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COPYNG XBOX GAMES TO DVD + R MEDIA HELP PLEASE!!!!!
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nino69
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20. September 2005 @ 02:04 |
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hi all im new to a.d i would like to burn xbox iso's to dvd + r media since my dvd burner is only capable of burning dvd + r disks. I've read on various other forums that xbox games should be burnt with dvd - r media. Some say that it depends on your mod chip, however i suspect it has to do only with the dvd reader equipped on the xbox. Anyone with information regarding this, please help i'd really appreciate it!!!.
Any advice welcome -
NINO~
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I've established that my xbox CAN read dvd+r disks since i've played a dvd burnt on dvd + r media. The movie dvd works fine, will it be the same with burnt games?
I wont buy the mod chip till i've established that i can indeed burn dvd+r disks with my burner, and have them played
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20. September 2005 @ 12:48 |
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I have used DVD+R disc on my Xbox system. Tho I dont have many cause I uasly rip them to my 300gig hard drive. But I have used them.
All you can do is test 1 and see if it works and if it doesnt work then maybe try changing the booktype from DVD+R to DVD-ROM which you can do in DVD Decryptor. Or in Nero.
And just so you know this is an Xbox question and should have been placed in the Xbox discusion forum. But dont multi post. Maybe a mod will place it there.
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20. September 2005 @ 16:35 |
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I'll try to get this moved to the X Box section.
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20. September 2005 @ 18:14 |
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Moved :)
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Maniax
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20. September 2005 @ 20:34 |
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I think it really doesnt matter if its DVD+R or DVD-R i have games both + and - and they all work fine. So i really think it doesnt matter what format it is.
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Bohefus
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21. September 2005 @ 16:10 |
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I've read on various other forums that xbox games should be burnt with dvd - r media. Some say that it depends on your mod chip, however i suspect it has to do only with the dvd reader equipped on the xbox. Anyone with information regarding this, please help i'd really appreciate it!!!.
It has nothing to do with the modchip. It's mainly dependant on the dvd writer drive on your computer. Most drives will automatically change the booktype setting from DVD+R to DVDROM when burning a DVD+R disc to give it greater compatibility with dvd players. Some drives don't do this but you can use utilities or the burning software to change the booktype for you as it burns.
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21. September 2005 @ 16:25 |
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Most drives will automatically change the booktype setting from DVD+R to DVDROM when burning a DVD+R disc
I disagree with that statment.
Your burrner dosent automaticly burn a DVD+R disc as DVD-ROM. The only way is to set up the program your using to burn to do it that way or you use a utility to do it.
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Bohefus
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21. September 2005 @ 16:46 |
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Your burrner dosent automaticly burn a DVD+R disc as DVD-ROM. The only way is to set up the program your using to burn to do it that way or you use a utility to do it.
That's not true
My first drive was an HP +r 2.4X drive that I used to burn numerous movies and xbox games. Never had any problems with my xbox or other standalone dvd players reading the discs. Never went into any of the settings or used a utilty to change the booktype setting. All the discs worked and I was a happy camper.
Wanted a faster drive so I bought a Plextor 12X Dvd+/-R drive and started burning +r discs. None of them would work, burned good media at very slow speeds and still no go. Would burn -R discs and the discs worked fine. I eventually found out that if I used a certain version of Nero and changed the booktype setting to dvdrom that the discs would work.
How do you suppose that my first HP+R drive's discs worked if it didn't automatically change the booktype setting?
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21. September 2005 @ 17:03 |
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either you had a program changing it or the burrner just burnt better copies or your media was better. I bet if you took an old backup and looked it would be a DVD+R burn. All you have to do is look at a DVD that your old burrner burnt and open it in Nero and check the disc information and see.
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Bohefus
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21. September 2005 @ 17:40 |
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either you had a program changing it or the burrner just burnt better copies or your media was better.
