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How to burn SimCity4 (SafeDisc2.8)??? (Big-time newbie)
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mcclenj
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26. March 2003 @ 14:33 |
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Okay, I've been through the different threads about burning protected cds, etc. I've followed the steps for using DiscJuggler, got through the creating an image part fine, but when I tried to burn the image, I'd get a program error and the program would shut down. Sooo, I saw someone say they burned SC4 with Alcohol. I followed the steps from the thread and successfully created the image/burned it onto a CD, but when I try to run things from the CD, like the autorun.exe or setup.exe, etc., it doesn't work. The computer acts busy, but eventually I get some kinda error and it doesn't work. My writer is an LG -CED 8080B. The CD icon and contents are identical to the original, but nothin works, so if anyone can help, I'm totally confused
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aldaco12
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26. March 2003 @ 23:27 |
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If tou read the many threads about protected Cds and Safedisc 2.8+ you should know that backup is strongly hardware dependent.
According to Elby's classification
http://elby.ch/english/products/clone_cd/writers/h.html#hitachi
your burner is classified as "less than 1-sheep burner" and uncapable to write RAW-DAO (but able to write RAW-SAO instead).
Therefore:
- probably Diskjuggler crashed because you selected RAW-DAO writing mode. If you did not delete your DJ image, you might try to burn it RAW-SAO instead.
- even if you manage to burn properly, since your burner is not capable to burn weak sectors without emulation (being 1-sheep) probably you need some type of emulation (Alcohol Datatype=Safedisc2 should have worked, though. Maybe you have to select Datatype=Safedisc2 and modifying that option choosing RAW-SAO mode?)
What I would try first, since your hardware is not very good, is to try installing the game running Alcohol on the system tray (with Safedisc emulation enabled).
Do this test and report here the results...
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 27. March 2003 @ 00:38
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Shoey
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27. March 2003 @ 00:06 |
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I recently put an LG GCE 8240B (1 sheep) burner to the test attempting to backup Safedisc 2.8.x (The Sims Unleashed).
Paddus DiscJuggler 4.x with emulation= failure
BlindWrite 4.25 (enhance weak sectors/write)with emulation(Hide cd-r/CloneCD= success!
Alcohol 120% with emulation= failure
CloneCD (amplify weak sectors/write), "hide cd-r" running in system tray= success!
There is a "trick" to get the "hide cd-r" enabled. I recommend we offer a "CloneCD Hide CD-R" patch to download. The file is very small in size and will help the nOObs.
CloneCD profile I used to backup The Sims Unleashed (Safedisc 2.8.x)
[CloneCD ReadPrefs]
ReadSubData=0
RegenerateData=0
ReadSubAudio=0
AbortOnReadError=0
FastErrorSkip=1
ReadSpeedData=0
ReadSpeedAudio=0
IntelligentBadSectorScan=0
SectorSkip=100
NoErrorReport=0
FirstSessionOnly=0
AudioQuality=0
[CloneCD WritePrefs]
DontRepairSubchannelData=0
AlwaysCloseLastSession=1
AmplifyWeak=1
WriteSpeed=0
1= checked
Hide cd-r enabled and backup played in LG GCE 8240B, game installs and plays like a charm!
Shoey
Asus K8N nVidia nForce3 Pro 250 GB, Athlon 64 3200+, Hitachi 80 gig SATA 150, Corsair XMS 1 gig PC4000, ATI Radeon Saphire 9600 Pro (256 DDR), Windows XP Pro (64 Bit),Lite-ON SOHD 167T,, Plextor PX-712SA,BenQ 1640.
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aldaco12
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27. March 2003 @ 00:46 |
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So the settings resemble the well known 'emulate weak sectors' option which is needed to bypass the "1-sheep" limitation with 'system tray emulation' needed because you do not have a 1-1 copy.
But then, why should Alcohol Datatype=Safedisc2 (=Bypass EFM error) + Safedisc SD Emulation (+'ignore media type') on system tray fail? Do you have an idea, Shoey?
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Shoey
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27. March 2003 @ 04:13 |
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aldaco12,
When I chose Safedisc 2 (datatype) in the write process with Bypass EFM error selected, green beer dialog box popped up and said error, your writer does'nt support this format (RAW DAO). I tried EVERY format and got the same error. I find green beer very buggy because I had NO problems using CloneCD burning RAO DAO mode. I find CloneCD to be the most effective for those who have "1 sheep" burners. Please keep in mind that a "1 sheep" burner MUST be able to read ATIP, or backup will most likely fail backing up Safedisc 2.8.x. Alcohol 120% works great for my Polaroid BurnMAX drive (2 sheep burner). I was also successful using CloneCD and in the write process, I ticked emulate. Again, the backup burned with my LG GCE 8240B played like a charm with "hide cd-r" enabled.
