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NickBrown
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1. December 2005 @ 00:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi all,

This is my first post so apologies if i get something wrong.

I am in need of help, I have planned to make a backup of all my DVD's due to the fact that we have a personal DVD player so wouldn't want to lose mt entire collection whilst on the move.

I have been advise to use DVD Decrypter in combination with DVD Shrink, this seems to agree with alot of people on this site.

My first attempt was to try ripping 'Finding Nemo' to my HD using DVD Decrypter in file mode, although things seemed to be happening I had to abort this rip after about 6 hours (I'm not sure how long this should take). At this point I thought maybe it wasn't working so tried again using DVD Fab Decrypter, this worked but actually took over 12 hours and then end result causes DVD Shrink to throw an error when trying to read the 'VIDEO_TS' folder! I know my PC isn't the greatest but should this be expected?
Also, is there a way of recovering the ripped files, I'm not sure I can waste another 12 hours!

Or should I perservere with DVD Decrypter and see how that goes, my plan was maybe to kick it off at 8am Saturday morning and let it complete, then go from there!

Really I am in need of guidance as to the best method to use and what is the minumim spec PC recommended for this type of work. I also run Norton Internet Security 2005 so would it make sense to disble this during the ripping process?

Any help that can be given will be grately appreciated!

Thanks in advance!
Nick
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kikiwhere
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1. December 2005 @ 00:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Why expend so much time? It costs me about 2 hours to rip a 120-minute dvd. aoa or xilisoft works well. Check the guide http://www.dvd-tool.com/dvd-rip-software/dvd-rip-divx-avi-aoa.html

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1. December 2005 @ 00:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi,

Welcome to Afterdawn. Wow at the rip times. Sounds like your dvd drive is in pio mode. Refer to http://www.burstcopy.com/dma/xp/ to enable the dma on your drive you are using. Post back if that does not work so we can get you up n running for backups of your dvd collection.

As far as the minimum specs you should have at least 15g of free space on your hard drive for the ripped files, at least 512mb of ram (256mb would suffice but you have to virtually turn off every non-essential program during burning). You don't have to disable norton internet security during the ripping process only suggest you do that AFTER you disconnect from the net. http://home.comcast.net/~bbmayo/software.htm excellent guides on the software you are currently using and a few others. Check the guides tab at the top of the page for additional tutorials.

@kikiwhere

Yes those rippers as well as imtoo are great but only if you are saving to an external drive and convert to be dvd compliance at a later time. I believe they want to view the backups on a personal dvd player. Unless they have a divx compatible player they would still need to convert to burn to dvd to watch. Not trying to flame just trying to keep all who read this from being confused.

to burn or not to burn that is the question


need help w/ media read this http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/155431

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NickBrown
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1. December 2005 @ 00:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for the help!

Just for added info, my PC is P2-400 with RAM-128mb, HD-30gb. Sounds like as suspected the PC is the root of the problem.

I will check the DMA setting and change this if necessary.

I'll report back on any progress/problems I have.

Thanks again.
Nick
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1. December 2005 @ 00:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@NickBrown,

Haven't seen a p2-400 in ages..well in college but another story :). Okay with only a 128mb of ram no matter what you do your pc will rip/ burn at a snails' pace. I will stand by my suggestion to add more memory (ram) depending on what your pc can handle I would shoot to get it up to at least 512mb.

to burn or not to burn that is the question


need help w/ media read this http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/155431
NickBrown
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1. December 2005 @ 01:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The most Ram my PC will handle is 384mb, so would be cheaper to invest in a new PC. If absolutely necessary this is the road I may have to go down.

Thanks
Nick
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1. December 2005 @ 01:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
A temporary fix would be to boost up to 384mb as that would be sufficient with the suggestion i made earlier to turn off some processes. Also do you have an internal or external dvd burner connected via usb 2.0? 256mb of ram is under 100 USD nowadays but depending on your location there are are pcs with a dvd burner and 512mb or ram on sale for about 400 USD or so (not sure if you are in the UK or other region what the conversion is)..not top of the line but for a "new toy" sufficient for what you want to do.

to burn or not to burn that is the question


need help w/ media read this http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/155431
NickBrown
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1. December 2005 @ 01:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I know the memory isn't largely expensive but it's throwing money at a problem I hope to remove in the near future by buying a new one.

