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GQ (great quality) DVDrs
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21. January 2006 @ 21:40 |
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I have these DVDrs brand GQ(greatQuality). Now this media is known to be really really bad. They are usually made from CMCmag, Must, etc. Its the Frys electronics store brand. anyhow I had a 50pk of the
DVD-R and I ran DVD identifier on them and they coded out as:
** INFO : Disc = [DVD-R:MCC 02RG20 ]
now I know that MCC is really good media but I had really bad problems with them. about half of them were coasters. to give you an idea how bad they were. I have better luck with Memorex CMCmags.
Now a friend gave me another 50pk of them and these coded out as :
** INFO : Disc = [DVD-R:TYG02].
That is Taiyo Yuden 1st class media. I have a funny feeling that these are not the real deal. You can get a 50pk of those GQ's for about $8-10. I know that there is something fishy about this could it be that these discs are supposedly Fake discs or could my identifier programs lying to me (DVD Identifier, Nero). how can i tell if they are fake? If anyone has similar problems please post a reply. sorry about typing so much but it was a long story. Thanks to all that reply
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21. January 2006 @ 22:05 |
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21. January 2006 @ 22:08 |
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What you need to do is look at the innermost hub on the disc ... you know, the clear part. There you will find some tiny little numbers and letters ... do what you can do to read them and post what you find. Then we'll get Dr Ty on the case ... he'll be able to tell you if you scored or crapped out
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21. January 2006 @ 23:31 |
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i got a funny feeling they are FAKES...#1 hint: those GQs are made in taiwan, i have NEVER seen GQs made in japan, EVEr~! :)
#2 hint: if they are REAL Taiyo Yudens, they will be MADE IN JAPAN, no if's and or but's~ :)
#3 lastly, the inner hub reading...being TYG02s, you WILL find something along this line "GG000XXX" where XXX is the batch number of when they were made if they are genuine, if you do not see that coding, you got yourself some FAKES~ :)
docTY~
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
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21. January 2006 @ 23:40 |
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Sooo Doc ... are they made in Japan by Taiwanese slave labor? Or maybe made in Taiwan by Japanese scab labor ... or are they really made in Japan by Japanese workers ... or maybe made in Japan by midwestern college students workung on student visas in exchange for a few sips from the old opium pipe ...
Just a thought (the medication's working)
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21. January 2006 @ 23:48 |
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LOL catfreak, i choose not to comment on that aspect of dvd blank media production as i have NO IDEA~ :)
might be a mixture of the 3 aforementioned points? could very well be, in the actual MANUFACTURING process of Taiyo Yuden media...could VERY well be...
docTy~
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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22. January 2006 @ 07:39 |
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Ok this is what I found:
IFPI A361
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22. January 2006 @ 07:56 |
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Uh-Oh I just read some past forums and found out that these GQ's are garbage. and the ones i have are definately Fake. Im never buying GQ's again. no matter how cheap they are.
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22. January 2006 @ 07:58 |
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live and learn, sorry you had to find out the HARD way~ :(
docTY~
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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dilligaf9
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22. January 2006 @ 14:11 |
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I have a 25 pack of the GQ 8x DVD-R. They scanned as Sony and the inner hub code is DRM5G80001, it also has the bar code on the inner hub just like the Sonys I just picked up at Staples last week. I was told by one of the higher ups at Frys that these are the real thing but may be seconds, defects or over surplus from the suppliers. I also purchased GQ CD-R and they show up as Sony. It is probably a crap shoot and luck of the draw. I may never find them again. They have burned good with no coasters.
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22. January 2006 @ 20:52 |
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consider yourself VERY luck to find Sony coded media under the GQ brand...as you said, might never happen again... :)
Sony's own coded media is quite good, it's surprising to see at least ONE member getting "better" stuff than the norm when buying GQ or anything from Fry's Electronics for that matter~ :)
i have a bad taste with Fry's personally, bought a supposedly "new" cpu and mobo combo from them a few years back...the cpu was OEM (meaning 1 year warranty) and the mobo was a damn refurbished unit~! missing the clip that seats the heatsink/fan...so, i'm very weary about buying ANYTHING Fry's has for sale as their own "special combo" or sales...naturally, i returned my REFURBISHED crap to them and got my money back...the fact they advertised it as "NEW" and sold a refurbished/used product is VERY shady...shady enough that if enough people reported, could put a hurting on their sales...i filed my complaint already with the BBB~ :)
just be careful...in MY opinion, it's not worth the crap shoot to TRY to get the Sony media under the GQ brand, chances are you WILL NOT get them...luck of the draw for you dilligaf9 :P
docTY~
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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meltstorm
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23. January 2006 @ 09:45 |
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Hey Doc
fry's electronics store has some 30 pack - colored fuji MIJ's for 9.99 - regular price,i got me a pack to test, will run it tonight and let you know, but i am sure those are TY's.
