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PLeitch
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2. December 2004 @ 07:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi Minion (and all others) you really do seem to be a star!! I have finally found a thread I think can help me, having read through all the threads I think I have a better understanding of what I need to do being fairly new into Video editing. I have had no problems with my setup capturing DV from a Panasonic NV37 (with DvIn enabled) via Firewire and mastering into Adobe Premiere 6.5, using the MPEG2 encoder and then using Nero Express for Menu?s/ chapters etc and writing to a NEC DVD writer as DVD-R (if anyone needs some info with this come back) ? am I missing something on quality using this route?
However for a wedding I videoed in June! I used 2 cameras and I am now trying to transfer analogue video from a Canon A10 Canonvision Hi8 (10-12 year old with 1 Video and Audio RCA o/p only and a Stero headphone jack o/p). I tried capturing a Video clip directly into a Premiere DV project, resetting the capture device settings for Analogue I/P - this kept crashing Premiere when using a composite lead into AVerDVD EZMaker WDM Video Capture Card, Audio Capture is direct into the SoundBlaster Audigy soundcard at 32,000 Hz, 16 bit Stereo, uncompressed using the single RCA connection. The rest of the Computer setup is an Evesham P4 2400 with 512Mb Ram, 2 x 120 Gb HD running XP home with SP1 + updates (excluding SP2). Nvidea Gforce4 FX4800 video card. AS per previous threads, Video Capture is to a different HD to OS and programs.
however trying to capture ANALOGUE IS PROOVING HORRENDOUS.
Decided to capture into a new Premiere project and managed to set up the capture device as an analogue source with project settings as follows:
Video for Windows
25FPS, PAL, preroll 5secs, T/C offset? 0, resolution 720 x 576, YUY2 , size 829440 bytes.
It correctly saw the video i/p device as: Aver EZMaker WDM Video Capture Card, VS: Video Composite, no recompression, using driver: Microsoft WDM Image Capture (Win32), version 5.1.2600.1106, and compressor Cinepak codec by Radius and pixel aspect ratio : D1/DV PAL (1.067) at 100%. Data rate is 1000, recompress selected and Maintain Data Rate [hope all this means something to you and helps]
Doing a test on a 10-15 sec clip it appears to capture it ok (I can see and hear the clip during capture). On importing the video clip file 2.56Mb .AVI movie I get the following message:
?Unable to open that file File is either damaged, an unsupported type, locked or in use by another application.
I have tried to open it in Windows Media Player version 8.00.00.4487 and get a similar WMP error message:
?Class Factory cannot supply requested class? ? check M?soft web site. This led me to the 80040111 Error message
Have tried capturing about 3 times always with same result.
I followed some links on the Windows Media Newsgroup which suggested
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Error generally occurs when you have the wrong codecs installed.
Download and use GSpot (http://tinyurl.com/328cp) to check the AVI file
Have down-loaded and run this, it reported the file was a correct .AVI file format, no codecs needed for video or audio is no compression (having read all the threads now I wouldn?t expect any as avi?s are non compressed files ? I am learning!) but when using the Direct Show Render option to test the file it was unable to open the file (can?t remember the exact message but will check again today)
Have you come across this before?
Following your threads, from last year, am I better trying to or can I Capture to AVI using Huffyuv and the equipment I have and import this AVI into any Premiere project to edit and then encode and make my DVD as before?

I have managed to capture video using Mediamaker s'ware that came with the capture card, but this is in MPEG1, MPEG2, DVD or DVD Video format options. And no options I can see to really edit (looks OK to put straight onto DVD but haven?t tried yet).
When importing MPEG2 files I need to render the clips when imported as a file into Premiere, this takes ages and tends to crash out unless in tiny pieces) Running the clips to edit in/out points is very jumpy and I presume this is because its compressed?. Am I also right in my understanding that the imported MPEG2 clips in Premiere which are then encoded into MPEG2 for DVD, will it try to recompress the already compressed MPEG2 clips and therefore loose more definition?

Questions ? Am I on the right tracks?
What am I doing wrong?
Am I using the wrong settings?
What should I be doing next?

Sorry for the length of message, but any help I can get would be appreciated.
Thanks in anticipation.
PAL


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2. December 2004 @ 07:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
SierraB: You can not Set the bitrate for Makeing DVD"s above 9800kbs Total for Both Audio and Video because that is the Most that the DVD stabdard will support....
You should be Putting more than One Hour on a DVD as it seems Like a Bit of a waste to me as I can get anywere from 3 Hours to up to 6+ hours depending on the DVD Format I use.....


