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Changes to the rules and forum functions -- please read!
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20. August 2004 @ 16:00 |
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Still how does a Newbie know it sound's better coming from a mod and not another source i do not know.It does not matter if you are a mod or a newbie if you do not understand all the differences so coming from anyone can seem harsh to a newby.Its the way we put it and not really where it comes from to be honest.We all need to be as polite as possible in our answers to these sort of questions.Remember darthnip just becuase you are a mob it does not mean it will sound any less harsh to a new person to the site you persume to much in this case.darthnip all i mean by this is is does not really matter who it comes from because were all individuals it's the way we put ourselves across.Where i work i run two warehouses at night during the week which makes me top dog.But for someone to take a telling off from me may not always seem as harsh as from my supervisors below me its the way you put it across.The harsh way has you pointed out is not always the best way as you point out i agree.But as i say it does not matter who it comes from its the way you do it.
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20. August 2004 @ 16:29 |
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yes i agree with that to some extent. My point is simple, it is my (and the other mods and admins) job to enforce the rules, not the members. If i was a newbie and screwed up, i would much rather have 1 mod yell at me for it than 5 other people all at once. It makes no difference if you know what a mod is or not. it would still be easier on the newb, the members, and the forum in general if the mods were left to enforce the rules and not everyone trying to take it upon themselves to lynch some poor newbie that just didn't know any better. I hope that makes sense because i really dont see any way of making it any more clear.
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20. August 2004 @ 16:49 |
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As John179 stated, its all about how the post is handled. The few times I answered a rule breaking newbie, my answer was always stated as a suggestion that they edit their post and read the forum rules. In most cases I received a THANK YOU for pointing out the error. My next reply was that all newbies make mistakes and that those that correct that mistake are always welcomed back. What is so hard about that type of answer. I deal with customer relations at work every day. This is so much easier. It should be up to the Mods to get really hard line if necessary for those that don't take the first suggestions.
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20. August 2004 @ 16:50 |
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I totally agree the mods should be the one to enforce along with the admins.But it will not make a difference to the Newbie.All iam saying is other member can answer these sort of questions as good as everyone else.We all have the right to reply to a post we just have to be careful as to the manner we use.I must admitt i have done this myself and gone off the old rules.But i always tend to say sorry and thanks and even then people say your playing god.I tend to think as soon as someone registers they should be sent e mail copy of rules and what the differences mean between Newbie onwards which you read before you except the on receipt of membership which would be just below.
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20. August 2004 @ 17:10 |
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finally! i think we are finally on the same page now. I think anyone has the right to answer any question if they are able. just because your status might be newbie, that just means new to afterdawn, most people realize that. I also feel anyone with good intention should have the right to remind someone of the rules when they are being broken, thats great and it helps us out alot. What we do not want is a case where someone posts a question and 10 people reply with "you stupid bleep bleep retard bleep bleepity bleep bleep moron, read the bleeping rules maggot!!" and thats exactly what has been taking place. It does no one any good, it makes a newb run like hell never to return, and it makes aD look bad. So you see it's just easier to let the mods handle it if people are just being stupid, but by all means feel free to remind a user if they are breaking a rule. Just do it in a polite manner and the problem usually works itself out peacefully. If they fail to comply, or just get plain ugly about it, use the new report feature and it will be dealt with.
**on a side note, if you see something that needs attention, or are not sure, I welcome any PM's from users, especially if it concerns the good of aD.
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20. August 2004 @ 17:16 |
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darthnip congratulations on your perfect post i totally agree.I believe we were both firing from the same hip and you just proved it.Could not have put it better.
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gbjay1
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21. August 2004 @ 08:04 |
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Many months ago I warned about something of this nature taking place. I was wondering how long it would take for RI** and MP** and Big Brother's dark ages impending intimidation to reach Afterdawn? I guess that, now I know and so do all the rest of you!
It really is a shame what is happening to the Internet and the Web(s) which, started out being a universe of free uninhibited expression, experimentation and technological marvel. Most of us that seek out and join these special forums do so out of intellectual curiosity and the need to share what we know, learn and research with others. Now, in a similar fashion used by a man-monster many years ago (burning books in public and making it law banning anyone from seeking out and reading a book not sanctioned by his government), we have turned the corner allowing more and more intrusions and censorship on our lives. What has happened to the spirit of "FREEDOM"? (If you actually get to read this post, it'll be somewhat amazing)
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21. August 2004 @ 08:08 |
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gbjay1
Interesting post.
I think that the new rules are an attempt to loosen the restrictions that you speak of instead of tightening them. Believe me those thought have crossed my mind many times too.
