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DirectX 12 will not be supported on Windows 7
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article published on 15 November, 2014
Despite being the most popular Windows operating system, by far, it appears gamers who want the benefits of the upcoming DirectX 12 will have to upgrade their operating system.
DirectX 12 promises gamers reduced CPU overhead and much improved multithreading support leading to increased performance while gaming. In addition, the software promises reduced power consumption, which is great ... [ read the full article ]
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18. November 2014 @ 15:57 |
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IguanaC64
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18. November 2014 @ 16:08 |
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That machine is way more than I'd pay for a gaming rig.
Case = ~$100, but that's personal preference...can get a decent one for $40 on sale with free shipping.
Mobo = $250? Last gaming mobo I paid that much for was an absolute pos. I go for a good MSI in the ~100-~150 range tops. I could go cheaper if I found one on sale that had the ports I wanted and had some patience.
CPU = I never buy I7 for my gaming rigs...price/perforance is bleh. A decently fast I5 is plenty.
FAN = Ok...this time around I did spend $110 for a 240mm radiator because I built in a small case and wanted to reduce heat inside the case, but generally I can easily get away with stock fans that don't cost near $80. $80 is really for a top end Noctua fan...nice, but not necessary.
RAM = close enough
Power Supply = I only run one video card (I tried SLI...not worth it), using a PS calculator I could get away with a 550w. I bought a oversized 750w Corsair for ~75AR to help with efficiency. People don't NEED 1200w power supplies.
SSD - bought a bad ass Micron 512g SSD...$200
Optical Drive - Don't need one. I don't have any need for an optical drive at all except to load Windows. My $10 USB dvd drive works fine for this (worst case scenario, hook up an old DVD drive long enough to load your OS)
KB/Mouse = $100?! No...just no. I have kids that are not keyboard/mouse friendly. I spend about $30-$40 tops. Maybe once they move out, I'll treat myself to a nice keyboard. "Gaming" keyboards with highlighted WASD keys piss me off. ESDF is vastly superior.
Video card - Ok...yes...I spend this much sometimes. My last card was a Radeon R9 270x w/ 2g which has run all my games without a stutter and after rebates/Newegg codes it was down to ~$170.
On top of all that, I scoured my Newegg emails and Techbargains. I knocked another $70 off my total comp price using Newegg codes for stuff I was already buying.
When I do go to those sites to check their prices, they usually want to charge me way over what I'd pay on sale at Newegg. So far, my machine runs cool and runs every game I've thrown at it at max without stuttering...and it was ~$1100 after all was said and done. I could have gotten away with cheaper if I hadn't wanted to build a mini-itx build this time around.
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dEwMe
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18. November 2014 @ 16:12 |
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Originally posted by IguanaC64:
That machine is way more than I'd pay for a gaming rig.
Case = ~$100, but that's personal preference...can get a decent one for $40 on sale with free shipping.
Mobo = $250? Last gaming I paid that much for was an absolute pos. I go for a good MSI in the ~100-~150 range tops. I could go cheaper if I found one on sale that had the ports I wanted and had some patience.
CPU = I never buy I7 for my gaming rigs...price/perforance is bleh. A decently fast I5 is plenty.
FAN = Ok...this time around I did spend $110 for a 240mm radiator because I built in a small case and wanted to reduce heat inside the case, but generally I can easily get away with stock fans that don't cost near $80. $80 is really for a top end Noctua fan...nice, but not necessary.
RAM = close enough
Power Supply = I only run one video card (I tried SLI...not worth it), using a PS calculator I could get away with a 550w. I bought a oversized 750w Corsair for ~75AR to help with efficiency. People don't NEED 1200w power supplies.
SSD - bought a bad ass Micron 512g SSD...$200
Optical Drive - Don't need one. I don't have any need for an optical drive at all except to load Windows. My $10 USB dvd drive works fine for this (worst case scenario, hook up an old DVD drive long enough to load your OS)
KB/Mouse = $100?! No...just no. I have kids that are not keyboard/mouse friendly. I spend about $30-$40 tops. Maybe once they move out, I'll treat myself to a nice keyboard. "Gaming" keyboards with highlighted WASD keys piss me off. ESDF is vastly superior.
Video card - Ok...yes...I spend this much sometimes. My last card was a Radeon R9 270x w/ 2g which has run all my games without a stutter and after rebates/Newegg codes it was down to ~$170.
On top of all that, I scoured my Newegg emails and Techbargains. I knocked another $70 off my total comp price using Newegg codes for stuff I was already buying.
When I do go to those sites to check their prices, they usually want to charge me way over what I'd pay on sale at Newegg. So far, my machine runs cool and runs every game I've thrown at it at max without stuttering...and it was ~$1100 after all was said and done. I could have gotten away with cheaper if I hadn't wanted to build a micro-atx build this time around.
But still WAY better than one you bought from HP premade. IMNSHO.
Just my $0.02,
dEwMe
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18. November 2014 @ 18:15 |
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If you want any type of decent gaming rig, you really do have to build your own system or buy a custom-built from one of the manufacture'rs that offer this service. A store bought consumer rig just won't cut it with the major games these days.
