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alntht
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17. March 2003 @ 07:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I just recently downloaded Gordian Knot (being an newbie I figured that was my best bet). I love it. Very simple to use.

My question is how to get better video qualit. I follow the directions precisely from the how-to article and the quality is acceptable, but I was wondering if there is any way to get better quality with other settings. I am playing around a little with it, but my free time and the time that it takes are not working out to some serious testing. If anyone has any suggestions that they have found out through trial and error, they would be very much appreciated. By the by, I'm using a 1 DVD to 1 CD ratio so I know that the quality will never be perfect :)
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19. March 2003 @ 08:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for all the help, but I think I finally got something to work better. I just use mp3 instead of AC3...much more room for the movie=better quality video on one disk.
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19. March 2003 @ 21:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hi there, i downloaded Gordian Knot aswell but when i finished encoding i found out that it only made an mp3 file that was 150 min. long. i was woundering if you could give me some help on my settings. thanx.
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22. March 2003 @ 16:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Lookie here:http://www.afterdawn.com/articles/archive/gordian_knot_ac3.cfm

Gordian Knot and Vidomi are highly recommended programs to make dvd2divx backups.

Vidomi:http://www.vidomi.com/
Vidomi guide:http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=59485

Shoey

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28. March 2003 @ 12:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i have a question concerning the video quality of Gordian knot. I have twice followed the guide and it still keeps giving me the same results! The start of the films are great but around 40mins into the film the resolution goes haywire..its blocky and looks terrible!? can anyone explain why?! I followed all the right steps and used the gordian Knot 0.27 with the Divx 5.02 Pro codec...two passes did a compressibility test for a one cd...for a 1hr 40 film...heres one of the logs bit of a newbie to all this but liked the first 40mins of the results so much quality in it! Ive used Vidomi and DVDX2 but none compare to Gordian...Please help if any one can, i really would like to know how to get better results and what im doing wrong with Gordian Knot!?!
thanks a lot!
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29/03/2003 18:58:58: Job "Test" started.

o Transcode AC3 -> MP3: C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano AC3 T01 2_0ch 256Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3
o DivX5-Single, Quality 20%: C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano_Credits.avs
o DivX5-First Pass: C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano.avs
o DivX5-Second Pass: C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano.avs
o Append Credits.
o Delete Intermediate Files.
End of Job 1 (Test).
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Gordian Knot 0.27.0.13
Encoding Job Data:

Type: EncD5_Both_CreditsSep
Number: 1
Name: Test
Platform: WinXP (5.1.2600).2

Files:
VirtualDubExe: C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\virtualdub\Virtualdub.exe
NandubExe: C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\nandub\Nandub.exe
AviFinal: C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano.avi
AviMovie: C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano_Movie.avi
AviCredits: C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano_Credits.avi
MovieFS: C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano.avs
CreditsFS: C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano_Credits.avs
Log : C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano.log
Stats: C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano.stats
Ecf : C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano.ecf

Options:
Quality/DRF: 20
CreditsStart: 60726
UseEcf: 1
CreditsIVTC: 0
CreditsAppend: 1
DeleteInterm.: 1
EnforceBitrate:0
AntiShit: 0

Calculator:
VideoSize: 619670 kbyte.
Audio1Size: 88234 kbyte.
Audio2Size: 0 kbyte.
Overhead: 8895 kbyte.
AviSize: 716800 kbyte (700 mbyte).
FilesSize: 0 kbyte.
TotalSize: 716800 kbyte (700 mbyte).
Interleaving: vbrmp3
Bitrate: 899 k(=1000)Bits/s
Frames: 141172
FPS: 25.000
Duration: 1:34:7
Quality: 0.223 bits/(pixel*frame).
CompCheck3: 0.000 bits/(pixel*frame).
CompCheck5: 0.343 bits/(pixel*frame).
DivX5BiDirect: 1
DivX5GMC: 1
DivX5QuartPel: 0
DivX5PsyVis: 1
Resolution: 480 x 336

