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mfrink
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13. December 2005 @ 13:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I am interested in using xmas money to buy a 1.5v psp on ebay. Basically the main reason I'll use my psp is to play Tiger woods 06, Madden, and emulated games, like GBA, SNES and NES, also to watch TV shows and movies

My questions are,

-Can someone write a list of all the PSP games that work using homebrew?
I've downloaded about 10 games, and I can't really see playing that many as long as i get a positive answer to my next question
-How good do the GBA, SNES and NES emulators work, will it be worth it to play a lot?

Thanks
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13. December 2005 @ 15:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
all those emulators are fine.. the rest errr problematic I'll say. Just buy an i-pod if all you're gonna use the psp for is video and music. I can understand why u would want to play homebrew on the psp, but for the dough you'll be spending, you can buy an entirely new console. Despite gamecube being so cheap, it's got good games. Gamecube games are a bitch to emulate, and to have run on emulators because they're so slow, so all your psp will be is a modified gb gbc gba. It's really not worth it but It's up to you. You might like the psp. It's games kinduh bite though.

NO!
mfrink
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13. December 2005 @ 15:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You make a strong argument but can I take the Gamecube on an airplane, car or bus? Same for NES, SNES and Sega. I want my games portable. I also want movies portable and music, and ipods are just as expensive with less features. If all the emus work, then im almost sold

Still wondering the list of PSP games that work on v1.5

I have on my computer these so far

Fifa 06
Madden 06
Socom
SSX ON tour
GTA LCS
Need for Speed
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13. December 2005 @ 16:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
definitely get a 1.5 PSP. DEFINITELY.
if you get 2.0, downgrade.
if you get 2.5, ARGH!!! You dissapoint me.
if you get DS or ipod, ARGH!!! You dissapoint me even more.
if you get a gamecube, 30min power supply, portable LCD screen, you won't have much fun.

GET 1.5 PSP.

The whole homebrew scene depends on you (and you and you and you) becuase if no-one uses homebrew they'll all ive up! just like if no-one buys XBOX games...

PLUS 1.5 PSP is better.

PLUS you don't need a SNES, GBA... Your 1.5 PSP IS your SNES, GBA, Genesis (and in the near future) DS.

I was told to change my sig so I did this.

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bbirdXP
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14. December 2005 @ 17:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
How fun is playing ds on your psp? I already have a gba as I think most of us do so homebrew is kinduh... i donno.

How will you possibly lift up the stylus? What's the point if it won't be compatible w/ other ds's. And ut might take years for programmers to develop a working emulator for the ds, so don't get your hopes up. PSP indulged me because of it's other features. Hey, lets face it, you can't fight conveniance. I want a movie viewer, gaming machine and music player all in one. But then (me being a gamer and all) I said no to the PSP due to it's lack of good games. Nintendo whips up good games in no time. PSP is great, if you wanna get robbed, or have it break or get scrattched in a matter of days. even though the psp is convenient, it's price tag isn't, and it's not worth the money. Have fun playing nintendo 64 on your psp..... while I play n64 and MUCH MORE on my ds. For it's price tag, I'm getting my money's worth. Remember.... ds just had plain fun games. I wish the the ds looked better though. But really think about it. Katamari Damaci is an excellent game and gets good ratings on most websites. It launched on ps2 but now, instead of launching on psp, it's lauching on DS. "Why?", you ask? Because nintendo is known for great games like that. It can keep you more entertained on a boring flight than the psp ever can. Psp, might entertain you.. for about 2 minutes before the batteries die.

