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elainc33
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10. July 2004 @ 09:30 |
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Hello, sorry I am back again. I have more or less given up on the mkv but I am a little worried because I noticed that FFDShow is on the start menu but it has Registry Files, audio filter config, config, raw only filter config, vfw config. Am I supposed to do anything with these options - I thought fddshow just got installed in computer and sat there without me having to do anything with it. I dont want to upset my pc, as it is now Divx Player is not recognising some of the avi's that it did before, unless I browse to all files.
Another thing, if you dont mind being patient, now I have VirtualDub, can I use this for cd images. A while ago I had a large file in two cd they were rar, so opened them and converted to bin and cue and burned in Nero as cd image. They will only play in pc or my KISS DVD/DIVX standalone player, which is not much use as my friends dont have this player. Today, I find I have yet another 1500 MB of rar files (the person who put the movie on didnt mention rar files otherwise I would not have bothered to download) So can I use VirtualDub to convert to something playable on a dvd player? I did quickly open one of the old cd images, in virtdub, and had two screens come up, havent a clue what to do or how to use. Would appreciate your help on that as you seem to know about converting and virtdub actually recognised the thing after parsing!!! unlike that miserable Matrovska thing.
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shiroh
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10. July 2004 @ 19:34 |
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i wish i had a divx/xvid player :|
i use ffdshow and don't have divx installed, only xvid for encoding. but its what you prefer. you can uninstall ffdshow if you want to.
about the pictures and virtaldub, you can make those pictures into avi type of videos like you can do it with vcd. virtual dub can only encode mpeg4 or any other codec except install, mpeg2 is licensed, so you need to buy, mpeg 1 and 2 i use tmpgenc.
but i think if the player reads image cd. burn it as images.
did you get virtualdubmod to work ?
you opened the image files that meansits not virtualdub thats b0rk. it must be your codec. try with other videos.
i see why you want avi now.
maybe the mtroska thing didn't work cause it wants you to buy the dvd :P
makeavis is not for you unless you want to use avisynth. i'm sure you don't want any new things right now :P
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elainc33
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10. July 2004 @ 23:29 |
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The KISS dvd/dvix DP1000 is not available in U.S. at the moment but the DP450 (which is supposed to be the same but slightly larger is available from MTS Business Solutions, Wilmington DE - best wait for Amazon,com to get it I reckon).
I had a near disaster last night, as a cd image file opened in VirtualDub (but I dont know how to use it) I decided to try and open it in Video Cleaner - big mistake, computer froze up, lots of other things, had to shut down incorrectly, hence when I re-booted, lost my profile so thought I had lost everything, no way of getting everything back except by restoring system back to 8th July. So I lost everything, except that vile Video Cleaner, for some reason, so got shot of that immediately. Got back VirtualDub and the mpc player etc. In the meantime, I tried playing the converted bin and cue cd image in my Sony standalone and it played fine, so then tried the original Farenheit cd and whereas before it said "cannot play" it played fine, so due to someone telling me that bin and cue are most played on computer, and the Sony had a temporary blip, I have made a real idiot of myself because I hadnt realised I was producing VCD. So there is no need for me to try and convert bin and cue to a dvd, which apparently is not possible anyway.
I lost FFDShow but I think the main problem was that mkv file must have had something wrong with it.
Yes "P" maybe Matroska file is telling me to buy dvd, but its not available in U.K. and was only trying to convert for a friend's child.
Thanks for all your help, I have learned some stuff even though I didnt convert mkv and will respect my pc a little more now after yesterday's scare! I dont think it liked fddshow or wmv, as it was acting strange in the morning and even started defragging without me opening the program - only found this out because of burring sound and opening up task manager and then I couldnt stop it.
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elainc33
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11. July 2004 @ 02:31 |
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Hi,
Anyone who wants to know about mkv files, there is a site http://www.matroska.org
Regarding wmv files, I am a bit naive obviously, I didnt realise they were used basically for porn which I am definitely not interested in, so do not wish to receive any more private messages from members on their wmv problems, thanks.
