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Discussion thread for Wii Modchips
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zjat
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20. November 2007 @ 08:55 |
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But what if you want to know what chip is best (wiikey/D2Ckey)?
I have the possibility to get a Wii with Wiikey og D2Ckey preinstalled.
What should i choose and why? (presome that the wiikey model is the old Wii and the D2Ckey model is the new Wii)
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hhaider
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20. November 2007 @ 09:02 |
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hi, need some help here. i downloaded the wiikey 1.9g update, burned it, installed the first update and then accidentally ejected the disc while it was installing the second update. now my wii still works but none of my backups are being recognized. I had an error once when I put in an original, then the next time that worked. So anyway I think I basically interrupted the flash and now the chip has nothing on it. What can I do?
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aanfield
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20. November 2007 @ 09:34 |
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ive just got a new wii and ive been told it need a modchip with 42 wires is this right if so which 1 is it thanks
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zjat
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20. November 2007 @ 09:35 |
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Originally posted by aanfield:
ive just got a new wii and ive been told it need a modchip with 42 wires is this right if so which 1 is it thanks
I don't think its 42 wires.. But the chip is for sure the D2Ckey chip :)
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aanfield
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20. November 2007 @ 09:48 |
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are these any good m8
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zjat
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20. November 2007 @ 09:52 |
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Originally posted by aanfield:
are these any good m8
The D2Ckey chip is perfect... the best for the new models.
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hhaider
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20. November 2007 @ 09:55 |
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nevermind, I figured it out. used the 1.9b Emergency Recovery Disk from the wiikey website, then reflashed 1.9g - no problem now. I'm on a US Wii btw.
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aanfield
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20. November 2007 @ 10:07 |
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Originally posted by zjat:
Originally posted by aanfield:
are these any good m8
The D2Ckey chip is perfect... the best for the new models.
cheers m8 ive just got to get some1 to install it for me
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LBSurvivr
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20. November 2007 @ 16:11 |
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Hey everyone, wondering if anyone has had problems/bricked their Wii with the new update (3.1) and any backups of the new games. I've got a D2B NTSC Wii with a WiiKey and have backed up a bunch of games succesfully using Rawdump/NeroBurningRom, but now with Super Mario Galaxy it's asking me to update again and gives the warning about possibly bricking the Wii. I actually took a chance and tried to update but the update failed half-way through.
Previously, I took a chance when I backed-up Metroid Prime: Resurrection and updated to 3.0 and have had no problems, but I'm not sure if I'm willing to take the chance again. Will all new games that come out after mid-November require this update and has anyone bricked their Wii doing this? I would almost rather give up backing up games and buy a new Wii to just play new original games and use my old modded Wii just to play all my backups if it's going to be a problem.
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AJ56
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21. November 2007 @ 05:51 |
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Can someone please point me in the right direction. I went to the official sites and no luck. There are no places for a guy like me (From NYC, USA) to send thier consoles in to get modded. Looks like alot of sites stopped thier instilation programs. Can someone please help a brother out?
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sdragoon
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22. November 2007 @ 00:17 |
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i was wondering if anyone has any info on any 2nd gen d2c chips being developed? hopefully with less wires and easier updates.. i have installed the d2ckey but it will be a hassle to update/flash.. also the wiring is a little messy.. not easy to focus for such a long time.. staring at wires... haha..
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22. November 2007 @ 03:05 |
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Originally posted by sdragoon:
i was wondering if anyone has any info on any 2nd gen d2c chips being developed? hopefully with less wires and easier updates.. i have installed the d2ckey but it will be a hassle to update/flash.. also the wiring is a little messy.. not easy to focus for such a long time.. staring at wires... haha..
There is a 13 wire mod just about to be released it is EU based project but there are US sites that will carry it. There is an effort buy at least one other team that is looking at doing the same thing but cheaper.
Now InFeCtuS work with D2C WII
If I had a choice WiiKey or D2CKey pre-moded console, hands down I'd say D2CKey unless there were other things to consider like cost.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 29. November 2007 @ 16:12
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Kouji_San
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25. November 2007 @ 16:54 |
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That one has less wires and is udateable trough software? But what about the FlexPCB and D2Ckey, does the FlexPCB simply "click" onto the D2C chip and only needs soldering of two wires going to ground and +3.3 volt and optionally the region bridge?
And is the soldering of the 31 wires onto the firmware chip (D2Ckey) replaced with quicksoldering bridges between the FlexPCB and D2Ckey? so in fact there are only 2 (optinally 3) wires soldered onto the DVDdrive board?
