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Kodak Easyshare z740 access to pics without software
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17. January 2006 @ 08:42 |
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I realize I may find what I'm looking for at a more "camera centric" website, but I've come to rely on Afterdawn for my DVD needs so I thought I'd ask you guys for a bit of help with my new digital camera.
I just purchassed a Kodak Easyshare z740 Digital Camera.
Like most bundled software made by hardware manufacturers the Kodak software just plain sucks...
Also, it would just be very convient to be able to plug my camera into any USB port and grab my pictures...
So, why can I not do this with my z740?
I've seen other digital cameras and when you plug them in, usually you can see their memory as a HD in My Computer.
Not so with the z740...
So I read a bit and realized that it was possible that the Kodak software was preventing this. So, I plugged my camera in at work with no software installed.
Windows XP Pro recognized the camera but aparantly had no driver to install. Windows update had nothing either.
Neither did Kodak!!!
So, what is it? Is Kodak that lame? Is Kodak so hell bent on marketing it's overpriced photo items from its online photo uploading service that it is just going to refuse to let you have access to your pictures unless you install its memory hog, slow, cumbersome, pain-in-the-ass software?
Anyone out there have any clues where I can find a Windows XP driver that will enable me to see my camera as a HD?
I have faith! :D
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ddp
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17. January 2006 @ 12:44 |
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what showed up in windows explorer when the camera was connected to the computer??
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17. January 2006 @ 13:48 |
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What type of problem are you having with EasyShare software?
Select:
Cannot transfer pictures
Our latest version of EasyShare software should resolve this problem. Do the following to verify that you have the latest version of EasyShare software installed on the computer:
1. Start EasyShare software.
2. From the menu bar, select Help > About Kodak EasyShare software.
3. Check that you have one of the following versions of software installed on the computer:
* Version 5.1 or later for a Windows operating system
* Version 5.1 or later for a Macintosh operating system
4. If you do not have the correct version of software installed on the computer, visit the EasyShare software Web page and download the latest version of software. Follow the on-screen instructions.
go here for all the info
http://www.kodak.com/global/en/service/downloads/dln_ekn029416.jh...
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17. January 2006 @ 21:32 |
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When I plug the camera into my Windows xp Pro machine the hardware wizard finds the camera but cannot find the correct driver.
The software that comes with the camera is just real cumbersome. It makes managing files difficult when you are used to managing images with explorer and ACDsee or Paint Shop Pro or Thumbs Plus.
And basically I find it inconvient to have to install a bloated piece of software just to download some pics from my camera.
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18. January 2006 @ 07:57 |
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try this
The computer may be set up incorrectly. Do the following to resolve this problem:
1. Select Start > Settings > Control Panel > System.
2. Select the Hardware tab, and then click Device Manager.
3. Double-click Universal Serial Bus controllers.
4. Right-click USB Root Hub, and then select Properties.
5. Select the Power Management tab.
6. Clear the Allow the computer to turn off this device to save power checkbox, and then click OK.
7. Close all open windows.
8. Restart the computer.
If your computer still does not recognize the camera, visit our Interactive Troubleshooting Guide to help resolve this problem.
http://www.kodak.com/global/en/service/repair/troubleshooting/tro...
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18. January 2006 @ 12:48 |
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Ok, a correction.
My work computer is a Windows 2000 machine, (not XP)...
Regardless though, it should still be able to access my camera.
The problem is not that the computer does not recognize the camera. It does. The hardware wizard sees the new hardware device and names it correctly as a Kodak Easyshare z740 digital camera.
Where it fails is when it attempts to install a driver for this device.
I would think that no driver would be required or that Windows would have one at the very least on Windows update.
I went through the troublshooter and it just said to install the Easyshare software. I know I can do this and be able to get my pictures.
I do not want to do this. I want to access my pictures directly, using explorer, without a proprietary piece of software that requires a hefty download and a reboot!
We're talking about JPG files saved on a storage device connected to a computer through the USB port. Every other storage device I've ever plugged into my computer, from external harddrives to tiny keychain memory sticks is instantly recognized as a storage device on my computer. Any digital camera I've seen (not many since I've never owned one... but a few) were instantly recognized as a storage device in Explorer.
This is all I want. I do not want a download. I do not want a large program to have to install, particularly one as marketing driven as Easyshare.
I just want to plug my camera in and get my pictures.
Is this an impossibility?
Heck, I'd even accept that if it would just say so on the Kodak help pages. They seem to completely ignore this issue.
I've sent an email question to Kodak. We'll see what they say.
Totally frustrated.
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18. January 2006 @ 14:18 |
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quote
Ok, a correction.
My work computer is a Windows 2000 machine, (not XP)...
Regardless though, it should still be able to access my camera
win 2000 does not have the driver,in the inf folder.it has to be download with the software program..
i know cause thats what i had to do using 2000.with a kodak camera.
xp does have the driver.
cheers
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18. January 2006 @ 15:33 |
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Ooo, that's good to know...