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23. January 2006 @ 09:55 |
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@meltstorm
hi buddy, yeah, the MIJ Fuji 8x in either format are most likely Taiyo Yudens, i love those 30-pack colored ones..but, yes check them out when you have the chance and confirm for me that they are indeed STILL the TYs; you just never know nowadays with companies changing manufacturers and such, good luck :) next time i'm in the area, will check it out myself~ :)
docTY~
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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meltstorm
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23. January 2006 @ 17:35 |
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Doc,
i think they are TY's, the inner hub code reads as TG01162, what is your final diagnosis Doc? :)
Media Information
Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID YUDEN000T02
Media Product Revision Number 00h
Format Capacity Blank Disc
Free Blocks 405405696
Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.70GB)
Book Type DVD+R
Media Type DVD+R
Manufacturer Rated Speed 8.0x 11080KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 8.0x 11080KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 6.0x 8310KBps
Data area starting sector 30000h
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1
Complete Media Code
00000000 08 02 00 00 A1 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 05 3F .............&.?
00000010 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 59 55 44 45 4E 30 30 30 54 .......YUDEN000T
00000020 30 32 00 38 23 54 37 10 02 4E 72 02 8C 63 16 16 02.8#T7..Nr..c..
00000030 0B 0B 0A 0A 01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 00 00 00 00 ................
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23. January 2006 @ 17:44 |
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you got the REAL DEAL there buddy~ :) lookin good~ burn some TYs and call me in the morning~ :P
docTY~
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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behrad
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23. January 2006 @ 18:35 |
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After reading these posts I am so jelous of the prices you guys get over your neck of the woods!!!
We dont get good quality media at anywhere like these prices in Australia....
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23. January 2006 @ 20:24 |
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I got a 30pk of those Fujifilm colored discs DVD-Rs and they were:
** INFO : Drive = PLEXTOR DVDR PX-740A [FW 1.01]
** INFO : Write Capabilities = DVD+R DVD+R-DL DVD+RW
** INFO : Write Capabilities = DVD-R DVD-R-DL DVD-RW
** INFO : Disc = [DVD-R:FUJIFILM03]
** INFO : Reference Speed : 1x DVD = 1385 kBps
** INFO : An Writeable Disc Is Recommended For Accurate Results
** INFO : Write Speeds (Supported By This Drive On This Disc) Listed Below
** INFO : GET PERFORMANCE Write Speed Descriptor(s)
Descriptor #1 = 11080 kBps ( 8.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #2 = 5540 kBps ( 4.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #3 = 3324 kBps ( 2.40x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
** INFO : MODE SENSE Write Speed Descriptor(s) [Legacy Command]
** WARNING : MODE SENSE Is Obsolete And Not Always Properly Supported
Descriptor #1 = 11080 kBps ( 8.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #2 = 5540 kBps ( 4.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #3 = 3324 kBps ( 2.40x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
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23. January 2006 @ 21:32 |
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So I picked up a pack of Frys GQ's and in DVD Identifier they show up as DVD+R:SONY-D11-000 for Unique Disc Identifier and for media ID D11 and Manufactuar they show up as SONY. Does this mean that these are acually the good quality GQ's?
v7 w/ Crystal Chip 1.1, Boot Manager 1.8, and HD Loader v0.7c w/ 80 GB HD
v7 w/ DMS4 Pro and Toxic OS .41 w/ 200 GB HD
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24. January 2006 @ 02:24 |
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Most of the media that companies like GQ market are 'B' and 'C' grade stuff that manufacturers like Sony refuse to put their name on, but don't want to scrap
Stick with the name brand media - there's a reason that ultra cheap discs are ultra cheap ...
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24. January 2006 @ 18:06 |
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I've always used them and I've never had a problem but Hp DVD+R's and Memorex had big problems cuz CMC Magnetics is total garbage!
v7 w/ Crystal Chip 1.1, Boot Manager 1.8, and HD Loader v0.7c w/ 80 GB HD
v7 w/ DMS4 Pro and Toxic OS .41 w/ 200 GB HD
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24. January 2006 @ 18:22 |
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be careful with your HP media as well my friend, they ALSO use CMC MAGs as their manufacturer on SOME of their media~ :)
HP DVD-R 4.7GB CMC MAG. AE1 8x
HP DVD+R 4.7GB CMC MAG.E01 8x
HP DVD+R 4.7GB CMC MAG.F01 4x
HP DVD+R 4.7GB CMC MAG.R01 2.4x
HP DVD+R 4.7GB PHILIPS.C08 8x (philips media is CRAP)
HP DVD+R 4.7GB PHILIPS.C16 16x (crap at higher speeds)
HP DVD+RW 4.7GB CMC MAG.W01 2.4x
i think you catch my drift... HP is NOT a reliable brand to go by for good quality discs...
docTy~
edit, my bad, i read your reply a little too fast, i didn't notice until now that you put HP alongside Memorex for CMC MAG...hahahaha..but, there is ur lesson on HP media nevertheless~ :)
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 24. January 2006 @ 18:23
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BaconX
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24. January 2006 @ 22:03 |
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I traded my friend my HP's for his GQ's cuz he just burns movies so no problem!
v7 w/ Crystal Chip 1.1, Boot Manager 1.8, and HD Loader v0.7c w/ 80 GB HD
v7 w/ DMS4 Pro and Toxic OS .41 w/ 200 GB HD
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