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Blu-Ray. Can THEY make it hard to decrypt?
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ChimpyD
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24. November 2005 @ 13:56 |
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I just had a thought. Could there be another reason why the Corps. are releasing these scheduled larger-sized media (new DVD-formats) other than just adding more media onto them? Aside from the media on the disc, if they put in larger, more complex copy-protections and filled the rest of the disc with random data, would it take a longer while (maybe months or years) until someone can crack it. I know it's probably unlikely, especially because most people would have to buy the hardware for Blu-Ray, but sifting through all that data seems tough. Don't get me wrong, I hope someone does find a way, but I noticed the recent trend of companies switching over from development for the HD DVD format to Blu-Ray and couldn't help but feel a little worried. 'Course, I could be wrong about everything, but does anyone know what's likely to happen?
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Jkhmmr
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28. November 2005 @ 02:21 |
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It'll be harder to crack because it's completely new and there will have to be new programs made for it and then someone has to write cracking software. It'll take some time but in a year or two after PCs get Bluray drives it will be done.
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29. November 2005 @ 02:45 |
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Harder than dvd? Sure. Impossible? Hell no.
DvdJon has to update his nick to BlurayJon soon.
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Datdude
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29. November 2005 @ 07:14 |
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it's supposed to be harder cuz the keys actually work instead of dvd css whatever it's called somone will crack it in no time they can't make it that hard cuz then they would run into problems with paying customers not being able to play the media
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29. November 2005 @ 07:45 |
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i bet there's gonna be full of dummy files too plus some new protection layer.
stop hoping, start loving.
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downward
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4. December 2005 @ 17:43 |
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Both will use multi-level copy protection
AACS- a new encryption technology will be used for both and then each one has seperate add-ons.
they will not make the same mistakes as in CSS
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4. December 2005 @ 19:25 |
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And in a week we will see a 15-line perl code that decrypts it ^_^
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5. December 2005 @ 01:50 |
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Has anyone broken the CPPM copy protection for real DVD-Audio not DD 5:1 ? the answer is........no
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diabolos
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5. December 2005 @ 03:00 |
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I think thats do to the fact the best people for the job probably don't care about DVD-A. BD and HD-DVD will be much more popular. But thats just my opinion.
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5. December 2005 @ 12:53 |
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that's always the reply... but CSS was limited by the US govt because 128 bit encryption could not be used when the cp was developed due to some strange law about exporting the technology so they were stuck with crappy CSS, a few years later CPPM was used for DVD-A and still remains un-cracked. The new technologies are multi-layered with a better understanding of how things are hacked. I can't get into details due to NDAs but when these things come out you'll see
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diabolos
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5. December 2005 @ 15:05 |
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drunkfish
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22. December 2005 @ 14:49 |
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The old adage applies, if you can watch it you can copy it and if you can listen to it you can copy it as well.
With all the effort that will go into being the first to break the encryption im sure it will get cracked fast.
Far too many talented crackers out there!
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zrdb
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13. January 2006 @ 23:28 |
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It's like saying there is a taller mountain than Everest out there and someone will climb it. I don't care how complex DRM on both formats will be-it can and will be cracked.
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1. May 2006 @ 20:55 |
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Here! Here!
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N2DVD
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2. May 2006 @ 10:01 |
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Slysoft is probably cracking Blu-Ray/HD as we speak....I would not be surprised.:P
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diabolos
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2. May 2006 @ 19:51 |
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N2DVD
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3. May 2006 @ 14:56 |
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The reference to "Cracked" or perhaps a better term "Hacked", applies in terms of unchartered water media wise as well as what ultimatley takes place from the technical side to allow for anyone outside of the manufactures to reproduce either HD/DVD or BLU-RAY/DVD. I agree that someone will, if not already has achieved this feat. In my estimation it is those closest to the technology who discover how to hack into or crack the encryption and not just for the everyday joe to make up back-up copies.
The way I see it, It's almost an antidotal approach by it's creators i.e. a key or remedy to that which is otherwised locked media. Now how it eventually leeks out to other hackers or everyday joe's, I believe is related to flawed business relationships. With the hacking of these products and technology working against the corporate structure manufacturing these products like that of an Achilles heel.:P
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drunkfish
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3. May 2006 @ 15:28 |
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when i said cracked i meant that there will be a way to circumvent the copy protection so people can use their right to make backups of movies they have purchased.
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Pride1
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4. May 2006 @ 12:53 |
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It'll be a while before we can "back up" these DVDs, since theres gonna be more space i expect a more complex copy protection, but its just a matter of time before its cracked
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diabolos
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4. May 2006 @ 16:47 |
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And thats my point. If the DRM already allow users to make a back-up or at least a hard drive backup so it can be used on other equipment on a network what reason would there be to crack the copy protection? DVD copy protection was cracked because it was too restrictive and took away the consumers basic use rights.
DVD Jon helped crack CSS, the copy protection used on DVDs (except DVD-Audio discs), so he could watch DVDs on his PC. His work was used to create all of the the DVD rippers that now exsist. People call it DeCSS.
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N2DVD
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4. May 2006 @ 19:22 |
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Hmmmm! Thanks for the education diabolos, I didn't know that. So much for my specualation. I think the movie companies are mildly admitting defeat as relates to encryption....A new means of aquiring movies online as well as rent has lead me to this belief. Hey members check out this website. www.movielink.com Let me know what you think.
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5. May 2006 @ 12:34 |
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well sony has already backed down from putting the flags on there bd media and i think the hd camp will do the same. there are just too many people that have hd tvs that use component inputs. with out a dvi or hdmi u couldnt watch either with these flags present on there dvds.the competition will be great between the two for customers. that should last a few years. besides i cant even afford DL media much less blank hd or bd.
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SCEvan
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19. June 2006 @ 17:15 |
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a blank blue-ray disc costs $25, youll be better off just buying an original
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20. June 2006 @ 07:20 |
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7. October 2006 @ 19:14 |
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Yea lol the orgianl.
Media should go down soon hopefuly.
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