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lapino
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20. December 2005 @ 08:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I've been trying to convert some AVIs to DVD using the guide on this site (tmpgenc). I use these settings for tmpgenc :

video type : non-interlace
aspect : 1:1
2 pass VBR / non-interlace / 9bits / highest quality

On my pc, the files play fine, but when I author a DVD using ifoedit and then play the disc on my standalone players (sony & xbox360) there is a very strange video stuttering (every 5 secs I get a kind of 'lag' and this repeats throughout the movie). Sound is ok though.

Any hint? What can I check?
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20. December 2005 @ 09:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi there,

Could it be cause you generate PAL video and you need NTSC ?

I use VSO DivXtoDVD to convert all my videos to VIDEO_TS.

I use quality media (Taiyo Yuden, Verbatim, Maxell Made In Japan)

I burn slow, x2.0 or x4.0 Max

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lapino
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20. December 2005 @ 12:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, the AVIs I've used are 25fps and I converted them to PAL. I need PAL btw, live in belgium.
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20. December 2005 @ 15:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
lapino: Your Problem is Caused from Burning at too high of a speed, Try burning the DVD at the Lowest speed Possible and you should Notice that the DVD plays Properly on your DVD Player....

Cheers

PS: Your TMPGEnc Method will produce better quality than the DivXtoDVD method but take Longer so if Quality is you Main Concern that Stick with it....

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lapino
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21. December 2005 @ 06:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I checked this but got the problem both when burning to a DVD+R and a DVD-RW. Also, I couldn't change the lowest speed lower than 2.4x on the DVDrw, result is the same.

Sure this is what I need to do. Just burned a regular DVD copy on the same DVD+R media at 8x and plays fine...
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21. December 2005 @ 10:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well it could be that the DVD Players doesn"t like Playback of DVD-RW Disks....If it works on a DVD-R then your Problem is Pretty much Solved....

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lapino
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21. December 2005 @ 22:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No it does not and I tried 2 dvd players. Mind, using the SAME media, making a copy of a bought DVD at 8x, movie plays fine. Burning a DVD-iso image to the same media at 8x, no problem. But converting a AVI to MPEG2, making the DVD using ifoedit/rejig and then burning the resulting movie to the disc > stuttering.

So I'm pretty much convinced that there is SOMETHING wrong with my conversion to mpeg2, but what?

edit: one more thing, my source .AVI is 24fps, but PAL is 25fps. Could this be a setting I'm missing?

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22. December 2005 @ 10:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If you are Converting 24fps NTSC Film to 25fps PAL then you will get Stuttering Playback depending on the encoder you used as Most encoders Suck at Frame Rate Conversions...Actually Most all encoders Suck at it accept for "Canopus Procoder" the only other way You could get a Good Conversion if you learned how to use "AVISynth" to Frameserve to TMPGEnc and use AVISynth to do the Conversion by useing the "AssumeFPS(25,True)" Command But AVISynth is Pretty Complicated.....

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lapino
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22. December 2005 @ 10:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Is there a way then to create a 24fps DVD instead of a 25fps (PAL) ?
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22. December 2005 @ 10:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It depends on were you Live and your Playback Hardware....

If you Live in Europe or South America or asia then you have to use the PAL Standard unless you have a TV set and a DVD Player that can display Both NTSC and PAL Video.....

If you Live in North America then you Have to use the NTSC Standard unless you Have Pal/NTSC Playback Hardware....

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22. December 2005 @ 11:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
this is not matter with the frame rate. if it did, every second you will feel it and the same happens on your pc.
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22. December 2005 @ 13:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If it was a Frame Rate Conversion problem you would see the Jittery Playback every Second OR Only when there is a Lot of High Motion on the Screen.....

If you want to Try doing the Frame Rate conversion with AVISynth all you have to do is First Install AVISynth and then open up "NotePad" and type in :

AVISource("C:\Video Files\My Movie.avi")
AssumeFPS(25,True)


And then save the Notepad File but with a ".avs" extention and then Load the "avs" file into TMPGEnc and encode like Normally to Mpeg-2 with PAL DVD Settings....

In the First Line of your Notepad/AVS file after were it says "AVISource("C:\ " You Type in the Patch and File name you want to encode and Make sure there are absolutly no spelling mistakes of it won"t work....

You can test the "AVS" file in "Virtual-Dub" to see if it Plays and if it does then you can encode it to PAL DVD...You can also use "Media Player Clasic" to Playback AVS Files.....

If you decide to try this and have Problems then Let me Know and I"ll try to help out....

Cheers

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lapino
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23. December 2005 @ 08:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Could you please explain how I can load a .AVS into TMPGEnc? I tried all the menu's but can't find it anywhere. The problem is definitely the framerate since the stutterig indeed happens every second (very briefly, but I notice it)
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23. December 2005 @ 13:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
When browsing files, select all file(*.*) and you should see.
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Minion
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23. December 2005 @ 14:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Select "All Files" or Just Drag and Drop the File into the TMPGEnc window....

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