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PC FREEZING WHEN CONVERTING!
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dupfold
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19. June 2005 @ 01:25 |
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Hello
Seen I've been converting mpg to avi's again (for the last two weeks) my pc has been resetting itself or freezing. To cut a long story short I've narrowed it down to when I'm using any video converter prog to convert mpg to avi.
My cpu temp is fine, I have 2800+ AMD, 1GB corsair memory (memtested ok), dfi lanparty NFII Ultra B ((Nvidia nForce Ultra 400), Nvida geforce FX 5700LE (256mb) and creative Audigy 2.
Any ideas why this could be happening or how it can be resolved?
Please please please help, driving my crazy and its not doing my hd's any good with such hard resets.
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DaisyLin
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20. June 2005 @ 01:05 |
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Please make sure that your mpg file is perfect. And also, you'd better install a divx codec and Klite to have a try!
By the way, have you ever tried with WinAVI Video Converter to do this job? If not, you can download one to have a try! I have used that program for a long time, and never experienced any problem!
http://www.winavi.com/video-converter.htm
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dupfold
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20. June 2005 @ 01:17 |
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all codecs installed - codecs not the problem.
Nothing wrong with mpg file.
already got winavi, same problems.
All obvious things checked - has anyone else got any suggestions?
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DaisyLin
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20. June 2005 @ 01:38 |
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That is weird! Maybe you have to contact at support@winavi.com for some solutions!
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dupfold
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20. June 2005 @ 05:06 |
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no its nothing to do with winavi in particular, it happens using any converting prog.
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The_OGS
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21. June 2005 @ 15:44 |
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Your CPU runs 166FSB (333DDR).
I'll bet your memory is running asynchronously at 400DDR.
Check your memory timings in BIOS and ensure they are set to SPD.
Then, set memory to run synchronously with your FSB at 333DDR (PC2700 speed). Try it at SPD first, then once you confirm stability, you can become more aggressive with the memory timings at the lower, synchronous memory speed.
When encoding AVIs, try to read the VOBs from one HD and output the results to another HD, this is MUCH easier on the HDs and will reduce a whole lot of time, noise, heat and wear & tear...
But anyway, try the memory trick (the extra memory bandwidth is redundant, because with memory operation in excess of the FSB speed the potential speed gains are negated by the extra latency involved in asynchronous operation).
This trick has fixed many unstable dual-channel PCs (and actually speeded them up :^)
I recommend GordianKnot with the XviD codec.
Regards
ABit AB9 Pro
Intel Core 2 Duo E6420 @ 2.4GHz
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ATI Radeon X1900XT 512MB
Enermax Liberty 620W
320GB/16MB WD, 150GB/16MB Raptor
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dupfold
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21. June 2005 @ 17:39 |
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hello The_OGS. Thx for your reply and I understand what you are saying by my CPU is the 3200+ version (not 2800+ as prev stated - soz), i.e FSB 400DDR, so there is no redundancy.
I'm sure this whole message is to do with my modem (speedtouch 330 USB) but I have the latest drivers.
I've now taken a note of the error message which reads.....
PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA
Problem Seems to be cause by win32K.sys
Tech Info
***STOP 0X00000050
(0XFF9F3380, 0X00000000, 0XBF814312, 0X00000000)
***Win32.sys - address BF814312 base at BF800000, DATESTAMP 422511A2
I've read the microsoft reference but its not much help as it cannot pin point the error as win32k.sys is a general system file.
I really don't know what to do - its happening now even when I'm not converting too.
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The_OGS
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22. June 2005 @ 10:08 |
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Page fault is a memory error.
First check to ensure your RAM is running only SPD setting in BIOS.
Then check your other settings in BIOS for any misconfiguration.
I have suggested Wim's BIOS as an excellent resource for people:
http://www.wimsbios.com
Once your hardware is solid, you must troubleshoot your OS.
Review your pagefile settings (ideally pagefile would be on different HD than OS).
At this point (if all OK) your OS is infected with ?
Run Spybot S&D, run AdAware, run TrojanHunter...
You have an antivirus scan already, right?
But if hardware and settings OK, you probably have gawd-knows-what running within your OS :^(
(You and 99/100 others...)
Check it out,
L8R
ABit AB9 Pro
Intel Core 2 Duo E6420 @ 2.4GHz
2GB OCZ PC2-6400 Platinum XTC R2
ATI Radeon X1900XT 512MB
Enermax Liberty 620W
320GB/16MB WD, 150GB/16MB Raptor
Plextor PX-755SA DVD (SATA)
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22. June 2005 @ 11:44 |
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i had a problem very similar to this. iworked on it for a few months. it turned out it was my mobo. i tried updating the bios first but that didnt help. so i took $50 to tigerdirect and all my problems were solved.
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Damager
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24. June 2005 @ 22:29 |
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To The OGS
Ive had exactly the same problem as dupfold in that whatever program im using to encode avi's to mpeg, my pc freezes, sometimes it can freeze at 99% or at 5%. trhe codecs are fine.
like yourself i also run a 2500xp+ barton cpu on a ultra nforce2 400 gigabyte motherboard, but have in the bios increased the fsb to 200 (400 mhz fsb) also running 2 x 256 megs of ddr400 ram in dual channel. result is 2500xp+ running at 3200xp+
in the bios its on "by spd". but can you explain step by step how i follow your previous suggestion ---> Your CPU runs 166FSB (333DDR).
I'll bet your memory is running asynchronously at 400DDR.
