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Burning a 700MB file onto a CD-R disk
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malcolmt
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23. April 2002 @ 18:40 |
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How do I burn a 700 MB file onto a 700MB disk when the formatting takes up 33MB first?
I have a CD-R/RW writer and use Easy CD 5.0.
malcolmt
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andavari
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24. April 2002 @ 23:25 |
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Your drive will probably have to support overburning, and your cd creation software must have it as an option.
Try Nero: http://www.nero.com/
Nero also has a list of compatible drives, and shows if they support overburning.
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Ghostdog
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25. April 2002 @ 01:30 |
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Why would you format a CD-R? I´ve never had to do this, only with CD-RWs.
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malcolmt
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25. April 2002 @ 02:07 |
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PING GhostDog:
Well I did say I was new to this...
What I have done so far is format the disk using Direct CD which leaves 670 MB available space, then copy the movie to that disk.
How do I copy it without first formatting?
I use Easy CD 5.0
Sorry, I know I'm computer illiterate - well, almost.
I have NERO but when I tried to burn movies using that prog. it took the time to do it but left me with blank disks (you could see the burn zone but my system couldn't read anything - I un-installed nero).
Could you give me some step by step info, please?
malcolmt
a very newbie at cd-r/rw
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Ghostdog
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25. April 2002 @ 07:04 |
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Just excuse me, are you using a CD-RW or a CD-R ?
If it´s a CD-R then you don´t need to format it. Atleast I´ve never heard of anyone doing this, just burn the movie on to the disc.
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cd-rw.org
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25. April 2002 @ 08:11 |
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Dont use DirectCD, since it wastes space - as you have noticed. Burn the CD-RW disc just like you burn CD-Rs.
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malcolmt
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26. April 2002 @ 08:18 |
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Sorry, my mistake - I'm still getting my "burner" language together.
I have a TEAC CD-RW Burner and want to burn movies onto CD-R 700MB disks.
Up to now, I've been using DirectCD Format Utility to format the disk (using up 33MB of space) then copying the movie file to the disk using MS explorer.
I hope you can tell me there's a better way of doing it ( hopefully without using NERO)
Many thanks in advance.
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Ghostdog
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26. April 2002 @ 10:48 |
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Since you´ve been talking about CD-Rs as your selected format, some info:
CD-R = A disc that you can burn/write once
CD-RW = A re-writable disc that you can burn over and over again.
Am I missing something here?
CD-RW.org, you know abouth this type of stuff. You format CD-RWs but not CD-Rs. At least I´ve never had to do this.
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cd-rw.org
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26. April 2002 @ 12:55 |
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Malcomt,
Just forget the damn DirectCD for a while. What other software you have on your PC - Easy CD Creator? Then use it to burn the disc.
Also, spend the weekend reading this: http://www.cdrfaq.org/
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malcolmt
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26. April 2002 @ 17:54 |
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You mightn't think so but I've learned a lot these last few days.
Many thanks, guys.
I'm off to look at cdrfaq right now - yep, good weekend reading.
Many thanks again.
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Pio2001
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27. April 2002 @ 04:20 |
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EasyCD creator comes with DirectCD, it is a separate module that loads itself onto Windows Explorer, so that you can acess your burner as a floppy drive, with CD-RW discs.
The CD-RW must first be specially formatted, and DirectCD must be loaded in order to make Windows believe the burner is not a read-only device.
DirectCD is not for burning regular CD ROM. In order to burn a 700 MB file on a CDR, use EasyCD creator, ask for a data CD, and burn. There's no formatting.
It is perfectly possible to format a CDR, in order to burn it drag'n dropping files in the explorer, or from the "save as" dialog boxes.
On the other hand, it is also possible to burn a CDRW like a CDR, but the quality is often bad, and the data quickly becomes unreadable.
Pio2001
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Ghostdog
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27. April 2002 @ 05:38 |
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Thanks for the info Pio. With what software do you format a CD-R? How does the actual burning process work when using the drag and drop-method?
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cd-rw.org
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28. April 2002 @ 03:16 |
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Pio,
Define "data quickly becomes unreadable". My understanding is that CD-RW longevity has increased during the years of developement. Not for archiving vital material of course.
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Pio2001
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28. April 2002 @ 06:50 |
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I've never tried it, but I think you should be able to format CDR as well as CDRW with softwares for CDRW like DirectCD (bundled with EasyCD creator), InCD (bundled with Nero), Packet CD (originally bundled with WinonCD), or another one.
