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Troble copying disc (not enough space?)
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joforce2
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25. November 2005 @ 16:38 |
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I have been trying to burn many disc for about a month now (house of wax, blade, x-men, but for some reason, all the software i use (Nero, dvd shrink, dvd decryper all tell me that i don't have enough space to write on my disc. My empty disc uses 4.7GB (im guessin thats a dvd 5, but is askin me to put in a dvd 9) i don't know if that will fix the problem because ive been usin 4.7GB for a while with out any problem. if anybody can tell me how to fix this problem using my usual 4.7GB disc, please share the info. thankx!!!
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andmerr
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25. November 2005 @ 18:14 |
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you do realise that a 4.7 gig disc is in actual reality only 4.38 gig.The other 400meg of info is what the disc manufactures put on there so in total the whole disc is 4.7gig.
Do you know how big your project is?
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ScubaPete
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25. November 2005 @ 18:34 |
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Hi joforce2, welcome to aD,
There are 2 places where room is an issue. The first is on your HD. You'll need at least 12 to 15 GB of Free space for your programs to do their work.
The second place is, of course, your DVD Disc. A 4.7 GB DVD doesn't have 4.7 GB of space, it has 4.38 GB and we like to use less. Many DVD blank discs have uneven dye around the outer edge SO we don't want to burn that far.
Next, we want to use the right program and we want to use it in the correct manner.
You either have too little free space on your HD Or, you aren't using the programs correctly.
Why don't you follow the gide below and let's sea if we can't get you squared away ~
Since you told me you already have DVD Decrypter and DVD Shrink, we'l use those ~
First, Create a folder on your HD for your backup work. Name it something easy PLUS the name of the DVD you're working with. I call mine, "All My DVD work." Try to put it someplace where you won't forget it, i.e. C:\All My DVD Work \ Dumb and Dumber Meet the Parents Out for a Kill get Eaten Alive.
Now, and this is important, create another folder inside the first one and name it "VIDEO_TS". Written EXACTLY like that as it is case sensitive. This is where DVD Decrypter will place your original's decrypted files.
To be sure we don't miss a setting, and that all steps are followed EXACTLY ~
Why not PRINT THIS GUIDE OUT NOW !
(So much easier to work with iffin we do that, don't Ya know ? :-)
See the "Print" link up at the top right corner of this page, ~ff
Next, let's get DVDD setup. ~ Did you remember what DVDD stood for ? Yea ? I knew you would :) Are you ready ?? Good. :) Then let's open up DVDD.
Now, I'd like to make a couple of small adjustments to DVD Decrypter . For that we need to go to "Tools," then "Settings," then click on the "General Tab ." Under "Removal Method," - please change that from "Normal" to "Aggressive." Next, go to the "I/O Tab tab." At the bottom-right I'd like you to put a check where it says "Ignore Read Errors." This will help speed things along by bypassing any tiny scratch-caused errors on the original disc. Finally, let's go to the "Device Tab ." Under "Eject Tray after," I like to check both "Read" and "Write" so that if I'm busy doing something and my PC's sound is turned down, the tray opening alerts me that DVDD's job is done. If you don't want that to happen, don't check those boxes. Now, click "OK."
In DVDD's main window, under "Mode," select "File." ~ (If I'm doing an Episodic DVD, I use "Mode," then ISO and then "Read," to get all of the episodes, menus and the like. HOWEVER, for almost every other DVD, I use the "Mode" - "File" setting.) ~ Where it says "Source," browse to your DVD ROM drive with your waiting original DVD OR, if your DVD ROM isn't installed yet, locate and select your burner. Lastly, where it says "Destination," browse to the folder we just created and select the VIDEO_TS folder for your "Destination."
Did you put that DVD you wanted to work with in the "Source" drive yet ? You didn't ? Well then, let's get the "lead" out and get it done. (Lol) Good, your Mommy would be very proud of you. :)
While we continue working, let's start Mr. DVDD a-working on our DVD so we don't waste too much time. SO, to get that ball rolling, simply "click" the "Drive to HD" icon.
DVDD will decrypt the DVD files and place them on our HD and, when it's all completed, it will let us know by playing a little "Finished" tune and "spit" out the Disc.
("Gee willikers Mr. Bill, I'm tired already - this is really a lot of work." (Lol);)
Next, open DVD Shrink. You have the final version of DVD Shrink so treat it nicely. Let's click "Edit," then click "Preferences," on this page we're going to select "DVD Target Size" and change it from DVD-5 to "Custom" and set the size no higher than 4360MB. If your blank discs aren't the best, drop your size to 4200MB. We do this to ensure that we're not burning to the very edge of the disc where the dye may be uneven OR even absent. Next, under the "File I/O" tab, "tick "Enable burning with Nero" then click "OK".