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shiroh
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11. July 2004 @ 07:13 |
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djmorbid
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15. July 2004 @ 01:25 |
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hi shiroh, can u please help me....another newbie in all this.... im also trying to play harry potter blah blah .mkv and for me in the wpc its giving only sound no video....ive installed virtualdubmod and FFDShow...
can u please tell me exactly wht to install and run from scratch to get this video running?
pleeeeaaase.... ur help will be appreciated
boi
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elainc33
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15. July 2004 @ 02:16 |
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To djmmorbid: I guess you got the H Potter mkv from the same source as me - complete waste of time. Try downloading the little Media Classic player (mpc) which Shiroh gave the link of in a post in the previous page. That works fine to play it in computer, but if you ever get to convert it, it will be a miracle and I would love to know how you did it. I personally think there is something wrong with that particular download, as all the other downloads I have are accepted by VirtualDub, but not this one.
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djmorbid
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15. July 2004 @ 03:24 |
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hi elainc .... im just trying to play the damn .mkv file...how do i do tht??? :( ! i downloaded wpc and it doesnt play video..plays only audio
any suggeestions??
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elainc33
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15. July 2004 @ 08:32 |
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http://sourceforge.net/projects/guliverkli/
djmorbid - I think this was the link that I got the Media Player Classic download from. I did download an ogg vorbis codec, cant remember from where, but when I had to restore the system (because of River Past Video Cleaner!!!) I lost ogvorb but the player still played Harry P so maybe I didnt need it in the first place. If it is the same file that I downloaded, around 608MB the sound is quite feint anyway, and the speakers need to be turned up on full. Try and get another download in AVI.
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elainc33
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15. July 2004 @ 08:36 |
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djmorbid yep that is the right downloaded about the middle of the list dated 27th March I think
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shiroh
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15. July 2004 @ 10:29 |
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ah, about the audio, try checking if its the player's fault, but propably not. my ogg direct show filter is v.0.9.9.5, have lost track of what's new :P
check with other ogg source, it may be the source.
download the xp version if youre using xp.
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djmorbid
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15. July 2004 @ 15:26 |
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ppl my audio works on wpc....but no video!!! ogg vorbis is audio codec...
wht was tht stuff bout virtualdubmod...can tht help me?
thanks again
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djmorbid
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15. July 2004 @ 15:28 |
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p.s. yea my .mkv file is also 608mb .... n i dont wanna download any other files of harry potter from suprnova.org firstly cuz they dont frikkin start downloading n secondly they're huge.... im determined to make this work...
thx
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shiroh
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15. July 2004 @ 17:50 |
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i know now the mods won't like where this thread heading to.
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elainc33
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16. July 2004 @ 02:51 |
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djmorbid - I think Suprnova is great - at least you get what you see - no filthy porn under a different name. They always start downloading immediately (try using shareaza.com as the client), best to get a new one so there are more sources. The reason they are big (more than the average 690MB AVI etc.) is because they are in rar files which convert to VCD. I got Dodge Ball 1500 MB in around 30 hours, but then I had five other movies downloading but a 680 MB overnight. The only disadvantage I can see is if you are OTT like me and have too many downloading at once, then the uploaders take all the cpu out of your computer so you cant get onto the internet unless you close the program down. I mistakenly got the mkv file but I doubt you will get it to convert as I have tried EVERYTHING and I dont give up easily, you can see that by the number of posts to and fro with poor Shiroh.
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elainc33
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17. July 2004 @ 00:00 |
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to DJMORBID and anyone else still struggling with mkv.
Ive done it!!!! Nobody in the forum mentioned about the Matroska pack being a vital part of the conversion process. I found by accident elsewhere that someone had managed to convert mkv to mpeg using TMPGEnc. So this is what you need go to http://ld-anime-faireal.net/guide/matroska-en you can read a bit about it but within that site you go to http://packs.matroska.org Download Pack Full v 1.0.2
When you run TMPGEnc and open H Potter or whatever your mkv is, it will open up (at long last thank god) then just carry on to the end clicking the various boxes to get to next page and of course ensure you have compressed it to under 4070 GB, then hit the okay button or whatever it is, and it will start encoding. The bad news is that it takes around 5 hours (bearing in mind this particular film is around 2 hours 15 mins long) so I went to bed and left it "cooking", this morning, I opened up TMPGEnc DVD author ran the file through, another 30 minutes, then used their burning program which is a bit slow but onto a dvd+RW, another 30 mins - I usually use vso's CopytoDVD, much quicker, but I wasnt expecting any great shakes, so went along with the existing program. So I have quite a reasonable copy on DVD, one slight disadvantage, the sound is not that loud, also some of the scenes are a little yellowy at times but all in all acceptable. However, I would not bother with mkv again and as the guy was pretty clever who actually produced it and evidently had a dvdrip, it could have been converted into AVI which would have been better quality and I would have used Direct from Divx2dvd, which would have taken, considering the length of the film, around 75 minutes on a dvd rw for the whole process. Anyway, thanks to Shiroh and all for your help and I hope this post will help others.