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8. December 2004 @ 11:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi I need help......... Tansfering VHS to DVD. I have a Dell 4600 with the full version Nero 6 and DVD Shrink. Pc has Nvidia GeForce FX 5200. Alos have video and Audio codecs, Legacy audio and video devices, and Sound Max digital audio. I run Windows Xp and have DirectX 9.0c. Cinepak Codek by Radius. Not sure what kind of info you all need but I am trying to copy VHS tapes to DVD using my PC. How do I go about doing this? Also how do I plug this device into my system in order to accomplish this? I've mastered burning DVD's to DVD's but now I need to get this. Any advice and help out there for me????? Thanks
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8. December 2004 @ 12:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What type of capture device do you have???

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8. December 2004 @ 13:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I am not sure if this is was what you wanted but under my harware devices it says Legacy Video Capture device. Is this what you want? If not where else do I find this info?
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8. December 2004 @ 15:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Minion or others. Anyone know anythoing about the Dazzle 150? Having problems getting dvd quality video rrecorded. Works fine in lower quality but no picture in DVD mode. Will this capture devise work with other software than pinnacle?
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9. December 2004 @ 11:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
kirktank: Your Going to have to Find out a Little more about your System than you know now before you are going to be able to do anything....

Contact your Computer Manufacturer and Find out what Type of Capture device Came with your Computer If any at all....You should have Known this before you even Bought the Computer.....

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9. December 2004 @ 20:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Need Help with CCE Basic Settings

I am in the process of converting many years of home VHS video to DVD. My video output quality (on DVD when played on a tabletop DVD player hooked to a Sony TV) has been less than desirable - specifically jerky motion. I suspect the problem lies in the CCE Basic encoder settings. I have read the CCE manual and CCE guidelines posted the Doom9 forum and adjusting the settings, as they recommend, and this has helped somewhat.

In CCE Basic I output to MPEG-2, aspect ration 4.3, and I have tried 2 pass VBR with the minimum frame rate set to 4000, Avg set to 6000 and max 9000. Output is jerky on fast scenes or camera pans. Less jerky output results when moving CCE Basic Quality slider to Complex, and using 2 pass CBR instead with the frame rate set to 9,500. However the picture is not as rich and is noticeably grainy. Regardless of the settings, there is some rainbowing in the DVD output. The original VHS tapes and the captured AVI files show virtually none of these negative aspects when viewed.

Any suggestions for CCE Basic settings specific to encoding VHS home videos to high quality MPEG-2 will be greatly appreciated.

Background data:

1. VHS videos captured via a Canopus ADVC100 box and WinDV.

2. Captured video (avi files) edited with Microsoft's MovieMaker 2.1 and saved as DV-AVI (NTSC).

3. Encoding done with CCE Basic trial version.

4. Authoring to DVD with TMPGEnc DVD Author 1.6 (trial).

5. My system: Dell 1.5 GHz/256 Mb RDRam, 120 Gb 7200 RPM 8mb Buffer hard drive dedicated to video files only.

Thanks everyone.
JoeP
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10. December 2004 @ 06:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm using InterVideo WinDVR 3.0 to capture some home video from my VHS. After doing my menu's and Chapters with DVDLab with my Benq external DVD burner it looks that the video is not like the vhs tape. It's not what I expected, the image freezes for a second each 5 or 10 seconds of the DVD-R.

I actually did 2 DVD-R's

The 1st one: I put the setup record quality at BETTER
this one looked ok

The 2nd one: I put the setup record as CUSTOMIZED NTSC DVD this is the one I had the freezing.

What's the difference and how can I have the best quality possible by doing my transfer and editing.

Please help.
Thanks
Joel79
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10. December 2004 @ 12:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
joep42: I believe what you are Seeing are interlace artifacts Possibly from a Reverced Field Order...

You will notice it a Lot on wide Panning Shots and it Looks allmost like there are Frames Missing or something.....

There are 2 Ways to Fix this problem ,One would be to select the Correct Field order when encodeing in CCE Basic, if it has such a setting..(Usually Bottom Field First for DV AVI files)

The other Solution would be to De-interlace when encodeing (If CCE Basic has such a Setting)....