I was burning the exact same discs the exact same way with the exact same software and I was not using a utility or a version of Nero that had the option of changing the booktype. I had to find a new(at the time) version of Nero with this ability to get the +R discs to work on the new drive. I changed absolutely nothing in the way I burned the discs. After installing the new drive, no +R discs would work. How do you explain that without going into your know everything "you must of used better media or had a program changing it" crap
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21. September 2005 @ 17:45 |
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Did you put in a disc that you burned with your old burrner and read the disc info which will tell you if it was burnt as a DVD-ROM or DVD+R do it and be honest at what it says. I bet it says DVD+R
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Bohefus
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21. September 2005 @ 18:10 |
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Did you put in a disc that you burned with your old burrner and read the disc info which will tell you if it was burnt as a DVD-ROM or DVD+R do it and be honest at what it says. I bet it says DVD+R
of course it's going to say DVD+R, changing the booktype isn't going to change the media. You be honest, take a +R or a -R and burn a disc, change the booktype to dvdrom and use Nero's disc info tool and see what it says after. It's still going to say DVD+R or DVD-R no matter what.
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21. September 2005 @ 19:04 |
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Your wrong the booktype after changing it from DVD+R to DVD-ROM will be DVD-ROM after the burn. Nero will list the booktype as DVD-ROM not DVD+R cause you changed it to DVD-ROM
Also you cant take a DVD-R disk and change it to a DVD-ROM disc.
I have serched and a few DVD burrners do booktype as DVD-ROM by default. But most burner dont automaticly do it you have to do it by setting the burrning program to do it or have a Utility to do it.
So to state that most burrners do DVD-ROM by default is false.
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Bohefus
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21. September 2005 @ 19:37 |
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Your wrong the booktype after changing it from DVD+R to DVD-ROM will be DVD-ROM after the burn.
Did you burn a DVD+R and change the booktype to dvdrom and then check the cd info within Nero? I didn't think so
Your having a hard enough time just spelling correctly and making your sentences make sense, I guess I can't expect you to actually double check your beliefs.
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21. September 2005 @ 19:41 |
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All of my DVD+R media that I have changed to DVD-ROM say DVD-ROM as booktype in nero disc info after the burn. You sure do get defensive dont you. Now you have to stoop to saying crap about how a person types on the forum and making sense.
My sentences make complete sense.
If you have correctly booktyped your DVD+R disc as a DVD-ROM disc, then nero will give the booktype as DVD-ROM in the disc info.
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nino69
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21. September 2005 @ 21:01 |
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so far this is what i've ascertained from the replies (much appreciated, all):
changing the booktype from Nero resolves the problem of the xbox dvd player not recognizing DVD+R media (or dvd-, for that matter).
others have said that the speed at which it is burned matters. What is the ideal speed? any consensus?
I could go about this by trial and error, but that would mean wasting a bunch of blank DVD+R disks. I'm afraid of using DVD+RW because it has a different readability in many drives (inferior owing to the RW dye). If i was to do the trial and error thing i would therefore use DVD+R, = waste so i'd rather not go there.
What is the systematic approach? Does dvd+/- r work regardless? And what of speed?
One last question, what version of Nero supports changing the booktype?
Once again thanks ALOT to everyone I really appreciate this. If we can ascertain the specifics of what would and would not work maybe the mods can sticky it because so far ALL the back up guides fail to mention what works and what doesnt (where media is concerned) and i think its an issue worth addressign because the cost of the dvd writer is significant and there are many people out there with out DVD+R writers likewise many without DVD-R writers.
NINO
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21. September 2005 @ 21:50 |
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The best compatibility format for backup's is DVD-R.
That dosent mean DVD+R are bad and wont work. It all depends on the Drive you have in your Xbox.
All systems are diffrent (Xbox, PS2, GC, Home DVD Players etc) on what format DVD it will except. Some will only read DVD-R some will read both DVD-R and DVD+R. It just depends on the format it likes best.
So if your burrner can burn DVD-R media then id start there. Make sure it is good quility media.
Now with DVD+R media. I can burn DVD+R media and it will play on pretty much all my systems I have, but that dosent mean you would have the same outcome.
If you burn with DVD+R media and you have problems getting your system to read it then try to booktype the DVD+R media to DVD-ROM for better compatibility. This does not mean it will fix the compatibility issue. it could work or not.
Always burn your backups at 4x or less never faster.
My nero version is 6.6.0.6 even tho the newest version is 6.6.0.16 which I havent downloaded yet.
Anyway that is my opinion about it.
More information. You need to download a program like quix to make an xISO for your Xbox iso's to be burnt on backup DVDs.