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elainc33
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17. July 2004 @ 00:31 |
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re mkv etc. P.S. to Last one, forgot to mention, but you probably all already know this. If you dont use the burning program in TMPGEnc DVD Author, you can just go to the Video TS Ifo folder (Vol 1 I think it is called) that it has made, run that through DVD Shrink, hit re-author and then just drag the main movie up and hit back-up. This cuts off the horrible looking blue menu that TMPGEnc DVD Author makes which is no use anyway unless you have chapters. This morning, I just put my dvd+RW through DVD Shrink with the same result and burned it with my normal CopytoDVD program.
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shiroh
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17. July 2004 @ 05:49 |
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now the next step, if you have time, try to figure out to cut steps ;|
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elainc33
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17. July 2004 @ 09:26 |
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I am only a daft old newbie and I wouldnt know what a step was (computerwise) if I fell over it!!
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reaper2k
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17. July 2004 @ 12:25 |
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Nice work. One problem, the link you gave for the guide doesn't work. Is it written correctly? I got few anime in this format and cant get them to work yet. Thank you
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elainc33
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17. July 2004 @ 14:40 |
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To whom and what guide are you referring?
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elainc33
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17. July 2004 @ 14:54 |
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Reaper 2K - if you are referring to the ld-anime-faireal guide yes it is correct but I have just clicked on it and the page wont open. I have exactly the same thing as a desktop shortcut and it will open, so dont know whats up with it, anyway, the guide is not that informative anyway, but the next link which is within that page ie, the packs.matroska, for the downoad pack, that link is working and that is what you need anyway. Once you get that you should be able to open the mkv in TmpGenc
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elainc33
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17. July 2004 @ 15:17 |
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What's Matroska?
Read this guide in your language:
日本語 English suomi Polski Deutsch Русский
Norsk Magyar français español Nederlands Português (Brasil)
Italiano Slovenský Bahasa Melayu
Jargon::Matroska
So you want to play MKVs? Get the newest official Packs at:
http://packs.matroska.org/
Mirror
You don't like bloated codec packs? Try our multilingual installer, which will install minimal components: 2 Splitters (Core) and VSFilter (Needed for subtitles). You might need additional decoders (Codec) for the audio/video. Follow the link for more information:
http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA022257/matroska/
Various Matroska Video Samples: Test your settings:
http://matroska.free.fr/samples/
How to Play MKV (Matroska Video)
Lazy Man's Guide to MKV
http://ld-anime.faireal.net/guide/matroska
PDF Version: http://m17n.cool.ne.jp/matroska-en.pdf
7 June 2003
Liisachan & fiveam
Team #LD-Anime
Matroska is a cross-platform, patent-free, open-source media file format, which is even newer than OGM. Matroska is not a codec (like MPEG-1, XviD, DivX, or VP3), but a container (like OGM) where you can put video(s) + audio(s) + sub(s). Supported audio formats include Ogg Vorbis, AAC, MP3, and AC3.
What are the Pros and Cons?
Matroska is more compact (roughly, OGM 175MB = Matroska 174MB):
Higher quality than OGM in the same file size.
Matroska files are either of a higher quality or more compact than OGM (roughly 174MB compared to 175MB for OGM), thanks to a new flexible file structure called EBML, also known as "Binary XML". The exact same A/V information in an OGM can be stored more efficiently in Matroska, resulting in a significantly smaller file size. Matroska has the same capabilities, if not more, than OGM, while saving (roughly) 4MB of storage for every 700MB of information. For these reasons, should Matroska's technology stabilize, OGM may even become obsolete.
In other words, if the size of Matroska file and OGM file are equal, the Matroska's quality would be higher. For instance:
175MB OGM = 160MB Video + 13.5MB Audio + 1.5MB Overhead for muxing
175MB Matroska = 160MB Video + 14.5MB Audio + 0.5MB Overhead for muxing
Because of the smaller overhead, you would be able to use a higher bitrate in the Matroska and still end up with the same file size.