IF all of this is true I guess the D2Ckey+FlexPCB is easier to install, because it has more room to solder bridges on the modchip and there is no need to try and solder the wires onto the tiny firmware chip itself.
One more question though: How updateable is the D2Ckey, I mean is it at all updateable like wiikey (same modteam aren't they?). Or does it need a (hehe) modchip on the modchip to update the D2Ckey :D
hehehehe lots of question, but I can't seem to find the answers on the net (google fails me). I only found one "photoshopped" picture of the FlexPCB... The D2Ckey and FlexPCB are quite ellusive with guides and information.
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Zvov
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29. November 2007 @ 05:54 |
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If i will put wiikey on Pal wii i will be able to run NTSC Games?
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29. November 2007 @ 13:58 |
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Originally posted by Kouji_San:
That one has less wires and is udateable trough software? But what about the FlexPCB and D2Ckey, does the FlexPCB simply "click" onto the D2C chip and only needs soldering of two wires going to ground and +3.3 volt and optionally the region bridge?
And is the soldering of the 31 wires onto the firmware chip (D2Ckey) replaced with quicksoldering bridges between the FlexPCB and D2Ckey? so in fact there are only 2 (optinally 3) wires soldered onto the DVDdrive board?
IF all of this is true I guess the D2Ckey+FlexPCB is easier to install, because it has more room to solder bridges on the modchip and there is no need to try and solder the wires onto the tiny firmware chip itself.
You're close to right on with the FlexPCB but missing a few key points.
1) You will need to solder the adapter (29 points) to the D2CKey but this will be much easier then soldering wires to the D2C chip from the Key.
2) There are ONLY two wires, NOT three, to solder to the console power and ground. The L option is part of the adapter if that is your third wire. Also make sure to use the region jumper for your console otherwise original discs may not play correctly. D2CKey says this is optional but really it is required.
3) After the adapter is soldered to the D2CKey the whole assembly snuggly fits over the consoles D2C chip. As long as you secure it properly it probably will work with out a hitch but if it jiggles off a bit your screwed. If done correctly though you shouldn?t have problems.
FlexPCB
Originally posted by Kouji_San:
One more question though: How updateable is the D2Ckey, I mean is it at all updateable like wiikey (same modteam aren't they?). Or does it need a (hehe) modchip on the modchip to update the D2Ckey :D
hehehehe lots of question, but I can't seem to find the answers on the net (google fails me). I only found one "photoshopped" picture of the FlexPCB... The D2Ckey and FlexPCB are quite ellusive with guides and information.
Probably not by the average user unless they can come up with a tool that will run off of a disc and has the encryption key on it. There are several contacts on the bottom of the board that look like they interface with a JTAG pogo pin programmer. I believe this is how they program them but they also could just put the chip directly into a socket type programmer as well before assembly.
Originally posted by Zvov:
If i will put wiikey on Pal wii i will be able to run NTSC Games?
You haven't even started to do your home work and if you even looked at any site selling these mods your question would be answered, well should be. With that in mind your question from there would be more so what do I need besides a mod chip to run out of region games? Now if you even looked around a little on this site alone you would find this nice thread which would answer all future questions, again we hope.
HOW TO PROTECT FROM REGION BRICK
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Brewgod23
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29. November 2007 @ 14:27 |
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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
1) You will need to solder the adapter (29 points) to the D2CKey but this will be much easier then soldering wires to the D2C chip from the Key.
2) There are ONLY two wires, NOT three, to solder to the console power and ground. The L option is part of the adapter if that is your third wire. Also make sure to use the region jumper for your console otherwise original discs may not play correctly. D2CKey says this is optional but really it is required.
3) After the adapter is soldered to the D2CKey the whole assembly snuggly fits over the consoles D2C chip. As long as you secure it properly it probably will work with out a hitch but if it jiggles off a bit your screwed. If done correctly though you shouldn?t have problems.
FlexPCB
Let me get this straight, I solder 29 points between the D2Ckey and the FlexPCB which should be a lot easier to do than to try and solder the small wires and the small D2C chip. Then I only need to solder 3 wires to the Wii board and press fit the flexPCB + D2CKey onto the D2C chip. Where is the FlexPCB sold? Has anybody tried this and works?
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29. November 2007 @ 16:20 |
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Did I stutter somewhere in my reply? Where do you get 3 wires from? As stated earlier in this thread goto the D2CKey website to find dealers as the moderator said it is prohibited to provide further information, NO ADVERTISING!!! in posts!!!
Does it work? No, that's why they are selling it... LOL
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Brewgod23
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29. November 2007 @ 17:00 |
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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
2) There are ONLY two wires, NOT three, to solder to the console power and ground. The L option is part of the adapter if that is your third wire. Also make sure to use the region jumper for your console otherwise original discs may not play correctly. D2CKey says this is optional but really it is required.