Working with CD's isn't anything at all like working with DVD's. Only the very best quality media should be used for DVD Video backups. Price unfortunately, is not a reliable gauge for determining quality. Many times, a good, consistent quality disc will cost less than a disc manufactured without any noticeable quality controls. We lQQk for a good dye, applied evenly from the inside to the outer edge of a high quality disc. Believe it or not, decent quality isn't necessarily expensive. Go Figure,Huh ?
A consistently hi-quality media would be Phillips, Sony, TDK, HP, "Branded" RiData G03's, Maxell +R and Fuji +R?s, BUT not the -R's (dash or minus R's) as they cannot be trusted, Ritek G04 and G05's (not the 01's or the 02's), Verbatim DataLife, Verbatim DataLife Plus and media boasting "Advanced Metal AZO" BUT, it must say "Advanced METAL AZO", this indicates a superior dye and dye application on a good composite disc.
Other discs such as Memorex, ?Great AZO?, and Princo are, in a word, crap.
As a general rule, the majority of discs manufactured by Taiyo Yuden, Mitsubishi, RICOH are good bets. Only those Ritek named above are to be trusted the rest should be avoided. Look closely at those discs we recommended, you will see some dye types not listed by us. Those are poor risks even though the same company makes them.
Prices online from SuperMediaStore.com, Meritline.com OR Newegg.com have gotten Ritek G04 starting at about a $ .36 (USD) a disc - and just recently, a "Super Sale" had 100 Taiyo Yuden discs, 4X for $.25 ea.(USD). An added PLUS, the above online stores all have an excellent return policy. As a passing note, when buying Verbatim's anywhere, they come with a lifetime warranty.
Return the bad disc with a copy of your Internet sales slip OR a retail cash register receipt and a new one will be shipped out straight away, esta no problemo`.
Don't underestimate DVD media, it is of major importance when working with DVD video. Using poor quality media, i.e. Memorex, etc. may well cause unnecessary errors, Now is definitely not the time to put in your, "Boy did I save money buying this crappy stuff,"
This may be a good time to use a DVD RW. We won't use them regularly because for 1, many older DVD players don't play them and 2, they cost too much (Lol). We want to use them now because if we make a mistake, it won't cost us a disc. When we get our steps down pat we'll then switch to our single-write media.
Let's open DVD Shrink and "click' "Open Files." Now, browse to our created VIDEO_TS folder where DVDD sent our original's files. We'll just "chill" for the 30-45 seconds it takes for DVD Shrink analyze those files.
Ya ready ? Good ! Let's burn that "Bad Dog." Today, we're doing a total backup. That's means that all the things on the original disc we'll be putting on the backup disc. There's no problem in doing this as long as we don't see any "Red" on the size bar at the top, right-hand area of DVD Shrink's program. (If you should see some "Red" there, on the size bar, simply "Un-tick" any unwanted foreign languages like Bovine Slobber Jaw, Saturn Ring Worrble, Director's comments or DTS sound boxes until the "Red" disappears.) With no "Red," we just let the "Automatic" (Default) settings alone. THEN we select "Backup." Our final settings will take just a second. Under "Target Device" go to "Select backup target " once there, select "ISO Image File and burn with DVD Decrypter" .
Now, under "Quality Settings", if it's SPEED you're after, "un-tick" the box which says, "Perform deep analysis" and "un-tick" the box for "Compress the video with high quality adaptive error compensation". This will give you an acceptable DVD backup. Go to the "Let's Burn" section of this guide.
If it's QUALITY you're after and have some extra time to spend, "tick" "Perform deep analysis" before backup to improve quality AND "tick" "Compress video with high quality adaptive error compensation." There you may adjust quality enhancements. Practicing with the settings can produce even better end products. For a no-frills DVD's like "There's something about Mary" I like Maximum Smoothness BUT for DVD's with a lot of special effects, i.e. Alien Vs. Predator OR Matrix Revolutions, I use the Maximum Sharpness setting. That's for me, you'll have to decide what you like :)
Let's Burn !
If all the boxes are "grayed out" that's great, it means your DVD is small enough that nothing at all will be lost from the original. Finally, where it says "Select target image file", browse till you find your created folder for your backup (NOT THE VIDEO_TS Folder, JUST THE MAIN FOLDER) and click "Save". That's it ! Click "OK" and DVD Shrink begins the process that burns that compressed ISO image to your HD. What that means is, DVD Shrink then opens DVD Decrypter and has it burn the ISO image to your waiting blank DVD. NOTE: The "ISO" Image IS your processed DVD movie. Your movie can be in one of two forms either files OR an image. Both play the DVD on your PC and your standalone players.
Now, this is IMPORTANT - Don't use your PC for anything at all while she's working. I'M NOT KIDDING ! STAND BACK FROM THE COMPUTER ! Burning a DVD isn't anything like working with CD's at all. It's a processor and RAM resource intensive operation.
Just chill and watch some "tube" for awhile and when PC's done working, she'll let you know, heh, heh -
Let me know how you made out alright ?
I'll be waiting to hear from you,
Cheers,
Pete
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