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DVD R spindles and a few other questions
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wallen69
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28. June 2005 @ 00:11 |
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My first question is aimed at other UK members, my second and third for general members.
1. I keep looking at spindles of 25 or 50 blank DVD disks (and CD-R disks), but in the end do not buy them because of the problem of storing the disks once written. I have noticed that by the time you buy these 'cheap' spindle disks and then empty cases that you have spent at least as much and often more than buying better quality disks supplied with cases. Am I missing something, is there a UK supplier out there who sells spindle disks at a low enough cost to make them economical when you take into consideration the cost of storage?
2. I read here that the make of DVD R disk is important, but I have to say that I have used a variety of makes ranging from expensive Sony disks to cheap disks on unkown brand (Octron) and have not had a single coaster (unlike with CD-R disks). Do i just have a very unpicky drive or has this been shear luck?
3. So far I have only used DVD+R and DVD-R disks. Are DVD+RW or DVD-RW disk worth trying? I ask because in the past I have found CD-RW disks a waste of space as 90% of time they end up as coasters (first use)even when used as a simple data disk and are incompatible with just abouth anything other than the drive that wrote them. Is this the same with DVD RWs? I note that unlike CD-RW disks the DVD RW disks seem to have the same capacity as the R disks. Does this make them more compatible, with for example set top DVD players etc than CD-RWs have ever been with audio CD players?
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28. June 2005 @ 04:39 |
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1) I'm not in UK but anyway, most of us (I do anyway) store our burned cd's/dvd's in a binder. Some even use plastic dvd cases like what the new dvd movies come in.
2) You've been lucky. You will probably find that over time those cheap dvd's will not play or will freeze or pixelate.
3) The reasons people use dvd rw's (rewritable) is if they want to use the disc over and over or they are having problems and don't want to waste a burn once dvd just to find out they made a coaster. dvd rw's can be erased and burned tens to hundreds of times where as dvd+r's and dvd-r's are write/burn once.
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28. June 2005 @ 06:39 |
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words of wisdom from Mort81 :)
I use those photo album type binders,to store my dvds also.
And as for your question about dvdrw's.I have a dvd recorder standalone, and I record off my dvr onto dvdrw's,I use these everyday.Ive never had 1 problem with recording and erasing them.After every 3 or 4 quick erases I use the full erase,to avoid problems.
just my 2 cents
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28. June 2005 @ 11:31 |
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I'm in the UK so will have a go at answering....
Quote: 1. I keep looking at spindles of 25 or 50 blank DVD disks (and CD-R disks), but in the end do not buy them because of the problem of storing the disks once written. I have noticed that by the time you buy these 'cheap' spindle disks and then empty cases that you have spent at least as much and often more than buying better quality disks supplied with cases. Am I missing something, is there a UK supplier out there who sells spindle disks at a low enough cost to make them economical when you take into consideration the cost of storage?
- for CD-R's i have used literally 1000s of CD's over the years, many top brands and many nastily cheap brands/discs (however i've always had good results with crappy CD-R's). i still have most of the CD's i have burnt (good and bad quality ones) and have used more manufacturers than i don't know what. They only problems i have ever had with cheapy CD-R's has been the silver foil flakes off (the top surface) on some of the lower quality discs.
- as for DVD's i use Verbatim datalifeplus to excess, in tubs of 25. I store all my discs once burnt, in 240-capacity binders to save room and protect the discs. I buy all my stuff from www.svp.co.uk now, very efficient store, very very good returns service, reasonable prices for CD's and my Verbatim's. I even recently took the plunge and bought a tub of 100 genuine TY discs from them. On the subject of cases, i use loads of these (the 240capacity ones as i say) - http://svp.co.uk/acatalog/softcase.html - £4 each, incredibly cheap, and very well made; even when full they are decent enough quality.
Quote: 2. I read here that the make of DVD R disk is important, but I have to say that I have used a variety of makes ranging from expensive Sony disks to cheap disks on unkown brand (Octron) and have not had a single coaster (unlike with CD-R disks). Do i just have a very unpicky drive or has this been shear luck?
- I have used a few different makes of discs but am now a staunch Verbatim user. I keep reading good things about Sony disks (and a few other makes but i don't come across them , or come across them cheaply enough). For the sheer hassle that cheapy/inferior/utter rubbish discs cause, i have my own tribute to crap manufacturers/media - 2nd link in my signature, and also the first link. I for instance used untold 100s of BulkPaq Orange 8x discs, (i naively believed them to be Taiyo Yuden discs) and i'm constantly haunted by them as i have trouble re-copying from them and/or watching them.
Quote: 3. So far I have only used DVD+R and DVD-R disks. Are DVD+RW or DVD-RW disk worth trying? I ask because in the past I have found CD-RW disks a waste of space as 90% of time they end up as coasters (first use)even when used as a simple data disk and are incompatible with just abouth anything other than the drive that wrote them. Is this the same with DVD RWs? I note that unlike CD-RW disks the DVD RW disks seem to have the same capacity as the R disks. Does this make them more compatible, with for example set top DVD players etc than CD-RWs have ever been with audio CD players?
I personally stick to DVD-R discs but only cus that's what i started out with and i have no compatibility issues on any of my or other people's machines that i have access to. As for rewritable
DVD's i have only ever used a few and not many times as i rarely have a need for them. The few rewritables i have don't play on my main standalone DVD player but i imagine the player is just fussy with rewritable. Again no biggie for me as i don't use them as my Verbatim are 100% reliable.
Hope that helps...
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28. June 2005 @ 11:40 |
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I've heard that dvdrw's aren't compatible with some dvd players. I have 3 panasonic 5 disc changers and they are notoriously fussy with what they play(refuses to play +r)and they play in those players.
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wallen69
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28. June 2005 @ 23:59 |
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Thanks Creaky. That company does seem to have really good prices. I will order from them. I have so far used Sony disks for important home movies (ie the ones of my son as he reaches all the important little stages that I want to keep a record off). So far all have worked and play back mutiple times with no problems. I have used cheaper Octron disks (sold by Lidl) for other projects and for moving very large amounts of data between work and my home office. Had no coasters with them either, but starngely they do sometimes stop at chapter junctions with movie DVDs. Not sure if that is a disk quality issue or the fact that I use DVD+R Octron disks (as my office PC burner is DVD+R only (Dell)), while I use -R Sony disks as I use thes exclusively for video.
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29. June 2005 @ 00:01 |
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that's ok.
cheapy quality media still equals cheapy quality results/consistency :)
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