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Crytek: Used games should be blocked on upcoming consoles
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article published on 28 April, 2012
Over the past few months, it has been rumored that the upcoming generation of consoles from Sony and Microsoft will block used games from playing, a move that would kill the entire second market and likely bankrupt retail companies like GameStop.
Rasmus Hojengaard, the director of creative development at Crytek, seems to feel that rumor should become fact: "From a business perspective ... [ read the full article ]
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Mysttic
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29. April 2012 @ 14:38 |
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Huh? I bought Killzone 2 for like $11.99 and WWE Wrestling 2010 for around $20. Hardly outrageous. I have no plans to purchase the latest "next-gen'" console if content goes 100% digital download.
*Bought for PS3
Two games is hardly indicative of non exorbitant prices of thousands of second hand games that joe blogs or some 2nd hand retailer is attempting to get a ridiculous price for on outdated or older games or even fairly recent,when some of those games can be bought new for less.it's not like member was generalizing tho it may have seemed like it & lets not forget condition & popularity play a part
Agreed here; first off Killzone 2 had so many copies distributed and unsold, that I found that game in the bargain bin at Walmart for $5 new. So you still got ripped off. And what year are we in, you bought WWE 2010, like wow. Sports game don't even have collection value, there may be a handful worth anything at all. Most of them 3+ years go for $1. You didn't get a good deal paying $20 for that game that's for sure; but hey, if you feel satisfied with that price, good for you to see value in what you paid.
Now moving from old PS3 games into this year, any new release that gets brought back into gamestop (cough: Skyrim); they'll offer you $20 in store game credit at best, then sell it for $5 under the value of their new price which is anywhere from $5-10 more than departments stars such as Wal-Mart, Target, etc.
Any game that was released in 2011-now, if the game didn't release as a complete flop or is an old sports game, you are not getting a good deal. As one guy said it, you compared a (good deal, which I know is not) as 2 examples out of thousands of examples. Gamestop deserves to go under, make no mistake.
However, I do not believe they need to go under in this manner. Used game market should not be cancelled as it will make all games, collectable or not, = to that of a paperweight. What should be done, is forcing secondhand stores and game retailers to pay a re-sale fee to developers. That would solve the issue and people would still be able to buy used games. Why nobody listens to that sound reasoning is beyond me.
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29. April 2012 @ 14:48 |
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if this is the road they are going down will they lower the price of the games for example the price of the platinum games or just try to screw the public over for new tech new games at 50 plus euro per pop. it would be a reason to just jailbreak the unit and not go online. if going online will penalise you like this then personally i wouldnt do it.
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dodger5
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29. April 2012 @ 17:35 |
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It may open the market to new ideas, a new system perhaps? just over a year ago I cut the cable, scary at first but it wasn't long before my family and I got used to it. I consider myself a pretty avid gamer (PC, 360, PS3), but if the cost becomes to much I will just have to cut the cable on them as well, sure it will sting at first but I'll get over it. People will change how they budget entertainment and how they spend their time, and smart, capable people will take advantage of that and come up with something different and affordable, and those people will prosper. Angry birds was just a couple bucks and those guys made a freaking fortune.
Keep your head up, keep alert, and don't let them take you by suprise.
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29. April 2012 @ 18:28 |
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Originally posted by dodger5:
It may open the market to new ideas, a new system perhaps? just over a year ago I cut the cable, scary at first but it wasn't long before my family and I got used to it. I consider myself a pretty avid gamer (PC, 360, PS3), but if the cost becomes to much I will just have to cut the cable on them as well, sure it will sting at first but I'll get over it. People will change how they budget entertainment and how they spend their time, and smart, capable people will take advantage of that and come up with something different and affordable, and those people will prosper. Angry birds was just a couple bucks and those guys made a freaking fortune.
The idea isn't that everyone stops buying games. That would kill them outright. The idea is that they make a move that maximizes the profit for all parties. The consumers need decent prices vs. Game play experience in order purchase a game. The developers want to make as much as possible so they can invest in new games and pay their costs. The publishers want to make back what they invested in the development and marketing of the games. It is a delicate balance.
This move will unbalance the system and potentially hurt the industry more then what they think will happen. They need to address everyone's issues and create a balanced ecosystem.
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29. April 2012 @ 19:28 |
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Originally posted by imnomyth:
I RARELY buy games anymore. My PS3 is used as a blu-ray player/media player, and I've sold the 360. However, several friends are still avid gamers, typicall buying 2-3 games per month. As you would expect, they typically sell them once they become bored with them. Myself, or other friends buy them at a very discounted price. Here's the shocker; they use the money they get from selling the old games to...BUY NEW GAMES!!! People like myself only buy 1 or 2 new games a year, but may buy 8-10 used games. SONY and Microsoft will only be hurting themselves, because I still won't pay full price unless it's GOW, Zelda, Uncharted, etc. and even then I may just stop playing all together if I have shell out $400 for a system, then $60 for the one great game that I want per year.