I'm a nintendo fan and i can't deny it....... But I was about to buy the psp until I found out, it aint worth my money. Have fun with gta, that psp puzzle game everyone likes and the (slightly boring) metal gear acid, while i have fun with. Animal Crossing, Sonic DS, Viewtufl Joe, Kirby canvas curse, Nintendgos, Advance wars, Mario & luigi 2, The new mario platformer, Mario kart ds, Metroid, and soooo much damn more. I was about to take the psp plunge when I found out i was just gonna buy it to play videos and music. I'll just get an i-pod and a ds. Good games + good music. Homebrew on the psp.. kinduh not worth it because I've read that most psp downgrades contain trojans and could mess up your computer. And you WILL have to downgrade for those thinking you can just play roms off the bat. And when you think about it, you're gonna need a bigger memory card to store more games in. That alone is like 100$ just to play roms on your psp. You're paying for something that's free!? For those who dont have broaband connections, they wont even be able to download console roms at all. Gamecube is a good system. PS2's games are alot and alot are good, buy you can't say the cube is inferior gameplay wise. It actually might be better than ps2.
Yes I'm biased.. i know.

NO!
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14. December 2005 @ 19:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I know socom and GTA do not work on a 1.5 and I've heard of some people having problems with madden. And I'm not sure about fifa and NFS most wanted, SSX works and Prince of Persia is worth playing in my opinion and burnout also as it is better than NFS. The choice in any event is up to you tho.
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14. December 2005 @ 21:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
wow bird, you spent a lot of time on a good psp rip. Although you didn't change my mind. The ds may have great games and be fun but what a ridiculous design. I mean dual screen with a stylus is a great concept but they just murdered it. Enjoy carple tunnle in the near future while holding your extreamly heavy Nintendo DS in one hand and using your stylus in the other. And the screens are so small, i feel like i need to wear a magnifing glass while playing it.
I believe $300 for a psp and 1 gig stick plus accessorys is a great price and def well worth it. And that is also for a rare 1.5v on ebay so I don't have to downgrade.
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15. December 2005 @ 01:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
WOW, so some games on the DS are apparently good enough to warrant the weirdness of the whole package. kind of went off topic as that lot progressed. Loved the bit about a DS and an ipod rather than a PSP, must walk around with a batbelt full of gadgets.
PSP was well worth the money to me, even with the cost of a 2 Gb memory stick and an expansion battery/controller for the longer journeys (oops, might have to get myself a batbelt, oh no, silly me, only need to plug that in if i need more than 7 hours gameplay, otherwise 2 hours is more than enough). Some wicked driving games on the PSP, and thats pretty much my forte, Need for speed underground, burnout legends, ridge racer, need for speed most wanted, toca touring cars, midnight club, all damned good racers and all on a 1.50. Not withstanding the others that pass a bit of time in between, Mercury (nice puzzler), Namco classics(when you fancy something old), Pinball (Jap game that you turn PSP end on to play, very nice), and densha train (its a train driving sim, go figure, and guess what, its actually quite fun and the way its done is brilliant). PSP has a nice big screen for watching films, though I found the converted video rips to be better than the UMD videos. All in all, with a big card, the PSP kicks the DS squarely in the nuts.

game on
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15. December 2005 @ 14:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey... I bet the guy up there really hasn't tried the ds. I'll have animal crossing and be addicted to it for about a year and a half the least. You can have your racing games and get tired within 1 month 2 months tops. Thats how quick non-nintendo things get old, I mean look at the X-box 360.... that shit's already old. Psp is quantity, Ds is quality... the only thing I agree with is that the DS looks like shit. I as a tendo fanboy am hoping that they realease a DS SP of some sort with a sleeker look than te original. And think about this, If psp didn't come with all those extra features and could only play games, and still cost 250$, I doubt it would be worth the money then. You can't possibly compare the addictive value of psp games to Ds games. DS games are actually games you'll want to play AT HOME, not just because there's nothing else to do in a plane flight.

NO!

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15. December 2005 @ 18:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I've played it, my roomate has a DS, he hasn't touched it in 8 months. We are all intitled to our opinion and which one we like better but it sounds like you just think the ds is better cause you can't afford a PSP.
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15. December 2005 @ 18:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
dang u wrote alot bbird ok like come to me 4 all ur problems rember i can help come to my thread its 1 of the most frequently used
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16. December 2005 @ 10:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
How can you say that the package of small gimmicks called the ds is made for quality. The ds was made for gimmick games that use some creative ideas but don't have much depth just to use the stylus.
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16. December 2005 @ 16:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
no... it's not innovative. Innovative for you would prolly be 4-d graphics and a money ejector. Nintendo did wonders with a lil stylus, Imagine wat they'll do w/ the rev's controller.

