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AdBlock Plus to stop, um, blocking all ads
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The following comments relate to this news article:
article published on 12 December, 2011
The popular browser extension AdBlock Plus is likely to lose a large number of its fans soon.
Instead of blocking all ads like intended, the app will now allow "acceptable ads" to load.
The qualifications have not been finalized, but here is what we know so far for "acceptable ads," via digitizor:
Static advertisements only (no animations, sounds or similar)
Preferably text ... [ read the full article ]
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13. December 2011 @ 23:32 |
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Originally posted by dRD:
Originally posted by KillerBug:
AD has paid news writers? Really? Then why does the news take 2-3 days to make it from other sites to here, and then look copy-n-pasted half the time?
That's entirely your opinion, sure. Of course, unique news are hard to come by -- I'd say on any tech news site, about 98% of the news are sourced from somewhere else. Considering however the amount of references other sites make to our content (about 100'000 domains linking to us), I could argue that our 12yrs+ of news output has some merits, even though the majority of news (just like with everybody, whether its HuffPo, NYT or Engadget) are build on news reporting, press releases, etc of/from other companies.
I'm not even asking for unique news...but when a news story is all over the web and affecting tens of millions of people all around the world, and it is posted by users on your own forum, why does it take days before it hits the front page???
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13. December 2011 @ 23:38 |
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Originally posted by KillerBug:
Originally posted by dRD:
Originally posted by KillerBug:
AD has paid news writers? Really? Then why does the news take 2-3 days to make it from other sites to here, and then look copy-n-pasted half the time?
That's entirely your opinion, sure. Of course, unique news are hard to come by -- I'd say on any tech news site, about 98% of the news are sourced from somewhere else. Considering however the amount of references other sites make to our content (about 100'000 domains linking to us), I could argue that our 12yrs+ of news output has some merits, even though the majority of news (just like with everybody, whether its HuffPo, NYT or Engadget) are build on news reporting, press releases, etc of/from other companies.
I'm not even asking for unique news...but when a news story is all over the web and affecting tens of millions of people all around the world, and it is posted by users on your own forum, why does it take days before it hits the front page???
I'd argue against the assertion that most, or even a very large part of the news is "days" late. This is often true at the weekend when there's not much "new" news so we take a look back over anything interesting from the week.
But the main reason we don't go cut throat on news is we are not primarily a news outlet. News writing is only part of the of the job for staff of the English site, while it is given a much bigger priority in Finland, Norway, Sweden, Denmark etc. where the news is written in the local language.
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Jeffrey_P
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14. December 2011 @ 05:32 |
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Originally posted by Prim0:
Originally posted by ROMaster2:
Thanks for the notice, disabling updates.
How do you disable updates? I looked all over the app and could not find...
Firefox:
Tools> Add-ons> more> Automatic updates> Off
Jeff
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14. December 2011 @ 15:26 |
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Originally posted by Jeffrey_P:
Originally posted by Prim0:
Originally posted by ROMaster2:
Thanks for the notice, disabling updates.
How do you disable updates? I looked all over the app and could not find...
Firefox:
Tools> Add-ons> more> Automatic updates> Off
Jeff
That will not prevent AdBlock Plus from updating to new versions of blacklists that you subscribe to; it will prevent Firefox from updating AdBlock Plus.
Seriously guys, what's the big deal? If you have some weird inhibition against allowing the sites you visit to receive any ad revenue (which, if shared by everyone, would completely destroy just about every non-commercial website), just subscribe to a different blacklist that blocks all ads. On the other hand, if you want to support the sites that you visit by allowing them to display well-behaved ads, you needn't do anything.
In either case, switching off add-on updates is completely ineffective and potentially going to cause you problems. ABP updates your subscribed lists independently of Firefox's add-on update mechanism.
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Jeffrey_P
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14. December 2011 @ 16:23 |
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Originally posted by nonoitall:
Originally posted by Jeffrey_P:
Originally posted by Prim0:
Originally posted by ROMaster2:
Thanks for the notice, disabling updates.
How do you disable updates? I looked all over the app and could not find...
Firefox:
Tools> Add-ons> more> Automatic updates> Off
Jeff
That will not prevent AdBlock Plus from updating to new versions of blacklists that you subscribe to; it will prevent Firefox from updating AdBlock Plus.
Seriously guys, what's the big deal? If you have some weird inhibition against allowing the sites you visit to receive any ad revenue (which, if shared by everyone, would completely destroy just about every non-commercial website), just subscribe to a different blacklist that blocks all ads. On the other hand, if you want to support the sites that you visit by allowing them to display well-behaved ads, you needn't do anything.
In either case, switching off add-on updates is completely ineffective and potentially going to cause you problems. ABP updates your subscribed lists independently of Firefox's add-on update mechanism.
That's right.. I do not what to upgrade to a newer version of Ad-block. I'm going to lose the add-on completely. Having donated money to the developer it should do what it was advertized to do.
Your assumption that blocking adds would kill off websites must be a little off. Not everybody uses an ad blocker. ABP has been around for a while. So by your account websites we share and enjoy would no longer be on line today which we all know is simply not true.
Like I said, if websites want a form of income, post it on the homepage.
I don't like idea of the Internet being used as a billboard.
My option...
Jeff
Cars, Guitars & Radiation.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 14. December 2011 @ 16:44
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pierrrre
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14. December 2011 @ 17:06 |
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I seem to detect a bit of paranoia.