I'll try in a friends XP computer and cross my fingers!
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23. January 2006 @ 21:19 |
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Not sure if this is the answer you are looking for. I have the same cam (my 2nd kodak). I found it a pain to transfer through the easyshare software as well.
I bought a disc reader (sandisk) that fits my sd card and transfer that way. Using xp home and win 2000 I could transfer the pics through explorer - however it was 'very' slow and I didn't want to chance losing my pics - I wouldn't recommend doing it through explorer.
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24. January 2006 @ 16:05 |
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An update...
I have now aquired an SD card so I will be testing a few things tonite.
But, a word about the Kodak Gallery and EasyShare software...
Hey, maybe I'm just a complainer! ;)
Anyway, the software is ok, I suppose, for as far as it goes. It does a miserable job of actually orginizing and indexing the pictures. Maybe after I spend some time with it I'll figure out how to tweak it to do what I want.
The one button album upload is great, though. The ability to edit and adjust albums locally and then upload them to an online host is a Godsend... Until, that is, I discover that hotlinking is not available... (unless I'm doing something wrong. I've got an open request for help with Kodak Gallery)
Anyway, here's a hotlinked photo. We'll just see if it works.
I'm guessing that it won't.
The point is that this software and this on-line gallery has TONS of potential... but completely falls on its face because of Kodaks relentless push for buying their prints of your photos!
I have no need for prints of my photos. I have a digital camera because I am a webmaster and I need digital photos.
I have to believe that the majority of digital camera users are the same. They want their photos to use online, not to print!
Ok, maybe many want prints, but still MANY want just to make them available online.
The way the gallery works now I will have to re-upload any picture that I wish to use anywhere else besides in the gallery. If this is their policy then fine. But I highly suggest to them that they add this funtionality. It would be incredibly appreciated.
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johnodd4
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7. February 2006 @ 19:44 |
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well im sorry to say all kodak cameras are rigged to the easyshare software i own two of them one is a 2.0 mega pixel and the other one is a 3.2 megapixel
just get a sd card reader it is cheaper then you do not have to have all of that crap on your computer from kocrap oops i mean kodak
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8. February 2006 @ 12:18 |
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An update:
After several emails with Kodak Gallery the nice person at the other end of the email finally told me that in order to actuall USE my pictures I needed to subscribe to a "premium" service that has a monthly fee. BAh!
So, they get a copy of your original picture at original resolution, but don't allow you to download it and they offer practically no service whatsoever for the priviledge of having access to my pictures.
I politely told the person that I would be deleting all of my photos and removing the software.
The good news is, if you uninstall Kodak Easyshare, and then reinstall it, there is an option to include the Picture downloading only. This will enable your XP machine (not sure about others) to see your camera as a hard drive letter. You can transfer pictures to and from the card without a problem.
When configured this way even Picasa can download your pictures from your camera...
But, don't get me started on Picasa!
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8. February 2006 @ 17:42 |
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That 'nice person' from kodak is full of crap - but you already knew this. Must be working on commission - but should be canned imo.
It's really too bad that they pull stunts like that. I really like the kodak quality and quickness - particularly where digital cams are concerned. That easyshare turns a lot of people off, and many people don't figure out a way around the software.
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9. February 2006 @ 18:57 |
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Here is the email... I always respect the privacy of the email, but seeing as this is a service email I think posting it is appropriate.
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Thank you for contacting the KODAK EASYSHARE Gallery Customer Service Team.
This option to link directly to your photos is not currently available on the KODAK EASYSHARE Gallery web site. We have forwarded your message to our product development team for future consideration. We will notify our registered members as new features and services become available.
You can download your own original images directly from your KODAK EASYSHARE Gallery account if you are a subscriber to our Gallery Premier service. The Gallery Premier service lets you have your own homepage on Gallery, so you can share photos with your friends and the world by posting them to your own URL. You also get access to your full-size original images. Go to "My Account" at URL and click "Subscription" to find out more.
If you do not have a Gallery Premier subscription or if you prefer to have the images stored on a CD, you also can purchase an Archive CD of your entire photo collection. The images will be arranged in folders corresponding to your album names, with all the photos saved as high-resolution JPEGs.
To purchase an Archive CD of your photo collection or to learn more about this product, follow this link:
If you know of some workaround, blubyu then I'd be very interested to hear... :D
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10. February 2006 @ 07:59 |
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Buy an SD disk reader. $7-25. Then you can transfer your pics directly to your computer without the easyshare software. It was mentioned a couple of times earlier in the thread. :)
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10. February 2006 @ 09:53 |
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That easyshare turns a lot of people off, and many people don't figure out a way around the software.
I was referring to this...
Yes, I've already un-installed the Kodak software and now I move my pictures from my camera to my hard drive (and back if I want) using explorer, and I didn't need to get a card reader. The camera will function as one.