No... a blummin' mp3 player, video viewer, picture veiwer, camera, net browser, game player isn't gimmicky at all.. (sarcasm)

Gammicky and all, the psp still sawks arse.(My fanboy comment)

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16. December 2005 @ 20:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
quote:- If psp didn't come with all those extra features and could only play games, and still cost 250$, I doubt it would be worth the money then? unquote.

response to that bit alone is:- well, erm, it does come with all those extra features, if it didn't it would probably be the same price as a DS. All joking aside, Any machine that makes its owner happy is good, we all have our preferences, likes/dislikes, and games machines are always going to be a bone of contention. thing is, and this is important for me, the PSP is the best all round PORTABLE games machine around at the moment. portable being the operative word. XBOX 360 old? nope, disagree big time. I want one as soon as they sort the overheat issue. I want it for need for speed underground, and I don't get bored of race games. I have a PC for tactical and first person shooters (nostromo gamepad and a mouse make for better gameplay). the Xbox and the 360 are HOME machines, but for me they are also where the best race games are (PS2 was relegated after gotham 2 and the like came out on xbox). From a purely personal viewpoint, the portable games machines are there for when I am out and about, they fill time between the REAL games. The PSP actually lets me do more than just play games when I am away from homebase. Ipaq (and other PPC) users were raving 6 months ago that they could watch a film on their handhelds, yet now we have a machine with a better screen than a ppc and its able to do so much more, but face it, Yes you can watch films on a PSP, and listen to music, and play games, and even go online in some places while out and about. BUT, if you at home, surely you would rather watch a film on a huge HDTV plasma with surround sound, listen to music through a Good HiFi setup, and play games on the same high quality screen you are watching your films on with a machine that isn't reliant on batteries and processing power undreamed of 10 years ago. If money is the stopper and the PSP or DS is to be your only games machine, then having games with sufficient longevity to keep you entertained is infinitely more important than the short term gratification the casual 'away from base' gamer needs. in that situation, and that one alone, the machine with the games you want most is an obvious winner to you, regardless of whether it is a PSP, a DS, or even one of the old Gamegear/Lynx/Gameboy handhelds. There is every possibility when the PS3 comes out that it may technically hammer the XBOX 360, or it may not, But one thing is for sure, both microsofts offering and the PS3 would stomp the current handhelds into the ground. For now though, the PSP fits the all rounder portable bracket, the XBOX 360 is out now and even with the launch (and possibly least technically proficient) titles is already kicking ass leaving sony to play catchup. The DS looks to appeal to a niche market in the UK, much like the microsoft products do in Japan. If it had ONE game i thought was worth buying it for then I would already have one, but the PSP did it for me as soon as it was released. Big respect to Microsoft for their release schedule though. worldwide in less than 6 weeks is worth buying it for alone. Sony's 'release it in Japan, then 3 months later in the US and finally Europe when they can get around to it 6 months later' philosophy is an appalling state of affairs. Billy boy may have his faults, but the 360 launch was a milestone in games machine release history and one that both the other players should take on board.

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17. December 2005 @ 06:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Finally an intelligent argument.

X-box360 plans to out-wit sony by releasing Halo 3 and lowering it's price by the time ps3 comes out. So there might not be much "hammering" being done after all.

About the psp: In my opinion, I like games that I would also enjoy to play at home, and during a long plane flight. PSP is working hard to live up to it's name of "portable multimedia games machine". It's an excellent multimedia machine, but it's games are second rate and you would ONLY mostly find time time play them during a long flight.

NO!

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17. December 2005 @ 12:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
on ebay there are some really good offers. i just bought my psp today for £130, boxed new value pack. i thought it was worth it. it has 2.0 version on it. i will downgrade it to 1.5 wen i get it.