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nino69
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22. September 2005 @ 00:47 |
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if i've downloaded the xbox iso's that come in a regular .iso extension, is it necessary to use a program like quix? thanks !!
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stupid question i checked out quix and i figured it out ~
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Bohefus
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22. September 2005 @ 06:49 |
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I know the Booktype is changed from DVD+R to dvdrom. The disc info still shows the DVD+R disc as a DVD+R disc with a dvdrom booktype setting.Quote:
You sure do get defensive dont you.
I didn't appreciate you basically calling me a liar with this statement.Quote:
I disagree with that statment.
Your burrner dosent automaticly burn a DVD+R disc as DVD-ROM. The only way is to set up the program your using to burn to do it that way or you use a utility to do it.
And yes, alot of drives do automatically change the booktype to dvdrom.
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Bohefus
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22. September 2005 @ 06:57 |
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Did you put in a disc that you burned with your old burrner and read the disc info which will tell you if it was burnt as a DVD-ROM or DVD+R do it and be honest at what it says. I bet it says DVD+R
Still shows the disc as a DVD+R with booktype setting as dvdrom.
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22. September 2005 @ 11:17 |
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I was man enough to correct myself after I serched about this.
Saying a few DVD Burrners change the booktyping automaticly but not very much do.
So most will have to do it threw the burrning program or threw a utility.
As of nero not listing the Booktype change mine does. I never once said the disc would change I said the booktype would change and be listed as DVD-ROM
Also i wanted to say sorry to the newbies if they are getting confused about all this information(arguing) going on here. I just wanted to state for your benifit that you could change the booktyping to help the compatibilty of the DVD+R disc. I also thought it was a little missleading telling you that most DVD burrners do this automaticly when most you have to use a program or a utitlity to do it. I hope this has helped in some way and you get some use out of the information we have given.
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Bohefus
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22. September 2005 @ 18:01 |
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I was man enough to correct myself after I serched about this.
Saying a few DVD Burrners change the booktyping automaticly but not very much do.
You never really admitted that I was right about automatic booktype changes, you just added it into your new post like it was something you believed all along and then turned your argument to whether it shows the new booktype within Nero. I've never disputed the fact that the booktype is changed and is reflected within Nero. You made it sound as if the disc itself would show as a dvdrom. When I had problems with burning DVD+R with my new drive I did some research myself and more than a few drives automatically change the booktype.
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22. September 2005 @ 18:41 |
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Im not going to argue about it anymore. I have been doing this for years and have over 1000 backups done. It isnt my fault you are missleading people, and I never once said that the disc type would change to DVD-ROM. I said the booktype is changed to DVD-ROM which in a way it does change it from DVD+R to DVD-ROM. So say what you want. I dont really care anymore. The fact is if the system they use dont read DVD+R disc then they need to change the booktype to DVD-ROM and very few do that automaticly.
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filinc
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11. October 2005 @ 15:04 |
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sorry, but larrylje - you are the argumentative one, not only did you start in an argumentative way by saying 'i disagree with that statement' you then followed by making a completely incorrect statement:-
"either you had a program changing it or the burrner just burnt better copies or your media was better. I bet if you took an old backup and looked it would be a DVD+R burn. All you have to do is look at a DVD that your old burrner burnt and open it in Nero and check the disc information and see."
totally wrong. Bohefus was totally right with what he said, and rather than accept that humbly, you arrogantly continued to argue, when you were clearly wrong.
I had exactly the problem that Bohefus had, and am so glad he posted this info, thanks mate... fiL
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11. October 2005 @ 15:48 |
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@filinc
If you read all the post you would see that I said i did some searching and I found out there are drives out there that change it auromaticly but most dont. I corrected myself. So read all the post before making a statment that I contnued to argue.
What we continued to disagre about was Nero showing the disc being changed. Bofus said: Quote:
of course it's going to say DVD+R, changing the booktype isn't going to change the media. You be honest, take a +R or a -R and burn a disc, change the booktype to dvdrom and use Nero's disc info tool and see what it says after. It's still going to say DVD+R or DVD-R no matter what
and thats false it will show the booktype as DVD-ROM
So next time read all the post before throwing your 2-cents in.
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