.nzbclub.com/
Torrent is free to use, this appears to cost a monthly fee to use. What is the advantage over Torrent? Or, more to the point, if you are actually going to pay to download pirated stuff, why not pay for the genuine article instead?
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dEwMe
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19. November 2011 @ 10:17 |
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Originally posted by ThePastor:
Yes, usenet, but ... the first rule of Usenet is "Don't tell anyone". :D
DOH! Seriously guys...Yeah Torrents are the bomb! As long as they can go after easy picking like torrent users they can leave us "stupid" usenet users alone. Especialy those of us paranoid enough to be "reading" all those articles via a SSL connection. As far as the premium I pay for a good news server in another country goes...let's just rest assured I am very far ahead of the game and without the worry some lawyer is going to send me a letter threatening me into settling for thousands of $ I fully expect to stay that way...WOOT TORRENTS!!!
Just my $0.02,
dEwMe
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20. November 2011 @ 00:14 |
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Originally posted by patrick_:
How can a $10 fine for a song be acceptable? If you steal a $100,000 car, you don't get fined $1,000,000.
Jailtime? I can steal hundreds of wallets without going to jail as long as I don't use violence (welcome to Spain), but I would go to jail for copying a song? That's just plain stupid.
imo if you stole a $100,000 car and damaged it i think you should have to return the car and pay for the repairs.
punishments dont fit the crime.
as for the rest of you complaining about torrents.i use torrents they work fine.never tryed usenet.use what works best to you and dont criticizing the rest.
custom built gaming pc from early 2010,ps2 with 15 games all original,ps3 500gbs with 5 games all original,yamaha amp and 5.1channel surround sound speakers,46inch sony lcd smart tv.
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21. November 2011 @ 15:03 |
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agreed.
I never said torrents suck. I said that it was the worst way IMO.
I've tried both and I'll never go back to torrents.
Torrents require you to upload much more than you download.
That's never, ever been an issue with Usenet.
There's another popular download method. DDL's. This one is pretty good as well, but go figure, it's not free either.
Whatever works for you is great.
Oh, Im sorry... Did the middle of my sentence interrupt the beginning of yours?
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21. November 2011 @ 15:46 |
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Originally posted by ThePastor:
agreed.
Torrents require you to upload much more than you download.
Not true. You can throttle your upload/download ratio without taking a speed hit on the downloads.
"Is that 3 thousand dollar bounty on the shark in cash or check?"
"We can do it the easy way...Or we can do it the REAL easy way."
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21. November 2011 @ 21:49 |
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Originally posted by ChiefBrdy:
Originally posted by ThePastor:
agreed.
Torrents require you to upload much more than you download.
Not true. You can throttle your upload/download ratio without taking a speed hit on the downloads.
my upload speed is up to 56k.my download speed is up to 800kbps.
custom built gaming pc from early 2010,ps2 with 15 games all original,ps3 500gbs with 5 games all original,yamaha amp and 5.1channel surround sound speakers,46inch sony lcd smart tv.
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22. November 2011 @ 16:53 |
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My download speed is about 1.5mb/s and upload speed is irrelevant.
Oh, Im sorry... Did the middle of my sentence interrupt the beginning of yours?
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