Check your memory timings in BIOS and ensure they are set to SPD.
Then, set memory to run synchronously with your FSB at 333DDR (PC2700 speed). Try it at SPD first, then once you confirm stability, you can become more aggressive with the memory timings at the lower, synchronous memory speed. But anyway, try the memory trick (the extra memory bandwidth is redundant, because with memory operation in excess of the FSB speed the potential speed gains are negated by the extra latency involved in asynchronous operation).
This trick has fixed many unstable dual-channel PCs (and actually speeded them up :^)
Please advise
Thanks :-)
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 25. June 2005 @ 03:37
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The_OGS
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28. June 2005 @ 08:28 |
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If your CPU is running 166FSB (333DDR) like the majority of AthlonXP, you can do that.
But if CPU is running 200FSB then PC3200 memory (400DDR) is synchronous @ 6:6 and there is nothing to do.
The trick is in underclocking the memory to be synchronous, then 'leaning' on the memory timings (PC3200 @ PC2700-speed will support much more aggressive timings :^)
Your overall performance will be similar, with stability usually greatly enhanced.
Running 2500+ at 3200+ (200FSB) like you, I must run my memory full-speed with SPD settings only.
I therefore require big-$$ memory that has fast settings in SPD!
But most people have generic memory @ 400DDR, 166FSB and some dual-channel instability - the memory trick will help them.
Regards
ABit AB9 Pro
Intel Core 2 Duo E6420 @ 2.4GHz
2GB OCZ PC2-6400 Platinum XTC R2
ATI Radeon X1900XT 512MB
Enermax Liberty 620W
320GB/16MB WD, 150GB/16MB Raptor
Plextor PX-755SA DVD (SATA)
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dupfold
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29. June 2005 @ 01:26 |
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Still freezing - someone please help!
Cpu, graphics card, ram etc all running at stock speed so no problems there.
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Damager
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1. July 2005 @ 22:52 |
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TO the OGS
these are my memory timings 2.5-3-3-8
2500xp running at 3200xp (fsb 200mhz (by spd) with 2 x 256 megs ddr pc3200 ram in dual channel mode and runs stable
do i change the 8 to 6?
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dupfold
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2. July 2005 @ 03:01 |
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Damager - please start your own thread with your own problem as I'm in dyer need of help myself here and my problem does not relate yours (i.e memory probs due to overclocking)
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Damager
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2. July 2005 @ 04:04 |
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heh apologies dude, but in fact the reason i am in this thread is because i have the same problem, i actualy believe your problem is a memory one also.
The OGS gave a solution to initially your problem which is fact my problem also. Im well entitled to appear in this thread as im contributing with regards to directly the same problem, however i will make this my last reply and like yourself i hope my problem re "pc freezing when converting" is resolved asap
Damager :-)
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dupfold
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3. July 2005 @ 01:55 |
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the reason for your pc freezing is simple - your overclocking which can cause all sorts of problems - I am NOT overclocking and therefore any solution to your problem will have no effect on mine.
What is the point in me starting a thread if all it is going to do is allow other users to get there own non-simular problems solved and leave mine outstanding! But there is an easyway around this - START YOUR OWN!
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Damager
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3. July 2005 @ 02:36 |
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i probably should have pointed out that i have the same problem even when running at normal speed. At which point it can come down to a couple of other possible factors
bad ram modules
lack of hard drive space
Cheers
Damager :-)
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dupfold
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4. July 2005 @ 03:03 |
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drugs are bad mmmmk.
Ok, so, back to the POINT (my point, not Damager) in questions - can anyone help please. I have not overclocked, no bad ram modules and have plenty of h/d space (over 500GB)
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mickcon
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11. July 2005 @ 11:03 |
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I had the sme problem with my commy freezing, when using winavi and dvdsanta. I've got fans everywhere - hard drives, main box and put a fan on the chip of my graphics card. Still had same problem.
Took the side of, directed an electric fan onto all components and that did the job, which tells me that either the CPU is overheating or one of the cards in my computer is overheating. Hope this helps.
Mickcon
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dupfold
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12. July 2005 @ 02:26 |
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yeah I've been thinking that it has something to do with the temps but I've been watching them and all seems to be fine so I still can't understand it. My CPU temp rises to just over 50 with full load but I've been told this is ok?
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mickcon
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12. July 2005 @ 09:48 |
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why not give the fan a try, all i did was removed the side of the commy panel, stuck an electric fan infront of the motherboard and ran winavi, it worked for me, its only worth a try, i know its not a permanent solution, go for it,
Mickcon
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mickcon
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12. July 2005 @ 09:49 |
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why not give the fan a try, all i did was removed the side of the commy panel, stuck an electric fan infront of the motherboard and ran winavi, it worked for me, its only worth a try, i know its not a permanent solution, go for it, it maybe you memory that is over heating
Mickcon
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dupfold
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12. July 2005 @ 11:11 |
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yeah I'll defo give that a try. Been converting with TMPGEnc recenlty and all is well so far but I still need to use winavi for certain tasks.
How can I check the temp of my memory?
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mickcon
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12. July 2005 @ 13:07 |
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not sure on how to check if your memory is over heating but have pasted a link to over heating problems, also know that you can buy some sort of copper caseings to cool your memory, if you search the web you will find a solution
http://www.pcguide.com/ts/x/ggen02-c.html
mickon
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mickcon
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12. July 2005 @ 13:08 |
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let me know if the electric fan idea works
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