Audio 1:
mode: ac3 -> mp3
sourceFile: C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano AC3 T01 2_0ch 256Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3
wavFile: C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano AC3 T01 2_0ch 256Kbps DELAY 0ms.wav
mp3File: C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano AC3 T01 2_0ch 256Kbps DELAY 0ms.mp3
azid: "-c normal"
lame: "-h --abr 128"
delay: 0
interval: 2
preload: 500
mux: 1
recalc: 1
deleteWav: 1

Audio 2:
none.


18:58:58: Started Transcoding Audio.

18:58:58: Using BeSweet to transcode C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano AC3 T01 2_0ch 256Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3
Commandline: C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\besweet.exe -core( -input "C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano AC3 T01 2_0ch 256Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3" -output "C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano AC3 T01 2_0ch 256Kbps DELAY 0ms.mp3" -logfile "C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano AC3 T01 2_0ch 256Kbps DELAY 0ms.log" ) -ota( -hybridgain ) -azid( -c normal ) -lame( -h --abr 128 ) -profile( Gordian Knot 0.27 )
19:09:59: Finished. Duration: 11 minutes, 1 second.

19:09:59: Audio Done.
19:09:59: MP3-File-Size is 80552 kb.
19:09:59: Audio 1, determined: 80552 kb
19:09:59: Audio 1, calc: 88234 kb
19:09:59: New Bitrate for Movie = 910 k(=1000)Bits/s

Adding this script to C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\virtualdub\VirtualDub.jobs:

// $job "DivX4 Single Pass"
// $input "C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano_Credits.avs"
// $output "C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano_Credits.avi"
// $state 0
// $start_time 0 0
// $end_time 0 0
// $script

VirtualDub.Open("C:\\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\\VIDEO_TS\\italiano_Credits.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.audio.SetSource(0);
VirtualDub.audio.SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.audio.SetInterleave(1,0,0,0,0);
VirtualDub.audio.SetClipMode(1,1);
VirtualDub.audio.SetConversion(0,0,0,0,0);
VirtualDub.audio.SetVolume();
VirtualDub.audio.SetCompression();
VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x78766964,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompData(308,"GAEAAACgDwDQBwAACgAAABQAAAAsAQAADAAAAAIAAAAFAAAAAQAAAMgAAAAAAAAAAAAAAB4AAABkAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAgAAAyAAAAAQAAAAAQAACamZmZmZnJP5qZmZmZmck/QAAAAAEAAACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIACAADgAQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAOA/AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABAAAAAQAAAAEAAAABAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABAAAAAAAAAAEAAAD/////BAAAAGVtcHR5AGM6XHRlc3QuZGl2eABlbXB0eS5tdgBt");
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("C:\\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\\VIDEO_TS\\italiano_Credits.avi");
VirtualDub.Close();

// $endjob
//
//--------------------------------------------------
// $done

19:09:59: Started DivX5-Single, Quality 20%: C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano_Credits.avs
20:37:42: Finished DivX5-Single, Quality 20%. Duration: 1 hour, 27 minutes, 42 seconds.
20:37:42: Assumed: Main Movie has 60726 Frames.
20:37:42: Assumed: Credits Part has 80446 Frames.
20:37:42: Credits Size = 65942Kb
20:37:42: New Bitrate for Movie = 1893 k(=1000)Bits/s

Adding this script to C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\virtualdub\VirtualDub.jobs:

// $job "DivX4 First Pass"
// $input "C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano.avs"
// $output "C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano_Movie.avi"
// $state 0
// $start_time 0 0
// $end_time 0 0
// $script