I use "CCE SP 2.67" for all of my encodeing and if it is set up properly it is the Best encoder there is for Fast High Quality encodeing to Mpeg-2....
When useing CCE SP to encode I can Fit 2 Full movies on a DVD-R in Full D1 format or up to 4 or 5 movies on a Single DVD in SIF/CIF format......

I would suggest you Download the Newest Experimental version of "Virtual-Dub" and use it to De-interlace your DV AVI files and Frameserve them to CCE Basic..
You can also use the new Virtual-Dub to edit your DV AVI files and it"s "Direct Stream Copy" rendering is Much faster than Movie Maker and Probably produces better quality because there is no Re-Compression but there is No Need to render when you can Frameserve...

Cheers

joel79: You should maybe try the Capture Method I use with WinDVR 3.0?? It takes Longer than the method you use but it also produces Much better quality but you will also need a Faster Computer than Before so Hopefully yours is at least a 2.5ghz P-4.....

What My method entails is I use WinDVR 3.o and make a Custom capture profile useing the Highest Quality settings Possible with the Highest Possible bitrate and after Captureing the Files are Huge but have a Very Good Quality so I then use a High Quality Standalone Mpeg Encoder to re-encode the Captured File useing a Lower bitrate so that the Whole movie fits on a Single DVD-R.....

These are the Capture setting I use:
#1)Under the "General" Tab select Mpeg-2 and give your Profile a Name and Click "Apply"....

#2) Under the "System" tab I select "Mpeg-2 Genaric" and set the Max file size to "50,000mb" and then click "Apply"...

#3)Then go to the "Video" Tab and set the Video Format to "Ntsc" and set the Resolution to "720+480" and then set the "Bitrate" to "20,000kbs" and then click "Apply" and then click the "Advanced" button and set both "Motion Vectors" to "32" and then click "OK"....

#4)Now go to the "Audio" tab and if your Version supports it select the "Dolby Digital" audio format and set the Sample Frequency to "48.0Khz" if you don"t have the Dolby digital Option then select "Mpeg-1 Layer 2" ,Then click the "Advanced" button and select "384kbs" as the bitrate and set it to "Stereo" and then click "OK"...

Now Use this Profile to Capture your Movie and after Captureing you will have a Huge Mpeg-2 file but the Quality will be Great(If your PC can Keep up when captureing at this Quality) But the File will be Far too big to author to DVD like this So then what I do is do any editing with "Womble Mpeg Video Wizard 2003" or "Womble Mpeg2VCR" and render my edited File as a Seperate AC3 audio file and a M2V Video file and I re-encode the M2V Video file useing a High Quality encoder like "CinemaCraft encoder" or "Tmpgenc Xpress" or the "MainConcept Encoder" so that the File is small enough to fit on a DVD and then Just author the Dolby AC3 audio file with the Re-encoded M2V file to DVD useing a DVD Authoring Program Like "DVDLab Pro" ......Cheers






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joep42
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11. December 2004 @ 23:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks Minion - both suggestions helped. CCE Basic had an "Output Top Field First Stream" checkbox (in the Advance menu) and I unchecked it. It also has a "Deinterlace" checkbox and I enabled that.

Now finding the right combination in the bit rates and Complexity setting should further improve the quality.

My question now which is better? 2 pass CBR set to 9,500 with or without System Stream enabled - OR - 2 pass VBR with the VBR Min set to 1000 or less, Avg set to 3K or 4K and Max set to 9,600? File size is not a major concern.

Any other CCE Basic Video settings you can demystify will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks again - JoeP
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12. December 2004 @ 13:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
joep42: Hi ,The bitrate you use to encode to Mpeg2 should be determined by the Length of your Movie so that the Movie will be the Perfect size so it Fits on a Single DVD...
It is a Big waste to Just use the Most bitrate you can and end up putting a Movie on Two or more DVD-R"s especially when you can Just as easilly Fit the whole movie on a Single DVD-R....

What I use is a "Bitrate Calculator" Called "PowerBit" which tells me the Average bitrate I should use Based on the Length of my Movie so it Fits on a DVD....

I usually use a 2 Pass VBR with a Maximum bitrate of 8000kbs and a Minimum bitrate of 2000kbs and set the Average bitrate to the bitrate I get from useing the bitrate Calculator....

For instance if your Movie is 90 minutes long then you would use an Average Video bitrate of 6575kbs and a Audio bitrate of 192kbs....

