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Amazon takes down Facebook poll after PS4 destroys Xbox One
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article published on 16 June, 2013
On June 13th, Amazon put a poll up on their Video Games division's Facebook page asking consumers one simple question; Do you prefer the PlayStation 4 or the Xbox One.
Three days and over 40,000 votes later, the etailing giant has taken down the poll prematurely, as it was set to run until June 20th.
The PS4 absolutely demolished the Xbox One, with 38,984 votes for the Sony console ... [ read the full article ]
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19. June 2013 @ 18:31 |
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Microsoft has changed its policies regarding Xbox One?s internet requirements, used game restrictions and more.
Contrary to the details announced earlier this month, Microsoft has now confirmed news originally reported on Giant Bomb that Xbox One will not require an internet connection to play offline games or need to check in every 24 hours; instead, internet will only be required when initially setting up the console.
"After a one-time system set-up with a new Xbox One, you can play any disc based game without ever connecting online again," Microsoft wrote. "There is no 24 hour connection requirement and you can take your Xbox One anywhere you want and play your games, just like on Xbox 360."
Like on Xbox 360, "playing disc based games will require that the disc be in the tray."
Xbox One will also no longer restrict used games, and will instead allow discs to be exchanged in the same way they are on Xbox 360. There will be no additional restrictions for trade-ins or lending games to friends. The system is also no longer be region locked and all downloaded games will function the same way whether your console is connected or not.
"Since unveiling our plans for Xbox One, my team and I have heard directly from many of you, read your comments and listened to your feedback," Microsoft's Don Mattrick wrote. "I would like to take the opportunity today to thank you for your assistance in helping us to reshape the future of Xbox One. You told us how much you loved the flexibility you have today with games delivered on disc. The ability to lend, share, and resell these games at your discretion is of incredible importance to you. Also important to you is the freedom to play offline, for any length of time, anywhere in the world."
In addition to being available in retail stores, Xbox One games will still be available for download on day one and will be playable on any Xbox One console.
"These changes will impact some of the scenarios we previously announced for Xbox One," Mattrick noted. "The sharing of games will work as it does today, you will simply share the disc. Downloaded titles cannot be shared or resold."
"We appreciate your passion, support and willingness to challenge the assumptions of digital licensing and connectivity," Mattrick concluded. "While we believe that the majority of people will play games online and access the cloud for both games and entertainment, we will give consumers the choice of both physical and digital content. We have listened and we have heard loud and clear from your feedback that you want the best of both worlds."
Microsoft's decision follows mass confusion following the announcement of Xbox One in May. At E3 last week, Sony announced similar policies for PlayStation 4, which will not require an internet connection or periodic authentication and does not restrict used games.
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rosedog
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19. June 2013 @ 20:51 |
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Crow... ITS WHATS FOR DINNER!
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SomeBozo
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20. June 2013 @ 00:50 |
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Originally posted by JOHNSTARR:
"After a one-time system set-up with a new Xbox One, you can play any disc based game without ever connecting online again," Microsoft wrote. "There is no 24 hour connection requirement and you can take your Xbox One anywhere you want and play your games, just like on Xbox 360."
I'm not even liking this requirement.
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20. June 2013 @ 05:39 |
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Originally posted by SomeBozo:
Originally posted by JOHNSTARR:
"After a one-time system set-up with a new Xbox One, you can play any disc based game without ever connecting online again," Microsoft wrote. "There is no 24 hour connection requirement and you can take your Xbox One anywhere you want and play your games, just like on Xbox 360."
I'm not even liking this requirement.
Ditto.
What's the reason for even this?
PS: Still doesn't make up for what seems a lackluster machine anyway.
Its a lot easier being righteous than right.
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20. June 2013 @ 08:50 |
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Well it seems that Microsoft have now taken a U-Turn and have removed restrictions. No DRM rubbish and you now can play used games! all they need to do now is reduce the price.
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20. June 2013 @ 09:53 |
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Mattrick and everyone else involved in this big-brother scheme should be fired immediately. Maybe they can find a job with a Chinese spy company.
Microsoft says "We listened." Pleeeeze. They f..ked up and the backlash was going to hurt their bottom line. They couldn't care less about the consumer.
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20. June 2013 @ 14:45 |
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Originally posted by Jemborg:
Originally posted by SomeBozo:
Originally posted by JOHNSTARR:
"After a one-time system set-up with a new Xbox One, you can play any disc based game without ever connecting online again," Microsoft wrote. "There is no 24 hour connection requirement and you can take your Xbox One anywhere you want and play your games, just like on Xbox 360."
I'm not even liking this requirement.
Ditto.
What's the reason for even this?
PS: Still doesn't make up for what seems a lackluster machine anyway.
I'm pretty sure it will be to brand your machine and allow anyone to track you... The only reason I can see this is you have to enter all your information, to end up with a GUID that MS will kindly put on your machine to uniquely identify you, from then on you will be branded for life...
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20. June 2013 @ 15:05 |
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Originally posted by SomeBozo:
Originally posted by Jemborg:
Originally posted by SomeBozo:
Originally posted by JOHNSTARR:
"After a one-time system set-up with a new Xbox One, you can play any disc based game without ever connecting online again," Microsoft wrote. "There is no 24 hour connection requirement and you can take your Xbox One anywhere you want and play your games, just like on Xbox 360."