FlexPCB
I count three wires. The two that you mention and the optional region jumper. That you even state is required. That is three if you ask me.
Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
Does it work? No, that's why they are selling it... LOL
Are you being sarcastic? I asked if it works because I have seen other places that state that something works like a charm and it is BS. I just wanted to make sure that others have tried it and it is not something new and now proof of its workings. Now I will ask again, and you don't have to anwer if you don't want to. I would like to hear if others have got this concept working. Has anybody got this FlexPCB plus D2Ckey combination to work flawlessly?
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29. November 2007 @ 18:47 |
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I'm being very sarcastic and no one has used it yet becuase it is not fully released but I can tell you it will work, however nothing works flawlessly there are always problems. This will work much better then the original 31 wire system but like everything else there will be issues. It's too basic not to work and this should have been thier initial approach which I knew they would do when they released the D2CKey. Actually they will hopefully goto a socket type piggyback approach instead of the cutout one now which would be much better yet. The Infectus could do the same thing and the nice thing with Infectus is it is upgradable and can also be used in other consoles like the 360.
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Brewgod23
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29. November 2007 @ 18:55 |
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I see that the FlexPCB has numbers and letters on the sides where you would solder the D2Ckey. If I use the Infectous mod chip are the solder points the same?
And what about the cut outs that needed to be ground away to make contact with the D2Ckey? This no longer required?
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29. November 2007 @ 21:39 |
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Originally posted by Brewgod23:
I see that the FlexPCB has numbers and letters on the sides where you would solder the D2Ckey. If I use the Infectous mod chip are the solder points the same?
Now that is a very good question and the answer is no not exactly, I hadn't looked at it closely for that yet but after briefly checking it out if you invert the letter order, DATA lines, it might be able to be used. Again though I'd have to look at the Infectus closer and will sometime soon to build a cross-reference for everyone. Also Infectus maybe using some IRQ lines that D2CKey doesn't utilize so would there be connections for that. Even if there were not it is possible to picks those up from via's on the mainboard instead of directly to the D2C chip.
Originally posted by Brewgod23:
And what about the cut outs that needed to be ground away to make contact with the D2Ckey? This no longer required?
If I?m reading this right you are talking about the D2CKey being soldered into the FlexPCB adapter. The Infectus wouldn't be soldered into this cutout unfortunately; you would mount the Infectus to the EMI shield like the picture shows in my post further up in this thread and would solder your wires to the D2CKeys pads on the FlexPCB adapter. This would keep you from not solder bridging pins and you could remove the FlexPCB to disconnect the Infectus easily if need be, with exception to the IRQ lines possibly. You would still have 13 wires but with much less headaches.
The Infectus and the D2CKey approach their code circumvention in different manors so they would not be wire-for-wire interchangeable but it is definitely a good chance we could use the FlexPCB to make the Infectus better and easier. It might even be better to build/design another socket type adapter that could easily be used for both or most anything else, universal.
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Brewgod23
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29. November 2007 @ 22:20 |
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It sure looks like they are approaching the solderless design (DMS EZ) like the PS2 has. That would sure be nice to have.
[url=http://www.openwii.org/wiki/Installing_chips#Atmel_Atmega_Install/]Have you seen this site?
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Brewgod23
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29. November 2007 @ 22:21 |
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It sure looks like they are approaching the solderless design (DMS EZ) like the PS2 has. That would sure be nice to have.
Have you seen this site?
Does anybody know when this FlexPCB will be released for sale? I looked around to buy but sites only talk about it. I take it, it is not for sale yet.
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jpc1284
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3. December 2007 @ 12:43 |
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Well back to the main topic at hand. I got my Wii back in december 06. I am looking to get a mod chip but the reveiws are about as inconclusive as they come. Not to mention most of the reviews are old and the chips have been upgraded. Right now i am debating between the Wiinja Deluxe, WiiKey, or Cyclowiz. I prefer to avoid wires to the mobo chips so the wiikey and cyclowiz seem right up my ally. So which is the best. which has the best support. which is less likely to brick my wii. Also which is better with imports, and which is better with backups. i have done many modchip jobs on ps2 and ps1 so i am familir with wire and no wire procedure.
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farazfkm
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3. December 2007 @ 15:56 |
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hey i ordered from modchipstore.com on october the 23. on the 24th they said my item had been shipped. i've been reading the forums about modchipstore.com but they are all old and its been 2 months since i ordered it. i would like to know if anyone else had had this problem and what i should do. or do you think i might still recieve it?
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