If your Movie is 2 Hours Long you would use a Video bitrate of 4875kbs and 192kbs for the audio..

If your Movie is 2.5 hours Long you would use 3875kbs for the Video and 192kbs for the audio...

If your Movie is 3 Hours Long you would use an average bitrate of 3200kbs for Video and 192kbs for the audio.....

If you use these Bitrates to encode your Movies based on there Lengths then your Movies should Fit perfectly when authoring them to DVD....

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Wow - learned something new again. My home video's consist of many and mostly 10 to 20 minutes events of holidays and family affairs. Nevertheless, now I understand the need to plan ahead to utilize the space effectively on the DVD.
Thanks again - JoeP
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For the past year, have been using windv with my advc 100 for capturing from vhs and camcorder, and using TMPGEnc plus for encoding (vbr 4000-6000-8000). Also read a little in this post on windvr, TMPGEnc express, and others. Just wondering, is there any reason for me to convert or upgrade to any of these newer programs or versions? What are the newer features I may be missing out on?

I am a little concerned about how the audio may be encoded in my current process. I am encoding audio and video into one mpeg file, rather than separate. I guess you could say I want to make sure I am getting optimal compression with good quality in my videos.

Let me know what other questions you might have on my setup.

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29. December 2004 @ 17:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Minion - have you used double layer DVD's for recording movies?
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30. December 2004 @ 11:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi ,No I haven"t used them because they are Way too Expensive at between $10 to $15 each were I live Compared to about 0.25c each for DVD5"s and I have never had a problem fitting a DVD9 on to a DVD5....

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I have used +R DL media with my Sony DRU-700A burner (which I have just replaced with the newer DRU-710A). Using DL media allows me to copy a 2+ hour VHS tape to DVD with little or no video compression (I do, however, compress the 2-channel audio with Dolby AC-3 encoding).

Getting reliable media seems to be a problem. First I tried a 3-pack of PIODATA media, and two out of 3 were bad. At $10 per DVD, this was an expensive lesson. Then I found on the Sony web site (sony.storagesupport.com) that as of 5/14/04 Sony was only recommending Verbatim DVD+R DL media. So I tried three Verbatim DVDs, and all three burned OK and could be viewed with my Sony DVD player. One of the DVDs appeared to have a "flakey" spot when it was being viewed, but after a slight pause the player continued OK. (I think the pause was too long to be caused by switching to the 2nd layer.)

Anyway, I'm hoping the price of DL comes down, and also that more info on its reliability becomes available.
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Hi Minion, I'm a new reader and I'm really impressed by the thoroughness of your replies. I'm glad I found this forum. I'm going to quote a message from page 4 of the thread which relates to my question.


Machie wrote:
"...I also have some movies that have poor video quality & believe it may be caused by Macrovision. The video is good VCR to TV, but poor VCR to computer. The picture has a white, unstable line at the top of the screen, & the picture jumps intermittently. Would this be caused by Macrovision? I am using the ATI TV application, composite connection to view it...

I have the same problem, same symptoms, perfect playback to TV, although I'm using the analog input. The main difference here is that I'm using a GOVIDEO dual deck DDV9550, which has built-in Macrovision removal. And the tapes I'm recording are home movies, recorded fresh (like twelve years ago) on blank, consumer VHS tapes at "SP."

So perhaps the macrovision removal on the deck isn't perfect enough to withstand the finicky-ness of digital media...but why would it matter on a home video?

If you have any idea, I'd be fascinated to hear it. Regardless, however, you mentioned a patch for the ATI All-In-Wonder capture that sometimes works and sometimes doesn't. I'm more than willing to freshly reinstall my entire system to give it a fair shot, because this is sort of important to me. If you can remember (or are just a better internet researcher than I am), could you post a link to this patch? It would be very much appreciated.

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If these VHS tapes are Home recorded ones then there is No chance there is any copy protection at all so I"m sure that is not Your Problem....

There will usually allways Be a Line of Distortion on the Bottom of the Captured Video because this is from were the Head on the Tape Deck makes contact with the Tape , It is allways there but you can not see it on your TV set because your TV set has a 10% to 15% Overscan area arround the whole Frame that Cuts off any artifacts arround the edges.....