VirtualDub.Open("C:\\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\\VIDEO_TS\\italiano.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.audio.SetSource(0);
VirtualDub.audio.SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.audio.SetInterleave(1,0,0,0,0);
VirtualDub.audio.SetClipMode(1,1);
VirtualDub.audio.SetConversion(0,0,0,0,0);
VirtualDub.audio.SetVolume();
VirtualDub.audio.SetCompression();
VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x78766964,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompData(406,"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");
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("C:\\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\\VIDEO_TS\\italiano_Movie.avi");
VirtualDub.Close();

// $endjob
//
//--------------------------------------------------
// $done

20:37:42: Started DivX5-First Pass: C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano.avs
22:24:07: Finished DivX5-First Pass. Duration: 1 hour, 46 minutes, 24 seconds.
22:24:07: Trying to open Log-file.
22:24:11: Success: Log-file open.
22:24:11: Encoded: 60725 Frames.
22:24:11: Speed: 9.511 Frames per Second.

Adding this script to C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\virtualdub\VirtualDub.jobs:

// $job "DivX4 Second Pass"
// $input "C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano.avs"
// $output "C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano_Movie.avi"
// $state 0
// $start_time 0 0
// $end_time 0 0
// $script

VirtualDub.Open("C:\\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\\VIDEO_TS\\italiano.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.audio.SetSource(0);
VirtualDub.audio.SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.audio.SetInterleave(1,0,0,0,0);
VirtualDub.audio.SetClipMode(1,1);
VirtualDub.audio.SetConversion(0,0,0,0,0);
VirtualDub.audio.SetVolume();
VirtualDub.audio.SetCompression();
VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x78766964,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompData(406,"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");
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("C:\\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\\VIDEO_TS\\italiano_Movie.avi");
VirtualDub.Close();

// $endjob
//
//--------------------------------------------------
// $done

22:24:11: Started DivX5-Second Pass: C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano.avs
23:24:31: Finished DivX5-Second Pass. Duration: 1 hour, 0 minutes, 20 seconds.
23:24:31: Speed: 16.774 Frames per Second.

Adding this script to C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\nandub\VirtualDub.jobs:

// $job "DivX3 Append"
// $input "C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano_Movie.avi"
// $output "C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano.avi"
// $state 0
// $start_time 0 0
// $end_time 0 0
// $script

VirtualDub.Open("C:\\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\\VIDEO_TS\\italiano_Movie.avi",0,0);
VirtualDub.Append("C:\\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\\VIDEO_TS\\italiano_Credits.avi");
VirtualDub.audio.SetSource("C:\\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\\VIDEO_TS\\italiano AC3 T01 2_0ch 256Kbps DELAY 0ms.mp3");
VirtualDub.audio.SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.audio.SetInterleave(1,500,2,0,0);
VirtualDub.audio.SetClipMode(1,1);
VirtualDub.audio.SetConversion(0,0,0,0,0);
VirtualDub.audio.SetVolume();
VirtualDub.audio.SetCompression();
VirtualDub.audio2.SetSource(0);
VirtualDub.audio2.SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.audio2.SetInterleave(1,0,0,0,0);
VirtualDub.audio2.SetClipMode(1,1);
VirtualDub.audio2.SetConversion(0,0,0,0,0);
VirtualDub.audio2.SetVolume();
VirtualDub.audio2.SetCompression();
VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression();
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("C:\\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\\VIDEO_TS\\italiano.avi");
VirtualDub.Close();

// $endjob
//
//--------------------------------------------------
// $done

23:24:31: Started Appending Credits and Muxing Audio.: C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano_Movie.avi
23:27:40: Finished Appending Credits and Muxing Audio.. Duration: 3 minutes, 7 seconds.
23:27:40: Deleting Intermediate Files.

23:27:40: Done.
23:27:40: Movie = C:\ITALIANO_PARA_PRINCIPIANTES_SCN\VIDEO_TS\italiano.avi
Total Encoding Time: 4 hours, 28 minutes, 41 seconds.
29/03/2003 23:27:40: Job "Test" finished.
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