Originally posted by ZippyDSM:

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My 2 lints yes win8 preforms better but it its a pain to have to go through extra steps to customize it.

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Originally posted by Virgil_B:

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Originally posted by SomeBozo:

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Originally posted by Mrguss:

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The way I see it:
W-8 need a lot of push $ to be accepted.
It's another Vista?!

lol.

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I might disagree that money, marketing and advertizing is the way to make win8 and the metro interface accepted. I might disagree that Win8 is another Vista, you're being too generous :) I think it is more like another Bob :)

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Wow! I had forgotten all about Bob.

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Originally posted by h0g1e:

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I can't believe people are still whinging about Windows 8 .. either you haven't used it properly or you're very slow learners?

I admit, it's different ... but as an IT technician I have grown to really love it ... it's fresh, easy to use, fast, and efficient.

My cousin who is an absolute monkey when it comes to computers and technology came to me with an issue ... I told him to uninstall a piece of software from his Win8 laptop because he didn't need it ... and he straight away was able to uninstall the software (where in Win7 or XP most people would simply delete the shortcut but not uninstall the software properly!) ... this made me think that Win8 is actually quite intuitive for beginners and non-tech saavy people too ... it's going to be interesting watching it evolve :)

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Originally posted by dufas:

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There are many computer uses where touch screens and huge blocks designed for tablets and 4G phones won't cut it. Besides, it is difficult to accurately create 3D stl files using just a finger...........

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Originally posted by Jemborg:

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Originally posted by dufas:

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There are many computer uses where touch screens and huge blocks designed for tablets and 4G phones won't cut it. Besides, it is difficult to accurately create 3D stl files using just a finger...........

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^^^That's right... in all the kerfuffle I forgot with win8 you can't use a mouse!!!

Thanks for setting us straight on that! :)

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Originally posted by Virgil_B:

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Dufus, I agree with you about the tiles and touch screens, but I was able to install Classic Shell (open source and free) which restored the start button and also allowed me to boot straight to the desktop. Essentially turning Windows 8.1 into a basic Windows 7 box with Windows 8 capabilities. This allowed me to have accurate control of my desktop and critical video applications and at the same time toggling to the Windows 8 surface giving me the best of both worlds. I see some speed improvements with legacy programs running in Windows 8 over 7 as well. I think the Corporate world had bandwidth and security issues with the active tiles always connecting to the internet to update the display and the hardware costs of replacing the flat screen displays with touch screen displays. I think the Corporate customer's dissatisfaction with Windows 8 is why Microsoft is bringing back the start screen and the basic desktop functions.

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Originally posted by Jemborg:

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Originally posted by dufas:

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There are many computer uses where touch screens and huge blocks designed for tablets and 4G phones won't cut it. Besides, it is difficult to accurately create 3D stl files using just a finger...........

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^^^That's right... in all the kerfuffle I forgot with win8 you can't use a mouse!!!

Thanks for setting us straight on that! :)

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Originally posted by dufas:

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Windows 8 reminds me of Ford when they brought out the 'baby' Mustang based on the Pinto. Ford was going to force their cars onto the public whether the public wanted it or not. General Motors tried the same with their 'baby' Lincoln built on the X Car chassis... It took a couple of years until the companies realized that it was not their way or else. They didn't sell many of those cars. Microsoft has the same arrogance the the car companies have. "We know what is better for you, so here it is, take it or lump it..."

The computer and it's OS is a tool. If the tool cannot be used, a lot of people are going to go back and use the tools that work..

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Originally posted by core2kid:

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Probably the best $5 any Windows 8 user will spend.

http://www.stardock.com/products/start8/

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Originally posted by Jemborg:

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Originally posted by Mrguss:

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When I look at the W-8 squares-blocks it just send me all the way back to Kindergarten (Retro-play-games).
My best guess is that W-8 is more oriented for those "afraid" first time computer users.

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Fair enough but, as I said, I don't particularly find Win8 intuitive... just logical. Imo not really great for pooter virgins who don't know what to look for.

In contrast with yourself... a person I build a rig exclusively for gaming likes to use OblyTile to create tiles to launch games from the Start screen. It's a look he likes... a console look I suppose. My beef with the process is that he can run a "desktop" program, like a game, from the Start Screen but it returns him to the desktop after he closes it. This is incongruous and takes him out of that "feel", for want of a better word which I can't think of atm (you get what I mean), and he has to manually re-load the Start screen again and again.

What I mean to say is that he wants that "progressive looks of the past" you prefer firmly hidden in the background to have to deal with when only he has to. He just wants to see his fancy-pants game icons.


Also, I just want to add, Win8 is slightly better at gaming than Win7... I don't know what you can do about that.



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Originally posted by phobet:

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I took a look at OblyTile. It looks interesting, though I wish they had better screenshots. For my own system, I use "Fences" by StarDock. Let's you organize your icons just about any way you want to.

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Originally posted by dufas:

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Originally posted by Jemborg:

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Originally posted by dufas:

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There are many computer uses where touch screens and huge blocks designed for tablets and 4G phones won't cut it. Besides, it is difficult to accurately create 3D stl files using just a finger...........

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^^^That's right... in all the kerfuffle I forgot with win8 you can't use a mouse!!!

Thanks for setting us straight on that! :)

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Windows 8 can use a mouse but it is clumsy and clunky plus all the extra steps one has to take to get where wants to be in the computer. Win 8 is a good OS for surfing the 'net, looking at 'purty' pictures, and viewing multimedia... Sort of like using an Iphone to design a new building.

My daughter uses a Walcom tablet and stylus in her work and it creates nothing but trouble on Win 8..even more clumsy than navigating with a mouse.. On Win 7 and XP, it is like working with pen, ink, and paper...smooth..

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