I should note, though, that this disables the "favorites" function. A feature so "important" that Kodak gives it an entire "mode" on the camera. (turn the on off switch to the left instead of the right)
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10. February 2006 @ 11:40 |
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I take it then your problem is solved.
Not sure about the specific model you're using and the favourites feature. I simply didn't use it on the 2 cams that I've had. No biggy.
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grampie
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12. February 2006 @ 13:08 |
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I found the following FAQ on the EasyShare web site:
Question:
Now that I have upgraded to EasyShare software version 5.0, my connected device is no longer displayed as a drive letter in the My Computer window or in Windows Explorer. What is wrong, and how can I fix it?
Answer: [Answer last updated:02-08-06]
There is nothing wrong. In EasyShare software version 5.0, you no longer have access to the device in My Computer or Windows Explorer. Instead, you use the Sync and Transfer Manager (Tools > Sync and Transfer Manager) to manage and configure the devices you use with EasyShare software.
If you want to see the device as a drive letter in the My Computer window or in Windows Explorer, you must use Kodak camera connection software as stand-alone software. To do this, follow these steps:
1. Right-click the EasyShare software icon.
2. Select Shut Down EasyShare software.
3. Uninstall EasyShare software:
a. Select Start > Settings > Control Panel > Add / Remove Programs. For Windows XP operating systems, select Start > Control Panel > Add / Remove Programs.
b. Select Remove (or select Change, and then select Remove).
c. Follow the on-screen prompts to remove the software.
4. Install EasyShare software, and select a Custom Install to install only the camera connection software.
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grampie
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12. February 2006 @ 13:14 |
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The restrictive EasyShare seems to have another downside - I don't think there's a way to copy picture files back to the camera / memory card. E.g., I might want to take my memory card to a digital photo processor to get some high-quality large prints made of pictures I edit on the computer. A card reader/writer seems to be a necessity if you install this software.
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12. February 2006 @ 19:51 |
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I think the bottom line here is -
1. you can chose to use the easyshare software (in which you can transfer your pics to your computer through with the original oem version) or store on the kodak site (with retrictions with the updated software and possible extra costs)
2. buy a card reader $7-24 and transfer through ie to your hard drive
Either you choose to use the easyshare software or not - but using their software is not mandatory. I used to transfer directly through ie using win 2000, however, when transferring 140 pics of a wedding and it hanging up I decided I didn't want to chance losing them and sprung for a card reader. Pretty simple/cheap fix if you prefer not paying for/using the easyshare software.
I take a lot of pics and regularly transfer large #s of pics at a time.
If a person wants to take pics in for printing they would usually tranfer to their card or burn them to cd anyway - right? Again done with the card reader for putting them back onto sd.
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13. February 2006 @ 12:08 |
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I get it... get a card reader...
(You don't actually need one as there is a driver included that can be installed that will read your card (and even the camera's local memory) without the bloated Kodak EasyShare stand alone program. It shows your camera as a hard disk in explorer and you can view/download/upload/edit to your hearts desire.
The directions to do so were just posted by grampie.
I just find the direction that software providers are starting to go down to be quite disturbing.
It is very clear that the software that comes with my camera and which is billed as a major selling point for my camera and supposidly adds to the value (and cost) of my camera ammounts to nothing more than a thinly veiled marketing gimmick that if left unchecked could quite easily sway the masses into thinking that "this is the way things work".
Take Picasa, for example. Google, the KING of search engines has released a program called Picasa. It's a very good, easy to use image cataloging/orginizing program. It's free, like Gmail.
Unfortunantly, when you look at it a bit closer you realize that this is nothing more than a way to market photo printing as well as giving them a free photo index of all your pictures for google's own use. When asked to put in a simple thing like a heirichial folder view (which takes away from their need to FORCE you to lable/tag/describe your photos) they simply ignore their users or just say exactly what you guys are saying... "Hey, it's free."
This direction being taken by software manufacturers is a very dangerous thing. And when my HARDWARE becomes reliant on such software, thus removing my choice in the matter, well then I feel the need to speak up.
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sinner6
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15. March 2006 @ 16:21 |
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I got it to work on my computer a 2k machine with a DX6490
1) Uninstall Easyshare and all it components
2) Download the newest version of easyshare ( I got 5.2 )
3) When going to install select these options select custom and choose thusly:
Kodack camera connection software INSTALL
KODACK 6-1 Card Reader INSTALL
KODACK 8-1 Card Reader INSTALL
EasyShare NOT INSTALL
Software Updater NOT INSTALL
Printer Dock NOT INSTALL
4) Let the installation softwate install and reboot.
5) Press the "One Touch" button and it will become just another drive, I:\ in my case.
Hope that helps.
www.digital-misfits.com
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17. March 2006 @ 17:30 |
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This is all you have to do. Go into usb mode with your camera(just plug it in) then when windows asks to search for drivers, just select your cdrom drive and put in your cd. Then it will recognize it as a disk drive, works with my dx4770.
fugg it
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