My Firefox just updated Adblock plus automatically. It gave me a message that adblock plus has been updated and that it had been configured to let non intrusive ad pass through. It also informed me that if I don't want this, just to go in its setting and re-enable full block. I went and unchecked "allow non-intrusive advertising" (bottom left corner). That is it. It took me longer to write this post than unchecked the check mark.
Breath-in, Breath-out.....
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 14. December 2011 @ 17:07
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Jeffrey_P
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14. December 2011 @ 17:19 |
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"My Firefox just updated Adblock plus automatically. It gave me a message that adblock plus has been updated and that it had been configured to let non intrusive ad pass through. It also informed me that if I don't want this, just to go in its setting and re-enable full block. I went and unchecked "allow non-intrusive advertising" (bottom left corner). That is it. It took me longer to write this post than unchecked the check mark."
That hasn't been mentioned anywhere before you became the Guinea pig. :)
Thanks
Jeff
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14. December 2011 @ 19:34 |
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Originally posted by Jeffrey_P:
Having donated money to the developer it should do what it was advertized to do.
It still will. Read here. In addition, you're completely free to use another blacklist if ABP's own list doesn't meet your needs. The add-on is not limited to using only ABP's blacklists.
Originally posted by Jeffrey_P:
Your assumption that blocking adds would kill off websites must be a little off. Not everybody uses an ad blocker. ABP has been around for a while. So by your account websites we share and enjoy would no longer be on line today which we all know is simply not true.
Let's re-read what I said...
Originally posted by nonoitall:
If you have some weird inhibition against allowing the sites you visit to receive any ad revenue (which, if shared by everyone, would completely destroy just about every non-commercial website), just subscribe to a different blacklist that blocks all ads. On the other hand, if you want to support the sites that you visit by allowing them to display well-behaved ads, you needn't do anything.
As you said, not everyone blocks ads.
Originally posted by Jeffrey_P:
Like I said, if websites want a form of income, post it on the homepage.
It's not always about "wanting income". It costs money to run a website. Unless the site is very low traffic or has an alternate revenue stream (donations, commercial sales, wealthy benefactor) it is very likely to be sustained by advertisements. This is pretty basic web knowledge so I guess I don't see a need for web sites to explicitly notify users that the site is kept alive by ads.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 14. December 2011 @ 19:35
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Jeffrey_P
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14. December 2011 @ 19:45 |
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Originally posted by nonoitall:
Originally posted by Jeffrey_P:
Having donated money to the developer it should do what it was advertized to do.
It still will. Read here. In addition, you're completely free to use another blacklist if ABP's own list doesn't meet your needs. The add-on is not limited to using only ABP's blacklists.
Originally posted by Jeffrey_P:
Your assumption that blocking adds would kill off websites must be a little off. Not everybody uses an ad blocker. ABP has been around for a while. So by your account websites we share and enjoy would no longer be on line today which we all know is simply not true.
Let's re-read what I said...
Originally posted by nonoitall:
If you have some weird inhibition against allowing the sites you visit to receive any ad revenue (which, if shared by everyone, would completely destroy just about every non-commercial website), just subscribe to a different blacklist that blocks all ads. On the other hand, if you want to support the sites that you visit by allowing them to display well-behaved ads, you needn't do anything.
As you said, not everyone blocks ads.
Originally posted by Jeffrey_P:
Like I said, if websites want a form of income, post it on the homepage.
It's not always about "wanting income". It costs money to run a website. Unless the site is very low traffic or has an alternate revenue stream (donations, commercial sales, wealthy benefactor) it is very likely to be sustained by advertisements. This is pretty basic web knowledge so I guess I don't see a need for web sites to explicitly notify users that the site is kept alive by ads.
No reason to nitpick. The issues has been resolved.
Yes, I know it takes a small fortune to run a decent website.
I know a little about the net since I was one of 200 who established the first website in the USA @ Stanford university.
I'm old school when it comes to the Internet. Billboard advertising makes me cringe.
That's not the way the Internet was supposed to evolve to.
We used ARPANET over slow dial-up slow modem phone lines before this great net innovation.
I worked for Stanford for almost 20 years. I volunteered to help do installations and testing for the website. My real job there was a radiological detection design engineer.
Jeff
Cars, Guitars & Radiation.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 14. December 2011 @ 20:07
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15. December 2011 @ 00:59 |
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Didn't realize I was nitpicking. It sounds like we're both satisfied with our understanding of the situation. ;-)
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15. December 2011 @ 05:48 |
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Strange...I turned off auto-updates days ago, then my power went out while FireFox was running. When it came back up, I was informed that it had updated. I disabled the "non-intrusive advertising".
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flyingpen
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15. December 2011 @ 12:22 |
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yep, this wasnt a big deal at all, all you have to do is uncheck a box.. >.>
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wildsalmon
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20. December 2011 @ 02:22 |
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Other options include NoScript and AdFender
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Jeffrey_P
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2. January 2013 @ 21:52 |
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.....And..... Analytic s, Trackers and widgets.
Jeff
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3. January 2013 @ 04:52 |
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1 thing that annoys me a lot on the net is heavily moderated sites where swearing in a banned and they all say its a family site but every now and then an ad for russian porn comes up.
ads drive me nuts on the web.they should banned them all and find other ways to make money.
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