I really hope that the lifespan of CDRW has been improved.
Memorex 4x are unreadable after 6 monthes !
ATIP: 97m 27s 10f
Disc Manufacturer: Plasmon Data Systems, Ltd.
Reflective layer: Phase change
Media type: CD-ReWritable
Recording Speeds: min. unknown - max. 4X
nominal Capacity: 656.10MB (74m 41s 00f / LBA: 335925)
A friend of mine also had his CDRWs unreadable after 6 monthes, but I don't know which brand they were.
Pio2001
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Pio2001
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28. April 2002 @ 07:02 |
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How does the burning works ?
Exactly like writing a floppy, or a file on the hard disc, exept it runs at your writer's speed.
Pio2001
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cd-rw.org
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28. April 2002 @ 11:39 |
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Pio,
The lifetime of CD-RW should be measured in years nowadays. My oldest CD-RW is over 3 years old (RICOH 2X) and it's still good.
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andavari
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29. April 2002 @ 06:53 |
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I've got some Memorex Platinum 4x, and they're still performing well (knock on wood) for over a year, but that is of course using full erase each time I rewrite them. The only thing that's annoying is they make a loud vibration in the writer.
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LumpyGrvy
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18. June 2002 @ 10:44 |
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I hate computers, or rather they hate me
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cd-rw.org
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18. June 2002 @ 12:37 |
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Why cut a 700mb file if it can be burned as it is on a 80min/700mb disc?
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Pio2001
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19. June 2002 @ 11:11 |
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Andavari, I spoke of the lifespan of the data once recorded on the CDRW, not the CDRW itself.
Pio2001
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Onelove
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3. July 2002 @ 07:18 |
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WELL PIO I AM USING EASY CD CREATOR AND I JUST DONT HAVE THE OPTION TO CREATE A DATA CD...THE FIRST 2 OPTIONS ARE EITHER FORmAT CD OR CAST OUT (EJECT,,, I VE THE DUTCH VERSION)
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Pio2001
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3. July 2002 @ 14:07 |
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Sorry I don't have it installed anymore, since it didn't support my Yamaha CRW3200.
According to my memories, it's the "new data structure" action in the "file" menu.
Make sure the program you're running is called "EasyCD Creator", not "DirectCD". It should have a lot more menus and actions than that.
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opchee
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13. July 2002 @ 17:10 |
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Ok, I sense some major confusion between most of you guys that you dont realize, and i think i know what's going on, so bear with me.
I have recently bought a Plextor CDRW, and it came with Roxio Easy CD creator. I installed it, and it created a shortcut in my START MENU called Easy CD Creator 5 Basic. When i clicked on that, it started something labeled "Easy CD Creator 5 basic. it looks like some kinda GUI, with 4 big blue buttons on the left(make a music CD, make a data CD[you put your mouse on this and you get the directCD option], then make a photo or video CD, and Disc copier)
Now, for all those novices out there, eventhough this thing says it's Easy CD Creator 5 basic, it is NOT, i repeat, NOT the Easy CD Creator the old timers here are refering to. The "real" Easy CD Creator (not 5 basic, just Easy CD Creator) is located at START>PROGRAMS>ROXIO EASY CD CREATOR 5 >APPLICATIONS>EASY CD CREATOR
or in the Easy CD Creator 5 Basic screen you're accustomed to (the one with the 4 big blue buttons on the left) go to "Make a data CD", then click on "Data CD project" instead of "DirectCD"
So, to the newbies, you're seeing a screen that the old timers never saw before nor knew existed, so they were talking bout something that is now called "Data CD project" to you.
whereas to the old timers, somehow roxio made some GUI and called it Easy CD creator 5 basic and confused the heck out of everyone, and they have hidden the REAL old school Easy CD Creator somewhere deep and gave it a different name.
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cd-rw.org
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14. July 2002 @ 03:40 |
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Thank you Opchee for the great post!
Another problem is that "old timers" do not use Easy CD Creator at all. I personally haven't used it for 4 years. It was the ware bundled with my first drive (HP 7200e) but I quickly found out about better alternatives and stopped using it.
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Ghostdog
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17. July 2002 @ 22:47 |
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Nero 5 is working just fine for me and myu Lite-On. Then again this is my first CD-RW(yes, I´m not afraid to admit it) and there might be better alternatives.
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