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Would this be legal?
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orrmate
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22. June 2005 @ 08:47 |
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Hi everyone,
Basically I have an idea, but i need your guys opinion on whether it's legal. My idea is to back up games as a service, providing that the customers MUST own the original to order a game. I would run this through a mailing list rather than through a website. Many people do not have the equipment or know how to back up their games, so i think this would be a good service to have. But my main question is, is this legal?
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jpp01uk
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22. June 2005 @ 09:00 |
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no, most people will lie about owning them
also, it has to be a backup of THE game you own, not a version of it
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gamer823
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22. June 2005 @ 11:41 |
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Well it is legal, has long as you have a disclaimer stating all this stuff. I know acouple of people who do it, yet jpp01uk is true, most people who order will not own the games, lol.
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22. June 2005 @ 12:19 |
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there is one way around that. Make then send you their original disc, then you can mail it back with the back up. Then there would be no question.
Otherwise you would have to have every game in the world there that someone would want a back up of.
And a disclaimer is a must, they should have to sign and online disclaimer before you even sell to them.
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orrmate
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22. June 2005 @ 12:36 |
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Is this the sort of thing we're talking about:
"If you are affiliated with any government, or ANTI-Piracy group or any other related group or were formally a worker of one you CANNOT enter this web site, cannot access any of its files and you cannot view any of the HTML files. All the objects on this site are PRIVATE property and are not meant for viewing or any other purposes other then bandwidth space.
If you enter this site you are not agreeing to these terms and you are violating code 431.322.12 of the Internet Privacy Act signed by Bill Clinton in 1995 and that means that you CANNOT threaten our ISP(s) or any person's or company storing these files, cannot prosecute any person's affiliated with this page which includes family, friends or individuals who run or enter this web site. By continuing to enter this site, you are agreeing to all terms as stated above.
Thank you for attention.
If you disagree with this term you must leave this site immediately."
I have also heard section 117 of US copyright laws works as well.
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Daniel_G
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22. June 2005 @ 19:08 |
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I've seen a banner add at the top of the forms that advertises exactly that which you want to start doing... i'd suggest you find the site for it, read their disclaimer and see how it's composed. Anyways, good luck !
[edit] i decided to just post the site's adress, just hope that's not against forum rules...but anyway, here goes:
http://www.ickysgifts.com/index.html they advertise ps2 and xbox backups..hope it's of sume use to you [/edit]
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 22. June 2005 @ 19:12
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22. June 2005 @ 19:51 |
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well are u gonna sell hem to the people? becasue if u are thats illegal
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orrmate
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23. June 2005 @ 10:03 |
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I have been told the customer service is bad on most sites of this type, so that is my aim, better customer service. Thankyou for all your advice, it has been extremely helpful. I've decided to proceed with my plan. I want the disc's to look proffesional, so i guess that means an epson r200 to print direct on the discs and some glossy paper for the covers.
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CivicTS
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24. June 2005 @ 06:01 |
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This will cost you a lot just for a disk.
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pitts3006
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24. June 2005 @ 06:24 |
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Just a heads up on the labels. The epson R200 is a great disc printer but make sure to buy the dvd's with a printable surface. I had many issues with disc's not playing after I attached a label. Make sure to get disc's with printable surface all the way to the hub also to make it that much closer to the real thing.
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24. June 2005 @ 14:39 |
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Don't forget p+p..
Also.. you will make no profit from it, and if you are then it is deemed illegal..
If you are thinking of running a business like this, I reccomend you move to Canada or something.
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orrmate
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25. June 2005 @ 05:06 |
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I am based in the UK. I'm too young and love my country too much i guess to move anywhere else at the moment.
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Daniel_G
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25. June 2005 @ 06:39 |
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An advance warning: the UK has VERY strict rules when it comes to copying video games and such, so i'd really make sure it's ok to distribute such backups, and make sure you have some legal counsil.
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orrmate
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25. June 2005 @ 09:53 |
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I guess this is gonna be the big problem, sony have already succesfully banned the sale of modchips over here. Perhaps i could lie and say i am based in Thailand or something???
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jpp01uk
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25. June 2005 @ 10:42 |
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how will that work? you need it to pay into a bank account etc, which is all traceable
suppose you could set up an off shore account
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Daniel_G
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25. June 2005 @ 10:53 |
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You could try passing it off as though you're based in the netherlands, the rules here aren't half as strict, and the only copying they seem to really target here is dvd's and audio cd's, and only if it's on a Very large scale...
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