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PS2 game problems
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Mavrix
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7. January 2006 @ 19:23 |
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Ok, first,
unmodded, v5/6 PS2.
I noticed in the last couple months while playing battlefront2, I'd be hearing the cd constantly access, as it constantly loads data from the cd.. Wasn't _too_ loud, game ran fine, I let it be. (just figured it was getting old)
Now however, I've been playing path of neo all week, no problems, however starting yesterday I would hear these loud grinding sounds coming from it, i'd lose the music, and then eventually the game would freeze. I was waiting it out, and it would work. However the time between the freezes came shorter and shorter till I only had about 10 seconds of play time and 2 minutes of freezes.
(however only during gameplay, during the movie clips, it ran fine. However towards the end of the night, the audio was offset with the video from the video clips, it was odd because it was only when they talked fast, if someone slowed down, it caught back up)
Tried a DVD, and it worked fine. No noises, no stuttering, notta.
So this evening, I took it apart. (had to before for tray issues) Got some cotton swabs, some alcohol, cleaned the lens gently, dried the lens, put the case on, same problem.
So I reopened it, and inspected a little closer. When I tried to move the laser lens, it wouldn't glide on the right-side rail, it would skip over the notches, causing what I believe was the grinding-like sound I heard.
Took the assembly off, cleaned the teeth under the laser that catches in those grooves, cleaned the grooves with some alcohol, dried them, put it back on.
Now it seems worse, it will instantly recognize my PS2 games (so I know it's not a DRE issue) however it won't go past the inital loding screen. Battlefront 2 won't as well.
Put in a dvd while I type this, it's running fine.. at one part it was skipping very slightly, and I could swore i very briefly heard those gentle scraping sounds, but it's not doing it anymore.
Any ideas, and what to do to correct them? My guess is that the teeth are jumping the grooves on the slide rails, but it's not doing it on anything but my ps2 games..normal? Not to sure, done a lot of research but nothing seems to match exactly to this situation....
Again, doesn't appear to be DRE, DVD is playing fine, but during PS2 games loud grind-like noise and hangs on initial load of game. Internally, appears groove teeth are not catching. (not sure how catchy it is supposed to be, is the lens supposed to stay in a particular groove, and the rails control it's movement, or is it supposed to jump over the grooves, and the rails arn't lubed enough so it catches it?
Thanks guys, I try to be as detailed as possible.. Need anymore info lemme know.
-Mav
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7. January 2006 @ 19:31 |
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my best first guess is that when you cleaned the slider rails for the laser unit you didn't apply any lube back on them correct??? these rails need to be lubed with a quality grease that doesn't melt such as a silicone or lithium based. the reason your able to authenticate the disk (get a Playstation 2 splash screen) is this information is in the center of the disk where the laser is at when in its parked position, all it has to do is pop up and read the disk, not slide about.
the noise your hearing is most likely the laser unit adjusting rapidly trying to read data from the disk. adjusting the laser height (white ratcheting cog) you can often solve this issue. and lube the rails.
kc
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Mavrix
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7. January 2006 @ 19:37 |
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think you may be right, I'm looking at it closer now, and if I use my finger to turn the rail and move the laser, I can get it to move down, but if I try to move it up, it just glides over the notches...
hrm..have to see what I got in the way of lube..wd40 I think may be all..might have some more somewhere, would that work?
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7. January 2006 @ 19:40 |
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i would not use WD40 unless it was a last resort and then I'd spray it into a container and use a Q-tip to apply it, it's not gonna last all that long so you'll need to do it often or get the grease.....
hit radio shack for some silicon grease and redo your lube job after you remove the WD with alcohol.
kc
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Mavrix
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7. January 2006 @ 19:40 |
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then again though, wouldn't lube make it slide over the notches even worse? Thought I'm trying to get it to stick in the notches so the assembly can move
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7. January 2006 @ 19:54 |
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the rails I'm referring to are smooth and are only there to keep the laser in proper orientation, you must be talking about the drive gear and it shouldn't be slipping anyway and should have lubrication as well and if not this may be why you have a worn one that is no longer working.
kc
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Mavrix
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7. January 2006 @ 20:04 |
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yeah my apoligies for not being more clear, the rails directly on the right and left of the laser are still running good, I can move it up and down it without much problem.. I'm talking about the one further to the right, that has the little white tab with the two teeth, I'm assuming it's skipping over the notches, causing that sound, and it's inability to move away from the center of the disc.. I'm guessing it's not as easy as just lubing that to fix it. O.o
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7. January 2006 @ 20:09 |
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thats called a laser arm, you can get them on ebay last time i looked for about 5 bucks. they do wear a good with age and cause the problems your having.
kc
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Mavrix
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7. January 2006 @ 20:20 |
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ok, now I just need to confirm that's it.. would there be a reason it's not really doing that with all my media, and just the ps2 discs?
(suppose it could be since if I'm correct, it jumps all over while your playing, but watching a movie it doesn't?)
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7. January 2006 @ 21:57 |
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your right, when playing a DVD it starts in the center and slowly moves out, with the PS2 game it can jump back and forth quite often causing the play from the warn arm to allow jumping.
kc
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Mavrix
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8. January 2006 @ 19:57 |
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hmm.. get this.. I had given up last night, because I couldn't find any lubricant, and found pricings for those laser assemblys.. Today as I was showing a more electronically inclined friend, I noticed it was gripping better, so I plugged it in and my games are working fine, have been all afternoon, so it's had time to heat up..
I didn't mean to leave it out in the garage overnight, think perhaps the cold could have reshaped that plastic tab to grip better or something? :P
Taking bets on how long it lasts
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