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21. August 2004 @ 08:35 |
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Yes, Sophocles I do somewhat see your point. Diplomacy in the face of all issues can be a safe stance, however, in some cases bullies are only interested in seeing their wishes reflected in the fearful actions and reactions of those that they intend to intimidate.
The scientific adventure and daring of those of us that started on the Internet long before Prodigy or AOL were born, know that we experienced a realm of comunication with the possibility for research and development far past anything previously seen. And it seems that over the past few years there has been a latent desire by some to grasp control over cyberspace. The Internet is not under the jurisdiction of any particular country or entity or individual. Instead, it is a collective in the true sense and definition of the word. No country should have the right to ban what we do, say or how we get there on the Internet! If all of us simply sit back and allow our governments to implement laws in behalf of fat greedy and seedy corporations, then we are in fact allowing ourselves to be as controlled as those that previously allowed the mistake of Hitler using their government and laws to subjugate the very same people that the government and laws were meant to work for and protect.
It is time for everyone to start a cyberspace fight back campaign. After all, we did not ask MP** or RI** or Big Brother into our living-rooms. Likewise, they have no right in our Forums; P2P or otherwise!
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21. August 2004 @ 08:48 |
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gbjay1
I agree with what you say. By allowing corporate control over intellectual properties our governments have in effect restricted the learning process and therefore, prevented the continued improvement of those original ideas. Who can truly own an idea? To do so is to stifle the evolutionary process itself. Perhaps AD has realized a need for such changes, but even with that in mind there are still restrictions.
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23. August 2004 @ 19:52 |
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New rules... I read em' - Good Luck on enforcing them!
Seems like an awfully FINE line to me.
Karen(2003) -- I take exception to your 2nd comment above about "Backup-copying YOUR OWN DVDs" being illegal in the US. It IS NOT illegal -- just cause the movie companies say so, doesn't make it so!
The Judge's decision involving 321Studios ONLY says they cannot sell the software. It says or does NOTHING to make copying ONE's OWN DVDs illegal!
"Use your head -- post smart." -- Yeah Right!
Then there wouldn't ever BE any 'newbie bashing'!
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samintx
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23. August 2004 @ 22:32 |
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I thought Reuters reported last week the CA movie makers had lost the first round. Judge ruled you were allowed to make backups of movies. Thought I saw it on Yahoo news
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23. August 2004 @ 22:35 |
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US Court Rejects Movie, Music Makers' Piracy Claims
Thursday August 19, 3:52 pm ET
Does this mean 321 Studio is back in business along with other DVD rippers??????
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24. August 2004 @ 00:26 |
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I am glad to see that the mods are now in control of what is piracy and what is not. If I think its inappropriate I will ignore it or report it as an offensive post. There had been alot of bad blood over it to a point I quit posting here for a while. It was over someone saying they had downloaded a movie and needed to convert it. I politely told him to be sure to read the rules so that the wording of his post would be within them. I was flamed by someone else for trying to be sure that he didn't get flamed. I did not even bother pointing him to the guide(any other time I would have)I just left. A few days later I came back to check and the person that was so quick to defend him didn't help him just flamed me.
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24. August 2004 @ 05:06 |
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These new rules are a blessing, I've been helping newbies in Pm's about AVI to DVD questions, becuase if I'd answered the thread I'd know I'd get my ass ripped.
It has gotten out of control, all the newbie ripping.
I see some poor fellow getting caned by everyone all the time and I wonder why don't other people realise they were once in this person boots at some stage?
Now at least I can answer in the thread, instead of Pm'ing a new person what they can say in a thread, and giving them the answer to their question and telling them not to be disheartened and that aD is really a great place.
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24. August 2004 @ 12:36 |
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Damon
I used have the same problem in a number of areas such as how to record streaming music. People have been recording cassettes from FM radio for decades but streaming music all of a sudden became a piracy issue.
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gbjay1
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25. August 2004 @ 11:11 |
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Gee wiz! After being on this planet for a supposed X number of millions of years, you'd think we would've evolved intellectually enough that it was no longer necessary for us to continue with the pettiness of negative discrimination! If we aren't discriminating against someone because of their skin colour, sexual orientation, physical challenge, where they grew up, where they went to school, what neighborhood they live in, what clothing they wear or some other non-sensical thing, then for some odd reason, we pompously and arrogantly assume that we were born knowing what we learned from others and life.
When a person does not know how to do something and you do know how it should be done, it only makes sense that you would and should take the time to inform your fellow Human Being. In all actuallity, each of us has been a Newbie at some point or time, in everything we do or have done!
Keep in mind, no one is forced to make a Post or Reply-to-a-Post! Being courteous should not just be a an expectation!
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