The subtitles in OGM are incompatible with Unicode / ISO
The subs in OGM can support various languages by switching so-called Code Pages. For instance, the same code E8 in hex can mean U+00E8 è (e with grave accent) in the Western-Europe Code Page, U+010D č (c with caron) in the Central-Europe Code Page, or U+0438 и (Russian small letter i) in the Cyrillic Code Page.
A different character has a different code point in Unicode, like U+00E8, U+010D, and U+0438 in the above example. Windows 2000 and XP work in this way internally. But older operation systems like MS-DOS use the same code (E8 in the above example) for different characters, and distinguish them by switching Code Pages.
Those Code Pages are incompatible with Unicode, even for European languages.
Currently, subtitles embedded in OGM utilizes this older method. Basically, in order to view subtitles in different languages, the Code Page must be switched manually, which can be a nuisance. In some cases, the subs still cannot be viewed correctly despite the manual change.
Matroska, which uses subs based on the Unicode, is expected to bypass these messy problems.
If the language settings of your OS happen to be "Western Europe," you may feel that OGM is a great system. However, a good software should have universal appeal and be used with the same ease by everyone. All softsubs in a Matroska video would viewed correctly in the same amount of ease by people all over the world. Unfortunately, OGM does not have this versatility.
If you are an avid anime fan, you may feel a desire to view Japanese kanjis in your subs, even if you cannot read them. While there is no harm in having the capability of viewing all the languages properly, it would be a disservice to not be able to. Embedding Unicode-based softsubs has been a long-awaited desire for us (at #LD-Anime), who are multi-subbing in more than 10 different languages. That is one of the many reasons why we are looking forward to using Matroska. Unlike the closed-source format developed personally by Tobias, a genius in Europe, Matroska is being developed by many people with roots in various languages.
The subs in Matroska will be richer.
The softsubs in OGM does not allow for notes (usually in a smaller font size) to be added to the top of the screen. Editorial notes are used as a tool by subbers to explain a word or cultural background that may be unfamiliar to the general viewers. This is currently the practice with hardsubs (in AVI); but is impossible with OGM softsubs. Furthermore, subbers are frustrated by the lack of freedom in the style of the subtitles in OGM. Subtitles are designed to not only convey the idea of the spoken dialogue, but also to help create the mood or setting. For example, special fonts may be used for a magical spell, a radio announcer, an AI's synthetic voice, etc. However, these tools are surrendered when working with OGM. (Some fansubbers feel that OGM is useless for this reason.)
Matroska will be supporting SSA and ASS, which means, everything that can be done in hardsub, will be available in softsub. What's more, Matroska is going to support an even newer, XML-based sub format: USF.
Stability
Despite all the promising features, Matroska is still not a practical format to use at the moment. As of 7 June 2003, Matroska is still in the beta stage (version 0.4.x.) Since Matroska has not stablized yet, OGM is still the practical and realistic format to use.
Added 2004-02-06: Matroska (MKV) has already shown good stability, and quite a few groups have switched to MKV from OGM.
Where Can I Find Out More About Matroska?
Visit the Matroska Official Site. Ask your question in the CoreCodec Forum. Another place to visit is the "New A/V Formats" section in the doom9 forum. The Project guliverkli provides alternative matroska splitter for directshow.
Last but not least, we are big fans of OGM. We are still using OGM for our multi-language subbing needs. We are even devoted to spreading the use of OGM by web-publishing the Lazy Man's Guide to Ogg Media (OGM Files). So, please do not misunderstand us. We are looking forward to Matroska not because we hate OGM; but in actuality we are quite fond and familiar with OGM, and so we look forward to working with softsubs in ways we couldn't with OGM.
Just because Matroska may have some advantages over OGM, that does not mean that OGM should be abandoned. If your project isn't very ambitious, OGM may be more than sufficient. We just want to try new things.
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elainc33
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17. July 2004 @ 15:22 |
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Sorry about the looooooong guide, was doing my best but must have kept my finger on the Cntrl V for too long, but at least you have got the Matroska guide now!!!!!! Fixed now, sorry about that, never quoted a site before.
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