I'm in the UK and use an external usb2.0 DVD burner, so would only require a PC with Cd drive.

Thanks
Nick
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1. December 2005 @ 01:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I agree if you can hold out and save up get a new pc. Not sure if you have a walmart equivalent or you want a super pc but try www.newegg.com. They have some pretty decent ones for a reasonable price. Let me send a pm to someone real quick who could point you in the right direction for your location.

to burn or not to burn that is the question


need help w/ media read this http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/155431
andmerr
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1. December 2005 @ 02:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@matt72:

matt you underestimate your self.For this thread you are pretty spot on.

@ nickbrown: i gather your using sdram ram currently and upgrading a p2 400 is probably going to be a waste of time.

Matt has being pretty spot on with the assessment of your current pc.

Heres a rough idea of what you will require to fasten your pc up so that the times for encoding and burning maybe lessen drastically.

My pc stats are:
1.gigabyte motherboard 915P duo
(supports up to 4 gig of ram)
2.1024 ddr pc 400 ram : currently installed in 2x 512 sims
3.CHIPSET :3.2 gig p4
4.12 X LG dual layered dvd burner
5.1x 160 gig hard drive.It is essential that you have betwen 6 to 15 gig of space free on one partition of your hard drive for a success dvd backup.



You could probably get away with upgrading your motherboard/ram /and chipset only and it would cost you about 200 pounds.Which is really very inexpensive.

Without this upgrade you can expext to have encoding times and burns of up to 12 hours or more, but with the upgrades you should be able to encode a 700meg file (avi) in about one hour depending on the encoder you use and 15 minutes to compile a dvd and also burn it to disc.

Apart from the software mentioned do you have any other installed?
You can minimise the current times by not surfing the net, turn your virus software off as well as any program that is not essential for your pc to function, but this will only minise the time frame marginally (you probably wouldnt notice)
NickBrown
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1. December 2005 @ 02:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks all for the great advice!

I really think the best solution is to look into purhasing a new PC, Dell Outlet has some great deals at the momentso I'll take a look.

I'm gonna perservere with the current PC for now and see how I go, I wanna prove to myself that it can do it no matter how long it takes, lol.

Anyway, I'll post again when i have some news.

Thanks
Nick
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1. December 2005 @ 02:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@andmerr,

Thanks just giving what I've learned here on Ad :).

@NickBrown,

Please stick around and enjoy the wealth of knowledge here...only thing the admins ask is that you try to help, keep your posts profanity free and contribute in a positive manner (although we all have slipped on occasion)

to burn or not to burn that is the question


need help w/ media read this http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/155431
andmerr
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1. December 2005 @ 02:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@ nickbrown: no probs sorry if this isnt what you wanted.I would also suggest that you look into seeing about running a dvd rom as well as the dvd burner.sOME DVD software apps can utilise both a rom and burner which will make it easier on you.All you do is put the source in the rom drive and an empty disc in the burner and then you wont have to worry about changing discs.

Clonedvd ver2 from elby
nero
shrink

utilise this type of mechanism as well as many more.

@ matt72: man i have been looking at some of your posts and am astounded at how well you are coming along with the thoughtful and intelligent answers.

keep it up

andmerr
NickBrown
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7. December 2005 @ 04:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just bought a Dell 9100 (P4 3.0ghz, 1gb-Ram, 160gb-Hd, 17"TFT) for £530. Once it has arrived and settled in I'll give the ripping some testing and see what happens!

Thanks again for the advice.

Nick
NickBrown
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19. December 2005 @ 02:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well guys,

Over the weekend managed to rip my first DVD, well 3 actually. The first took around 45 minutes from start to finish, the others were about 30 minutes. I was amazed at how simple it all was.

Happy days are here again.

Nick
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19. December 2005 @ 07:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
glad toi see its sorted.You know once you have this mastered ,you'll probably get bored so the next step is to try something a bit more challenging.Lets us know when you get there
NickBrown
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20. December 2005 @ 23:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You could be so right, once i've sorted all my backups I wanna transfer alot of stuff from video i.e. home movies. Then I wanna transfer directly from camera to pc.

So like you say there's always something to be done and learnt.

Thanks
Nick
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andmerr
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21. December 2005 @ 00:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
no probs have a good xmas and new year
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