I don't even game and I've built all my own rigs since 2002, 4 for myself and 18 for other people. I prefer to pick my own parts even though I don't use them to their full capacity most of the time. I still by the quality parts just for their reliability and when I DO need their full power, I have it and I've never had a part fail yet. In fact, all my other rigs I built are STILL running on the original parts to this day, I sold them to friends with no hesitation. You don't get that from a $30-40 PSU, a $50 GPU &/or cheap RAM, for the most part you get what you pay for so I stick with quality and don't worry about them failing in a year.
Every now & then tho, I have seen a high powered HP (or other brand) rig on Best Buy or Future Shop shelves, still not the quality I get from building my own but getting close.
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ispeedca
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21. November 2014 @ 17:30 |
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Originally posted by IguanaC64:
That machine is way more than I'd pay for a gaming rig.
Case = ~$100, but that's personal preference...can get a decent one for $40 on sale with free shipping.
Mobo = $250? Last gaming mobo I paid that much for was an absolute pos. I go for a good MSI in the ~100-~150 range tops. I could go cheaper if I found one on sale that had the ports I wanted and had some patience.
CPU = I never buy I7 for my gaming rigs...price/perforance is bleh. A decently fast I5 is plenty.
FAN = Ok...this time around I did spend $110 for a 240mm radiator because I built in a small case and wanted to reduce heat inside the case, but generally I can easily get away with stock fans that don't cost near $80. $80 is really for a top end Noctua fan...nice, but not necessary.
RAM = close enough
Power Supply = I only run one video card (I tried SLI...not worth it), using a PS calculator I could get away with a 550w. I bought a oversized 750w Corsair for ~75AR to help with efficiency. People don't NEED 1200w power supplies.
SSD - bought a bad ass Micron 512g SSD...$200
Optical Drive - Don't need one. I don't have any need for an optical drive at all except to load Windows. My $10 USB dvd drive works fine for this (worst case scenario, hook up an old DVD drive long enough to load your OS)
KB/Mouse = $100?! No...just no. I have kids that are not keyboard/mouse friendly. I spend about $30-$40 tops. Maybe once they move out, I'll treat myself to a nice keyboard. "Gaming" keyboards with highlighted WASD keys piss me off. ESDF is vastly superior.
Video card - Ok...yes...I spend this much sometimes. My last card was a Radeon R9 270x w/ 2g which has run all my games without a stutter and after rebates/Newegg codes it was down to ~$170.
On top of all that, I scoured my Newegg emails and Techbargains. I knocked another $70 off my total comp price using Newegg codes for stuff I was already buying.
When I do go to those sites to check their prices, they usually want to charge me way over what I'd pay on sale at Newegg. So far, my machine runs cool and runs every game I've thrown at it at max without stuttering...and it was ~$1100 after all was said and done. I could have gotten away with cheaper if I hadn't wanted to build a mini-itx build this time around.
MSI MOBOS are POS. I own two of the last gaming ones and regret it all the way. Was so happy in the past with asus...
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21. November 2014 @ 17:33 |
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Originally posted by ispeedca:
Originally posted by IguanaC64:
That machine is way more than I'd pay for a gaming rig.
Case = ~$100, but that's personal preference...can get a decent one for $40 on sale with free shipping.
Mobo = $250? Last gaming mobo I paid that much for was an absolute pos. I go for a good MSI in the ~100-~150 range tops. I could go cheaper if I found one on sale that had the ports I wanted and had some patience.
CPU = I never buy I7 for my gaming rigs...price/perforance is bleh. A decently fast I5 is plenty.
FAN = Ok...this time around I did spend $110 for a 240mm radiator because I built in a small case and wanted to reduce heat inside the case, but generally I can easily get away with stock fans that don't cost near $80. $80 is really for a top end Noctua fan...nice, but not necessary.
RAM = close enough
Power Supply = I only run one video card (I tried SLI...not worth it), using a PS calculator I could get away with a 550w. I bought a oversized 750w Corsair for ~75AR to help with efficiency. People don't NEED 1200w power supplies.
SSD - bought a bad ass Micron 512g SSD...$200
Optical Drive - Don't need one. I don't have any need for an optical drive at all except to load Windows. My $10 USB dvd drive works fine for this (worst case scenario, hook up an old DVD drive long enough to load your OS)
KB/Mouse = $100?! No...just no. I have kids that are not keyboard/mouse friendly. I spend about $30-$40 tops. Maybe once they move out, I'll treat myself to a nice keyboard. "Gaming" keyboards with highlighted WASD keys piss me off. ESDF is vastly superior.
Video card - Ok...yes...I spend this much sometimes. My last card was a Radeon R9 270x w/ 2g which has run all my games without a stutter and after rebates/Newegg codes it was down to ~$170.
On top of all that, I scoured my Newegg emails and Techbargains. I knocked another $70 off my total comp price using Newegg codes for stuff I was already buying.
When I do go to those sites to check their prices, they usually want to charge me way over what I'd pay on sale at Newegg. So far, my machine runs cool and runs every game I've thrown at it at max without stuttering...and it was ~$1100 after all was said and done. I could have gotten away with cheaper if I hadn't wanted to build a mini-itx build this time around.
MSI MOBOS are POS. I own two of the last gaming ones and regret it all the way. Was so happy in the past with asus...
Its starting to come down to what model it is. Even MSI can have a mobo better than asus,ect now and then.
Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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