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phit03
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16. September 2005 @ 10:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Media Information
Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID MXL RG01
Format Capacity Blank Disc
Free Blocks 411107328
Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.71GB)
Book Type DVD-R
Media Type DVD-R
Manufacturer Rated Speed 2.0x 2770KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.0x 2770KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 1.0x 1385KBps
Write Strategy Speed 1.0x 1385KBps
Data area starting sector 30000h
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1

Complete Media Code
00000000 00 6A 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 50 00 02 58 0E 11 .j...@....P..X..
00000010 98 99 80 00 03 4D 58 4C 20 52 47 00 04 30 31 00 .....MXL RG..01.
00000020 00 00 00 00 05 88 80 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 ................

I've just bought 200 of these from UKDVDR and have had a 100% failure rate so far. I sent some back to UKDVDR for testing and they said they are OK and I would probably need to update my firmware. As far as I'm aware, both my burners (see below) are at the latest versions.
Has anyone else had problems with these. I'm not expecting perfection at the price I paid but I find it hard to believe that both burners are incompatible.

LG GSA-4082B F/W A209
Pioneer DVD-106D F/W 1.07
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16. September 2005 @ 11:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
 I have never heard of RiVision discs but I know that MXL RG01 is Maxell manufactured and is top notch media. Maybe what you bought are fakes ...

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13. September 2006 @ 06:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi phit03

I used to burn with RiVision discs a few year sback, they were basically cheap Ritek G04's that were good enough but i avoid Ritek in general now.

I've used UKdvdr and to be honest my last batch of Ridisc G05 DVD's were very inconsistant in quality and compatibility.

Drives don't change - DVD media does.

Why upgrade the firmwire all the time - just make reliable disks.

I am now in the market for a more reliable and affordable DVD brand and supplier.

You can't help but wonder about what tests these DVD suppliers are doing before selling these disks on to buyers.

I've learned my lesson, media are always chainging but dvd suppliers could and should go a long way to helping people make the right choices too, and must try to avoid labelling ever disk/dye under the sun "very compatible" when this just doesn't seem to be the case.

Good luck any.

Taiyo Yuden TG02 seems to be my new G04 - works like a charm (For now)
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13. September 2006 @ 06:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The media can't change after manufacturing, but the drives can. MID codes will change if a media manufacturer switches to a different dye, a different speed rating, a different process, a different master stamper, or for other reasons. That new code has to be recognized the drives in the field if the media are to work properly (unless the slower, default settings happen to work.) In this case it sounds as though the updates to the LG and Pioneer drives (both "old" models in computer terms even though both are very good drives) did not include this MID code; so the discs don't work.

There is nothing wrong with the drives, and probably nothing wrong with the discs. They just will not work together until firmware is written that supports this MID code. When drives were priced at $200 each, there were engineering teams that kept older drives up to date. No one pays that much for a drive any more, and firmware support fades away three months after a drive hits the market. The only choices left are finding discs that happen to be compatible with older drives or buy new drives. The drive manufacturers prefer the latter.
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13. September 2006 @ 08:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
When you can purchase a brand new LiteOn drive for under $30 including shipping, who cares if you have to buy drives several times a year . .

I still swear by my BenQ drives even though firmware support appears to be disappearing . .

Victor

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13. September 2006 @ 08:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ummmmmmm....did you notice the original thread is dated 2005?

The rated write speed for this code is 2X. Write strategy speed is 1.0X. Forgive me for my ignorance, but I was under the impression that the newer drives are not able to write at the lower speeds? The original poster had an 8x Lg and a Pioneer that was capable of writing 12X. Isn't that the reason why he/she was having problems with the media?

Catfreak was probably right about the fake media. According to DigitalFaqs, InfoSmart put out fakes under that code:

http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 13. September 2006 @ 08:34

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