I'm not even liking this requirement.
Ditto.
What's the reason for even this?
PS: Still doesn't make up for what seems a lackluster machine anyway.
I'm pretty sure it will be to brand your machine and allow anyone to track you... The only reason I can see this is you have to enter all your information, to end up with a GUID that MS will kindly put on your machine to uniquely identify you, from then on you will be branded for life...
They also talked about a hardware update (the update getting rid of the online BS).
Its a lot easier being righteous than right.
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20. June 2013 @ 16:00 |
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Originally posted by ChiefBrdy:
Mattrick and everyone else involved in this big-brother scheme should be fired immediately. Maybe they can find a job with a Chinese spy company.
Microsoft says "We listened." Pleeeeze. They f..ked up and the backlash was going to hurt their bottom line. They couldn't care less about the consumer.
Isn't that listening? It's the same with ANY company that changes their policies because of feedback, it's so they don't loose your custom, plain and simple.. Why do you think Sony backtracked?
That being said, I don't trust Sony either, and fully believe that after sales of the PS4 have taken off, they will murder that console just like they did the PS3.. Sony is all for DRM, they even tried to add it to their music CDs, and you can bet your bottom dollar that they will try to get it on the PS4 some time in the future, using updates that you are forced to download or lose the ability to play new games etc.. They have already refused to add backward compatibility to ensure you update/buy new games (do you really think that the PS4 is 'incapable' of playing games from the previous PlayStations? They are just unwilling to add it.)
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20. June 2013 @ 16:10 |
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Then I must have read the wrong article. MS's rub was that they were back peddling because they care about the consumer's gaming experience. Nowhere in the article did Mattrick say they were doing it for financial reasons or to rub the crap from all over his face.
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20. June 2013 @ 16:32 |
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Originally posted by Todge:
Originally posted by ChiefBrdy:
Mattrick and everyone else involved in this big-brother scheme should be fired immediately. Maybe they can find a job with a Chinese spy company.
Microsoft says "We listened." Pleeeeze. They f..ked up and the backlash was going to hurt their bottom line. They couldn't care less about the consumer.
Isn't that listening? It's the same with ANY company that changes their policies because of feedback, it's so they don't loose your custom, plain and simple.. Why do you think Sony backtracked?
That being said, I don't trust Sony either, and fully believe that after sales of the PS4 have taken off, they will murder that console just like they did the PS3.. Sony is all for DRM, they even tried to add it to their music CDs, and you can bet your bottom dollar that they will try to get it on the PS4 some time in the future, using updates that you are forced to download or lose the ability to play new games etc.. They have already refused to add backward compatibility to ensure you update/buy new games (do you really think that the PS4 is 'incapable' of playing games from the previous PlayStations? They are just unwilling to add it.)
Back off on the BC (backward compatibility). No company wants to support old versions, it's not in its interest. The launch PS3 is the only one offers BC for PS2 games, even then it's not 100%. Stop talking about BC like it's a big deal, it's NOT! It's not about the new gadgets can play the older generation software, it's about SUPPORTS! If you label BC on the new gadgets then you better gear up because there always some old titles will not work.
This is the same reason behind software versions, most older versions are obsolete, developers simply stop supporting them (either upgrade or use the hardware configuration that runs the old versions).
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20. June 2013 @ 16:39 |
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Of cause they will say that, they are using it to try and regain the trust they may have lost with the restrictions.
They made a mistake, and with the backlash they got, it obviously hit home. Microsoft want your money, and need it to ensure the future of the console, so they change policies to be more customer friendly to try and make sure they get the support.
They are hardly going to make an announcement along the lines of 'Sh!t, we screwed up, we'll change it so you give your cash to US, not them (pointing at Sony)', they try and turn it into a point for them.
My point was, that they DID listen to people, and made changes because of it.
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22. June 2013 @ 18:32 |
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Originally posted by Mrmars:
Originally posted by joebloe12:
@manitoba...Oh give me a BREAK! Yes Sony has screwed over consumers in the past and so has Microsoft, but I think Sony has learned their lesson this time around.
And one OTHER THING...those numbers do not lie about how people are feeling about this DRM crap Microsoft is trying to push off on their customers.
If things stay as they are, Microsoft could get demolished in sales and it would be their fault for doing it!
Sony is going to slip that DRM in your drink as soon as you're not looking and don't count on that backwards compatibility either they said its rolling out in 2014 as soon as you forget or no longer care its one less feature they have to give to you the only lesson they've learned is how to make people forget what they done in the past DRM coming to a PS4 near you 2014 update
I'm not trying to tell you to buy one gaming system over another who am I to tell you how to spend your money but I know this the DRM is coming because the developers want it
I'm sorry can you be a little more consice ? I'd like to know one programmer or coder that wants to waste their life on DRM ! Please enlighten me !
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22. June 2013 @ 22:55 |
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Originally posted by bigk1010:
I'm sorry can you be a little more consice(sic) ? I'd like to know one programmer or coder that wants to waste their life on DRM ! Please enlighten me !
Ones that make money out of it obviously... concise enough?
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