That's the way I am. The only games I'll buy brand new are Modern Warfare and GO@. I get madden as a gift, but other than that, screw it. The prices are insane.
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hearme0
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29. April 2012 @ 20:48 |
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Can anyone tell me HOW they can/will be able to effectively "ban or prohibit" the use of "used" games????? That would mean not taking your game to a friend's house to play. F THAT! Glad I'm an avid computer gamer.
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kmass
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30. April 2012 @ 03:50 |
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Originally posted by imnomyth:
I RARELY buy games anymore. My PS3 is used as a blu-ray player/media player, and I've sold the 360. However, several friends are still avid gamers, typicall buying 2-3 games per month. As you would expect, they typically sell them once they become bored with them. Myself, or other friends buy them at a very discounted price. Here's the shocker; they use the money they get from selling the old games to...BUY NEW GAMES!!! People like myself only buy 1 or 2 new games a year, but may buy 8-10 used games. SONY and Microsoft will only be hurting themselves, because I still won't pay full price unless it's GOW, Zelda, Uncharted, etc. and even then I may just stop playing all together if I have shell out $400 for a system, then $60 for the one great game that I want per year.
I agree I dont wanna buy a game beat it and then just have it sittin I will sell it take that money and buy a new one ... BIG mistake on the company if they do this ... I can see if this happens it will make the piracy go back up people will go back to PC and drop consoles cause it will be cheaper to download games on net and play them
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grathan
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30. April 2012 @ 09:12 |
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-Who is gonna take a chance buying a game with no resale value? Sure if it is a 5 star game, but there hasn't been a 5 star game in at least 10 years. Even if the new hardware makes up for sloppy code and there is new textures, people are gonna get bored with the same old gameplay.
-There is still gonna be a console that will support used games and that is the one consumers will flock to. Either that or the first one hacked to play pirated games. Did the psp outsell the Vita this week? Have been loyal Sony, but the last console was just a string of disapointments.
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30. April 2012 @ 20:23 |
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I haven't had a game system since my original NES.
Honestly? I do not understand how this industry has survived this far. Outrageous prices. Crippling DRM. Antagonistic business practices. Crappy coding.
Just add this to the other crap that this industry has piled on you, the customer.
Oh, Im sorry... Did the middle of my sentence interrupt the beginning of yours?
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4. May 2012 @ 12:57 |
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Maybe console gamers will start realizing that it's cheaper to go pc.
Sony talking pricing PS+.
MS raising LIVE cost AND still increasing ads.
Devs/Pubs requiring codes for online multiplayer.
Devs/Pubs/Mfgs all wanting used games blocked.
... and on and on. For the price that people are buying these consoles for at launch, they could be building/buying a gaming pc.
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4. May 2012 @ 13:28 |
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Originally posted by bhetrick:
Maybe console gamers will start realizing that it's cheaper to go pc.
Sony talking pricing PS+.
MS raising LIVE cost AND still increasing ads.
Devs/Pubs requiring codes for online multiplayer.
Devs/Pubs/Mfgs all wanting used games blocked.
... and on and on. For the price that people are buying these consoles for at launch, they could be building/buying a gaming pc.
PC Gaming has a different feel to it. It also generally has better graphics but that is all dependent on your hardware. Games that are written for the console are designed to just work. You pick up a PS3, you play PS3 games. Pretty simple. The PC world has had Serial Numbers for ages now, which means that if you buy a game it has no resale value. Mind you, they never used to track the serial numbers.
THe Console world evolved along a different path. Back in the days of cartridge games, like the NES, SNES, N64, etc. you could just more your game from one console to another and your saves and everything came along with it. But it meant you could go to your friend's place and play, or if your console died you just picked up a new one and kept going.
These companies are undermining the very fabric that made them a success. It is unfortunate that they have become greedy, that seems to be the popular thing to do in today's world. But there is a cost. If it means jumping ship then so be it.
Easy Solution: Lower the cost of new games, keep the current game model. This way they get more primary market sales and the secondary market will still exist.
Scott
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ajennice
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4. May 2012 @ 18:46 |
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I wouldn't fret a bit over this. First the DL game disk.. HACKED... next the ap2.5- HACKED, many different "waves" - a;; hacked, and now the XGD3- again.. HACKED.
I do not have a hacked console but it seems like every move the industry makes there are a handful well in front of them maiking moves around certain blocks.
If it weren't for the outrageous prices they ask for a $0.28 disk with a gamne on it, there wouldn't be much of this. As for the eb/gamestop used prices, they are outrageous as well. you buy a 60.00 game play it a week and get what you want out of it, they rebuy it for 29.00 and then resale it for 5.00 less than a new copy. I can see where some comapnies want in on that or are just pissed they can't get that kind of action, but it's not the store's fault the games do not stay interesting fgorever!!!
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