Maybe you will have better results if you used a Different Capture program like Maybe WinDVR 3.0 or some other Program....
What type of Capture device are you useing ?? I know it is probably ATI VGA/Capture combo like an All in wonder but which one useing which capture Chipset??

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I have the All-In-Wonder 9000 Pro - not sure if this will tell you what chipset it's using.

I have since noticed a tame version of the same thing happening on one professional tape I have. But as you said, there is no reason this would be related to macrovision. I have also unwittingly tried a somewhat scary "patch" which replaced all of my drivers. Everything still works, but nothing has changed.

Oh, and I'm aware of what you're talking about on the bottom - not the static I mean...

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I have AMD1.8Ghz PC with windows 2000 and via KT333CF-8235 chipset with on board sound controller.

Recently I added Philips PCI capture SAA 7130 and I can see the cable TV perfectly with sound.

I captured some AVI files using tv capture and also Nero vision express(mpeg?). But when I re-play AVI or preview Nero capture files I can not hear any audio.

I tried verifying with GSpot for AVI files. GSpot says audio track is present with pci encoding and it shd play OK. I also tried VSO divxtodvd tool to modify. During rendering with AVI or Nero files, this tool diagnostic data says it has audio stream but I can not hear a thing. In re-play or burnt disk.

Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks.

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Minion, anyone, I assembled several home video clips, edited, added titles and transitions - all in MovieMaker2 and saved as a DV-AVI(NTSC) file. Everything is fine. However, I noticed an error in my titles (I put one in the wrong place) and want to correct it without having to do the whole process of importing and sequencing the clips, and doing the titles and transitions over, plus spend the system time (3 hours) to save it all again. Is there a quicker way to edit the MM2 DV-AVI output file without losing any quality?

Still learning. Thanks.
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Hello and seasons greetings to all.

i read the 20 or so pages on this thread last night and like all the newbies i am most impressed, especially with god, whoops i mean minion..

i have a challenge for the top brains, something that you must promise you will laugh quietly about...

myself and several other friends live in this other world..

its one that still has bx motherboards, less than 1ghz processors and the sad owners of these antiques want to feel useful and creative like the other guys and gals here on thise thread..

sooo .. we were wondering if you could take pity on us poverty ridden (child laden) folk and stretch your imaginations and creative minds so we might be able to show off to some of our friends????

i have an asus p2bl motherboard with i gig of memory, a celeron 667 overclocked to 791 or there-abouts with a 4 meg video card a hp cd writer and a brand new lite on dvd burner.

i just bought the family a cheap samsung video camera (hi8) and would really love to be able to produce some low level dvd's to send to nanna in south australia etc....

now come on guys get up off the floor and have some respect... you can do damage laughing that hard..

so far i have managed to get some video into the computer via one of two cards i had laying around for a while. one is an aver media mv-300 (bt866 chipset) and the other is a tv/fm radio capture card from a mob called medialand. (it has a bt878 chipset).

now i have to tell you that after not going to bed at all last night.. and i am still sitting here... i am quite pleased with the actual quality of the very small AVI files i eventually got on to the computer (windows me) stop it... i like me..and the operating system..

most of my time was taken up reading this and other posts relating to vhs and dvd's in general. a large chunk of time was wasted trying to find drivers to make these confounded cards work in me.

none of the commercial software would work. the latest just doesnt recognise hi8 type outputs via the svideo cable (i cant even think about video to digital adaptors etc) . the commercial stuff was also too much of a burden on the fralllll system.

but hey... i eventually got some video on to the hard disk via a freeware package called "Capture Studio 4.05 Professional".

the quality was more than satisfying to my eyes and my 4 year old daughter wants to know when she can have a cd to put in her computer....

so guys.. and gals.. what do you say??? can you come up with some lightweight software that will help me get this video material onto dvd's or cd's that i can distribute to friends and family??

i would really love to be able to get my teenage kids interested in this and then expand their photographic talents.

have i said enough to get the general idea explained.. or should i post a copy of my weekly pay cheque minus living expenses.... :)

please let me know if you can assist. its going to be some time before my friends and i can afford the kind of machines you guys are running.

ps. the dvd burner was a xmas present. without it i would not even consider getting on this site to ask for help.


it burns dvd's perfectly with my meagre rig.


over to you lot.

cmon wipe the tears out of your eyes and stand up straight.. if you havnt already... you will have kids one day...then you will understand.


WILL THE MASTER EVEN CONSIDER THIS ONE?????
 
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