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17. December 2005 @ 13:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The psp may have some gimmicks, but the games are not the gimmicks themselves. I saw somebody playing this mario game that is just made of small mini games entirely to show off the stylus. At least the psp has games made to be quality.
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Dude, that's wario ware inc. And it rocks. It's entirely composed of 5 sceond minigames. And wario ware inc wasn't made just to show off the stylus. It was made for the gba b4 the ds. I'll say the DS's gimmicks are more fun than the psp's for a hardcore gamer like myself. I doubt you were to small to appreciate games like punch-out for the nes at your age. You'd say it was too gimmicky cus they put mike tyson in it or something. Well anyway, since when was gimmicky a bad thing? You ever had those pop rock lollipops? Since when were you dissapointed that they actually added in the pop rocks as a gimmick? Or vanilla coke, or pepsi twist or green apple jacks. Gimmicks improve life pal.

NO!

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Hey, this is my first post!

As an owner of both a Nintendo DS and Sony PSP, I thought I'd like to share my views on this little debate we have going. And, just to counter any sarcasm, it's called a job, not rich parents.

Okay, I didn't get either the DS nor the PSP when they both came out. In fact, they both rather disapointed me. I was expecting more from what the developers hyped: the DS seemed to lack in both its stylus performance and screen size (despite there being two of them) and the PSP came not only with a large pricetag, but with few titles I was interested in. Now granted, I know these may be personal views, but then again, I didn't promise anything but explaining my view. So, I decided to have some patience and play the wait game.

Then, sometime in November of 2004, Goldeneye: RogueAgent comes out on DS. And, being a N64 owner, this greatly excited me. I immediately went out, and bought both the game and system. And while it wasn't what I expected, I still enjoyed the game as a fps. Overtime, I would add Mario 64 DS, Kirby Canvas Curse, and Castlevania DS.

So, my initial reaction to the DS is this: I actually like the size. I have large hands, and I hated the GBA-SP. I bought the orignal GBA the day it came out, and enjoyed its broad size that fit comfortably, and the DS felt right at home. As far as weight, its no worse then holding a book one handed... I don't understand where that issue is coming from. But, for the most part, I usually play it in my lap anyway, or even on my knees when they're bent.

Now, it's first semester of my senior year in High school, when my friend walks in with his PSP. I watched him play it for a while, thought it was pretty cool. Then I noticed something odd: He was playing StarWars Battlefront II. Before it was in stores. I asked him about it, and he introduced me to the whole "PSP Homebrew" world. I was hooked, and just like the DS, I go Best-Buy after school that day to get a PSP and a 1GIG card.

As far as the PSP goes, I enjoy its games, and don't view its features as "gimicks" or even seperate features. I've put the PSP into its own category, kind of like those Media PCs that some people have with their TVs. The PSP is kind of a "portable-entertainment-system", not just a protable gameing console. And the homebrew helps fill in the gaps that Sony didn't build in. I currently bought GTA:LS, but lets just say, I have a lot more games than that :).

Comparing the two, I find the one just as entertaining as the other. No lie. But here's a little chart I've got for comparing the two:
GRAPHICS: PSP - mostly due to higher resolution.
INOVATION: DS - I've seen portable dvd players, mp3 players, but never a gaming company unlock the functionality of a stylus.
VERSATILTY: PSP - hands down. Homebrew, mp3, video...
GAMES: DS* - while this depends mostly on your personal likes and dislikes, I've found more companies like SEGA and KONAMI saving their better titles for the DS in my opinion.
BATTERY LIFE: DS - 10 hrs (vs 5 hrs max)

Overall, mfrink, I think you have good reasons for buying a PSP. I just thought I'd help in dispelling your confusion about which of the you may want. Hopefully, this will let you decide for yourself. I too have the SNES emulator, but I also have a UMD emulator, and a VIDEO ripper for the PSP. The UMD emulator lets me play ISO images of games on my PSP, and the VIDEO ripper lets me play either home DVDs or movie files on my PSP, and will automatically crop out the black bars.

If you want to read some more stuff you can do with your PSP, I go to http://www.psp-hacks.com to find the latest news and downloads.

Thanks for reading guys! Sorry for the length -_-'

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