Shoey
Asus K8N nVidia nForce3 Pro 250 GB, Athlon 64 3200+, Hitachi 80 gig SATA 150, Corsair XMS 1 gig PC4000, ATI Radeon Saphire 9600 Pro (256 DDR), Windows XP Pro (64 Bit),Lite-ON SOHD 167T,, Plextor PX-712SA,BenQ 1640.
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mcclenj
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27. March 2003 @ 09:52 |
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Thanks, people. I'm gonna again download CloneCD and follow the steps. I'll try this hide cd-r business, but what are the steps in case I have trouble?
Josh
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mcclenj
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27. March 2003 @ 10:06 |
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Okay, downloaded CloneCD and I'm currently reading the image or whatever, but I couldn't find any menu to change the read preferences to what you said Shoey, and I surely don't know how to turn hide-cr on. Help?
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Shoey
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27. March 2003 @ 10:27 |
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Go herehttp://clone.cd/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=51
and download CloneCD 4x region killer. Follow the instructions carefully. Now use these CloneCD prefs for read/write image(s).
[CloneCD ReadPrefs]
ReadSubData=0
RegenerateData=0
ReadSubAudio=0
AbortOnReadError=0
FastErrorSkip=1
ReadSpeedData=0
ReadSpeedAudio=0
IntelligentBadSectorScan=0
SectorSkip=100
NoErrorReport=0
FirstSessionOnly=0
AudioQuality=0
[CloneCD WritePrefs]
DontRepairSubchannelData=0
AlwaysCloseLastSession=1
AmplifyWeak=1
WriteSpeed=0
1= Check
Shoey
Asus K8N nVidia nForce3 Pro 250 GB, Athlon 64 3200+, Hitachi 80 gig SATA 150, Corsair XMS 1 gig PC4000, ATI Radeon Saphire 9600 Pro (256 DDR), Windows XP Pro (64 Bit),Lite-ON SOHD 167T,, Plextor PX-712SA,BenQ 1640.
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mcclenj
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27. March 2003 @ 10:54 |
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Okay, now, I burned a copy with CloneCD like Shoey said, and I found the little Hide CD-R thing in the system tray, but I can't get it to turn on, it's sitting there gray and I can't select it. What's up with that?
Josh
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mcclenj
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27. March 2003 @ 11:04 |
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Okay, I read Hitman's thing about havin the US type of CloneCD, so I'm doing the region kill thing right now, then I be tryin.
Josh
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mcclenj
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27. March 2003 @ 11:39 |
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Okay, followed all the steps with CloneCD and turned Hide CDR on, but nothin, so I quit forever.
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aldaco12
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27. March 2003 @ 12:55 |
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Both discs of SimCity4 are Safedisc 2.80 protected.
Safedisc 2.8+ is strongly hardware dependent, sometimes CloneCD works well, sometimes not. I would give Alcohol (+emulation) a chance. Don't give up! (and try again with a couple of CD-RW...)
A little extract from http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/23699:Quote:
For Safedisc 2.8 and above, you must know that, so far, DiskJuggler is the only software that is able to read/write the pre-gap (provided you have a good CD-Writer) needed to have a working Safedisc 2.8+ backup. Other software (Alcohol 120%, CloneCD, BlindWrite) might create working backups but since they emulate the pre-gap during writing rather than phisically write the pre-gap , the backup CD might become useless if, for instance, you install an update patch on the game. More in general, keep in mind that the chance of making Safedisc 2.8+ working backups is strongly burner-dependent so you might either not be able to backup a SD 2.8+ CD at all. Or, maybe, you could be able to backup a the CD, but needing to use the burner rather than the reader to play it... it's a kind of 'hit and miss' game.
Knowing if your burner is at least a '2-sheep burner' also helps a lot.
If you have a '2-sheep burner' (see http://elby.ch/english/products/clone_cd/writers/a.html ) you might need to modify manually the default Datatype = Safedisc 2 setting, by UNCHECKING the 'Bypass EFM error' Alcohol checkbox. Read this article http://clone.cd/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=583 to learn more about this issue.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 27. March 2003 @ 13:03
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Shoey
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27. March 2003 @ 20:24 |
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mcclenj,
Did you amplify weak sectors in the write process?
Did you enable "hide cd-r" and play your backup in your burner?
Backup should play...
Shoey
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mcclenj
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28. March 2003 @ 11:38 |
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Yessir, under weak sectors i put amplify, though emulate was another option (maybe do that?), and i had Hide CDR on, with the cd in the writer, and so forth. No workey. It's okay, I'm already starting to get tired of SC4, so whatever, heh.
Josh
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